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2019 NBA Draft Prep

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What direction should Hawks go with their lottery picks?

Sekou Doumbouya
19
18%
Coby White
4
4%
Jaxson Hayes
9
9%
Nassir Little
5
5%
Cam Reddish
35
34%
Bol Bol
14
14%
Brandon Clarke
10
10%
Trade the picks
7
7%
 
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2601 » by marco102 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:50 pm

Spud2nique wrote:I’m looking for that Squawk ignore button... woulda been much easier.. :nonono:


I'm confused now. I thought regardless of today's coin flip, the odds will be spread out evenly for the three teams, with the winners getting the extra ping pong ball.

If none, move into the top 4, the coin flip or whatever it is today, determines the draft order. So the second part of your statement (post drawing) is what I'm confused about, because those odds don't matter right?

I'm not being a butthole by the way. Just honestly confused now.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2602 » by Spud2nique » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 pm

marco102 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:I’m looking for that Squawk ignore button... woulda been much easier.. :nonono:


I'm confused now. I thought regardless of today's coin flip, the odds will be spread out evenly for the three teams, with the winners getting the extra ping pong ball.

If none, move into the top 4, the coin flip or whatever it is today, determines the draft order. So the second part of your statement (post drawing) is what I'm confused about, because those odds don't matter right?

I'm not being a butthole by the way. Just honestly confused now.



I don’t think this is the case, from my understanding, the coin flip today will set the teams in order of 7,8 and 9 but will not be determined if they move into the top 4 today, however when they determine the order of the three today, then each team will have appropriate odds based on their position.

So if the Mavs come up 6th today, they will have a 7.5% chance at the top pick and a 32% chance to slide into the top 4...

But say the Mavs get 8th today, that leaves them with 4.5% odds at #1 and a 20.3% chance at moving into the top 4.


That’s the best way I can explain it. Is there a simpler way, sure, but I don’t know how. :lol:
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2603 » by marco102 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:20 pm

Spud2nique wrote:
marco102 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:I’m looking for that Squawk ignore button... woulda been much easier.. :nonono:


I'm confused now. I thought regardless of today's coin flip, the odds will be spread out evenly for the three teams, with the winners getting the extra ping pong ball.

If none, move into the top 4, the coin flip or whatever it is today, determines the draft order. So the second part of your statement (post drawing) is what I'm confused about, because those odds don't matter right?

I'm not being a butthole by the way. Just honestly confused now.



I don’t think this is the case, from my understanding, the coin flip today will set the teams in order of 7,8 and 9 but will not be determined if they move into the top 4 today, however when they determine the order of the three today, then each team will have appropriate odds based on their position.

So if the Mavs come up 6th today, they will have a 7.5% chance at the top pick and a 32% chance to slide into the top 4...

But say the Mavs get 8th today, that leaves them with 4.5% odds at #1 and a 20.3% chance at moving into the top 4.


That’s the best way I can explain it. Is there a simpler way, sure, but I don’t know how. :lol:


Okay, see my understanding was this drawing is just to get the extra ping pong ball and they will share the odds of getting the number 1 pick and moving into the top 4. Once the lottery has occurred, then today's draft or coin flip determines their pick position outside of the lottery.

That's what happened last year anyway with the Hawks and Mavs. The Mavs won and then the Hawks won the lottery and moved up to three, but the Mavs moved down to the 5th pick after Sacremento jumped to two.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2604 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:21 pm

Spud2nique wrote:Good lookin out Jamal I couldn’t find the time. 3:30 eastern is lovely!


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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2605 » by kg01 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:28 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:Good lookin out Jamal I couldn’t find the time. 3:30 eastern is lovely!


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kg01 wrote:I'm sure he's getting prep'd right now ..

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Aye @spud, you feel bad about corrupting ol' Deacon @jamallo?

Nah, me neither. :)
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2606 » by Spud2nique » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:29 pm

marco102 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
marco102 wrote:
I'm confused now. I thought regardless of today's coin flip, the odds will be spread out evenly for the three teams, with the winners getting the extra ping pong ball.

If none, move into the top 4, the coin flip or whatever it is today, determines the draft order. So the second part of your statement (post drawing) is what I'm confused about, because those odds don't matter right?

I'm not being a butthole by the way. Just honestly confused now.



I don’t think this is the case, from my understanding, the coin flip today will set the teams in order of 7,8 and 9 but will not be determined if they move into the top 4 today, however when they determine the order of the three today, then each team will have appropriate odds based on their position.

So if the Mavs come up 6th today, they will have a 7.5% chance at the top pick and a 32% chance to slide into the top 4...

But say the Mavs get 8th today, that leaves them with 4.5% odds at #1 and a 20.3% chance at moving into the top 4.


That’s the best way I can explain it. Is there a simpler way, sure, but I don’t know how. :lol:


Okay, see my understanding was this drawing is just to get the extra ping pong ball and they will share the odds of getting the number 1 pick and moving into the top 4. Once the lottery has occurred, then today's draft or coin flip determines their pick position outside of the lottery.

That's what happened last year anyway with the Hawks and Mavs. The Mavs won and then the Hawks won the lottery and moved up to three, but the Mavs moved down to the 5th pick after Sacremento jumped to two.




Oh wait...you may be right. Stupid new system got me twisted! Damn u Adam Silver!
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2607 » by Spud2nique » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:31 pm

kg01 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:Good lookin out Jamal I couldn’t find the time. 3:30 eastern is lovely!


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Twas pushed back...for some reason

kg01 wrote:I'm sure he's getting prep'd right now ..

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Aye @spud, you feel bad about corrupting ol' Deacon @jamallo?

Nah, me neither. :)



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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2608 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:32 pm

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2609 » by Spud2nique » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:33 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:Good lookin out Jamal I couldn’t find the time. 3:30 eastern is lovely!


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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2610 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:37 pm

My alter ego good friend finally released the post-tourney mock draft from Uproxx.

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Brad Rowland wrote:As you might imagine, the evaluation process is far from over when players are simply done playing in fully sanctioned games and the upcoming NBA Draft Combine (in addition to individual workouts) will be key for a number of prospects. Still, this is a good time to check in on the landscape given that prospects are now shifting into full draft-prep mode, which brings us to an updated first-round mock draft.

5. Atlanta Hawks – De’Andre Hunter (F, Virginia)

Atlanta would be choosing between Hunter, Culver and (perhaps) Cam Reddish if they fall in the 4/5 range. Hunter’s showing in the Final Four certainly won’t hurt his prospect status. It is important to avoid overreacting to one-game samples but Hunter’s defensive profile is very encouraging and, if his recent shooting binge proves real, he has the look of a quality long-term starter in the NBA. That may not seem like the No. 5 overall pick but, in this class, the Hawks would be happy to get that kind of value.


T7. Atlanta Hawks (via Dallas) – Cameron Reddish (F, Duke)

There are plenty of whispers that the Hawks like Reddish and he would be an interesting fit. In this case, Atlanta would have missed out on Hunter, and as the saying goes, you can’t have too many wings. The Hawks could reach for a big man (Brandon Clarke?) but they can also afford to take an upside play on Reddish with the safety that accompanies Hunter in the top five.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2611 » by Spud2nique » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:04 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:My alter ego good friend finally released the post-tourney mock draft from Uproxx.

Read on Twitter


Brad Rowland wrote:As you might imagine, the evaluation process is far from over when players are simply done playing in fully sanctioned games and the upcoming NBA Draft Combine (in addition to individual workouts) will be key for a number of prospects. Still, this is a good time to check in on the landscape given that prospects are now shifting into full draft-prep mode, which brings us to an updated first-round mock draft.

5. Atlanta Hawks – De’Andre Hunter (F, Virginia)

Atlanta would be choosing between Hunter, Culver and (perhaps) Cam Reddish if they fall in the 4/5 range. Hunter’s showing in the Final Four certainly won’t hurt his prospect status. It is important to avoid overreacting to one-game samples but Hunter’s defensive profile is very encouraging and, if his recent shooting binge proves real, he has the look of a quality long-term starter in the NBA. That may not seem like the No. 5 overall pick but, in this class, the Hawks would be happy to get that kind of value.


T7. Atlanta Hawks (via Dallas) – Cameron Reddish (F, Duke)

There are plenty of whispers that the Hawks like Reddish and he would be an interesting fit. In this case, Atlanta would have missed out on Hunter, and as the saying goes, you can’t have too many wings. The Hawks could reach for a big man (Brandon Clarke?) but they can also afford to take an upside play on Reddish with the safety that accompanies Hunter in the top five.


Cam isn’t lasting to #7 imo. He’s gone by 5 and should be gone by 3.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2612 » by personanongrata » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:21 pm

Spud2nique wrote:
marco102 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:

I don’t think this is the case, from my understanding, the coin flip today will set the teams in order of 7,8 and 9 but will not be determined if they move into the top 4 today, however when they determine the order of the three today, then each team will have appropriate odds based on their position.

So if the Mavs come up 6th today, they will have a 7.5% chance at the top pick and a 32% chance to slide into the top 4...

But say the Mavs get 8th today, that leaves them with 4.5% odds at #1 and a 20.3% chance at moving into the top 4.


That’s the best way I can explain it. Is there a simpler way, sure, but I don’t know how. :lol:


Okay, see my understanding was this drawing is just to get the extra ping pong ball and they will share the odds of getting the number 1 pick and moving into the top 4. Once the lottery has occurred, then today's draft or coin flip determines their pick position outside of the lottery.

That's what happened last year anyway with the Hawks and Mavs. The Mavs won and then the Hawks won the lottery and moved up to three, but the Mavs moved down to the 5th pick after Sacremento jumped to two.




Oh wait...you may be right. Stupid new system got me twisted! Damn u Adam Silver!


You wanted to put me on ignore, yet once again I was right and you were wrong. If you are going to be continually wrong, at least don't be an arrogant butthole about it.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2613 » by Spud2nique » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:23 pm

personanongrata wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
marco102 wrote:
Okay, see my understanding was this drawing is just to get the extra ping pong ball and they will share the odds of getting the number 1 pick and moving into the top 4. Once the lottery has occurred, then today's draft or coin flip determines their pick position outside of the lottery.

That's what happened last year anyway with the Hawks and Mavs. The Mavs won and then the Hawks won the lottery and moved up to three, but the Mavs moved down to the 5th pick after Sacremento jumped to two.




Oh wait...you may be right. Stupid new system got me twisted! Damn u Adam Silver!


You wanted to put me on ignore, yet once again I was right and you were wrong. If you are going to be continually wrong, at least don't be an arrogant butthole about it.



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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2614 » by Spud2nique » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:42 pm

Here we go!!!
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2615 » by DirtybirdGA » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:11 pm

Meh.
Where the offseason has more buzz happens.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2616 » by personanongrata » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:30 pm

Picking ninth. Dang really hoping for seventh.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2617 » by CP War Hawks » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:13 am

I hope this isn't a precursor to the lotto... I'm all in on the Bol train, that's if he even lasts to 9/10.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2618 » by pacehawk » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:39 am

CP War Hawks wrote:I hope this isn't a precursor to the lotto... I'm all in on the Bol train, that's if he even lasts to 9/10.


I am on that Bol train with you!!!
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2619 » by Night Traen » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:03 am

Zion #1, Bol #9. Ultimate draft.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2620 » by marco102 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:07 pm

Here's my wish list after looking at highlights and reading about strengths and weaknesses.

Pick 1 - Take Zion and trade him to the highest bidder for a kings ransom or keep him.
Picks 2 - 3 - Trade to highest bidder.
Picks 4 - 8 - Select Cam or Culver
Picks 9 - 11 - Draft Kevin Porter Jr. He has two way potential, but is very raw. He also has number one option potential if he reaches his ceiling. I believe in the Hawks development program and I believe they can get the most potential out him.

The other option is to trade the 9th - 11th pick to Boston for the 14th and 20th pick and try to get Bol Bol and Kevin Porter Jr.
I was really low on Bol Bol, because of his defense. His offensive upside is tremendous. I believe his defense can be improved to where he won't be a liability on the perimeter and he can become a great shot blocker.

To me Cam is the best fit. Believe it or not his floor is pretty high for what we want (3&D wing with great vision), but I believe he has the potential to be a number 1 or 2 option on a championship team.

If we don't get Zion, we should shoot for the prospects with the most upside and good to great offensive and defensive upside.
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