Danny Darko wrote:tamaraw08 wrote:Danny Darko wrote:For those who point to Monty's lack of success do this research, please:
check out record and also players on the roster for each year. Monty actually had two good seasons where he had almost NO talent. Look for yourself. Meanwhile Lue was gifted a gelled unit with allstars and the best player in the league.
Not really a fan of this supposed two horse race, but I think I prefer Monty
Fair enough,
Monty's first year, his team won 46 games, that was great, he did it with CP3, David West (19pts,8rebs), Ariza and a healthy Emeka Okafor 10pts,10rebs/2 blocks for 74 games. They lost to the very tired Lakers in the first round, got swept by Dallas after.
The following year Monty loses CP3 and they win 21 games. Losing Paul was huge, but so did Thibs losing Rose for like 2 years, Rivers losing also Paul, Stevens loses Kyrie etc and their record wasn't that bad relatively speaking.
year 3, he gets the 19 yr old AD(yes, he might be still a bit raw) to play with Vazquez, Anderson, Gordon, they win 27 games.
That is not good IMO. 28TH defensive rating(3rd year). Luke Walton after one year, improved the Lakers from 30th to 12 best and even retained that ranking this season with major injuries and trade rumors chaos and yes with Lebron playing 55 games-His former team sucked in defense.
The following year, Monty's team won just 34 games with the 2nd year AD, Gordon, Tyreke Evans and also had defensive minded Jrue Holiday for 34 games, their Defensive ranking, still a freaking low 27th in the league.
I am not saying Monty is a bad coach, He had his share of problems, professional and both emotional and family. The question is, Is Monty really considered a big upgrade over Luke Walton?
like the big Tuna Bill Parcell said, YOU ARE WHAT YOUR RECORD SAY YOU ARE.
all good points, I totally didn't notice Paul on that roster
Also not trying to say Monty is a good coaching option, but I do wonder how Lue would have done with those teams.
It’s going to be impossible to say but for me itst very hard to ignore the fact that Lue’s team was still 5th best in ORTG even losing Kyrie for an injured Thomas. Now was it more because of Lebron? Or a combination of being in the weak East?
It also helped their cause that they were still top 10 in 3pt shooting even when they lost Kyrie.
Ty is no magician but it’s not like he made a ton if mistakes before. His former team not being good on defense is fair but it’s not like he had a Jrue Holiday at his disposal.
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