I just realized that literally everything Magic Johnson said was wrong.

Garbagelo · Post #21 » by **Garbagelo** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:58 pm

He recommended that the Knicks bring in Isiah Thomas in 2003.

That's all you need to know.

ProcessDoctor · Post #22 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:58 pm

Just another reminder that having talent /=/ ability to evaluate talent and/or manage assets.

VanWest82 · Post #23 » by **VanWest82** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:01 pm

That felt like a political attack ad

dhsilv2 · Post #24 » by **dhsilv2** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:34 pm

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:
Mk0 wrote:
Hullajelolt wrote:
Larry Bird and Jerry West are actually quite good, they are very high on that list too.

Bird has got to have the most accomplished resume in modern basketball. No one else has a Coach and Executive of the Year.

Edit: Maybe someone else has it but I could have sworn he was the sole owner of a COY and EOY

I know he is the sole owner of MVP, COY, and EOY. Not sure if you take MVP out of the equation though.

I don't really get how the EOY works but how has Pop never won it?

Torgeir Bryn · Post #25 » by **Torgeir Bryn** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:41 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:
Mk0 wrote:Bird has got to have the most accomplished resume in modern basketball. No one else has a Coach and Executive of the Year.

Edit: Maybe someone else has it but I could have sworn he was the sole owner of a COY and EOY

I know he is the sole owner of MVP, COY, and EOY. Not sure if you take MVP out of the equation though.

I don't really get how the EOY works but how has Pop never won it?

Because RC Buford is the GM. He has won it twice.

Lalouie · Post #26 » by **Lalouie** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:46 pm

If lal had 50 wins and in the playoffs, Magic wouldn't have "quit".

He sucked and did a sucky job. But,,,, if sucking isn't fun then I guess he was partially being honest

Mk0 · Post #27 » by **Mk0** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:46 pm

err lemme rephrase than.. Bird is the sole owner of MVP, FMVP, COY and EOY.

Right? whatever the case he has both the highest honors for a player and an executive.

Magic and Bird were great rivals as players. As executives... Bird wins by a mile.

God, just imagine what Larry could have done if Indy was a big market/spender.

Mk0 · Post #28 » by **Mk0** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:47 pm

Lalouie wrote:If lal had 50 wins and in the playoffs, Magic wouldn't have "quit"

Magic was stealth fired right? He said he hadn't told Jeanie but she had a twitter response ready in like seconds of his press conference.

dhsilv2 · Post #29 » by **dhsilv2** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:04 pm

Torgeir Bryn wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:I know he is the sole owner of MVP, COY, and EOY. Not sure if you take MVP out of the equation though.

I don't really get how the EOY works but how has Pop never won it?

Because RC Buford is the GM. He has won it twice.

But RC reports to pop who's the president which is where I get confused.

Edrees · Post #30 » by **Edrees** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:20 pm

You forgot the #1 biggest thing he was wrong about "DLO isn't a leader" 2 years later, DLO leads nets to a playoff win while lakers who sign FA's based on being "leaders" miss the playoffs

MrBigShot · Post #31 » by **MrBigShot** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:45 pm

Greatness as a player clearly doesn't seem to always translate over to other roles. As a player magic was a brilliant genius on the court. Off the court he's proved to be impatient and say lots of stuff that is ends up being either blatantly wrong, or simply really obvious.

MalonesElbows · Post #32 » by **MalonesElbows** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:52 pm

Lalouie wrote:If lal had 50 wins and in the playoffs, Magic wouldn't have "quit".

He sucked and did a sucky job. But,,,, it sucking isn't fun then I guess he was partially being honest

At least he realized early the job was too tough, and didn't completely kill the franchise (like IT did to the Knicks).

JimmyRustle · Post #33 » by **JimmyRustle** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:54 pm

What Magic did wrong was not shut his ass up. He made himself look like a fool each and every time he opened his mouth.

JimmyTheGreek · Post #34 » by **JimmyTheGreek** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:54 pm

XTraderXL wrote:
druggas wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:His new nickname should be Tragic Johnson.

Omg that is so original.

Simple nicknames are usually the best. As if Magic is so original

Magic was called Tragic Magic in the 1984 Finals.

Game 2
. Failed to get off a game winning attempt.
. Wedman hit the game winner in Magic’s face.

Game 4
. Turned the ball over to Parish at the end of the 4th quarter with the game tied.
. Missed 2 clutch free throws in OT, the game was tied with 35 seconds left.
. Bird hit the game winner in Magic’s face.

Game 7
. 2 turnovers to Dennis Johnson with about 1:30 and 1:00 left in the 4th quarter.

Watch on YouTube

Joshyjess · Post #35 » by **Joshyjess** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:55 pm

Not defending old Magic, but when he said this: ""Every team that had shooting, they got beat", wasn't he actually referring to trying to put together a shooting team to beat the Warriors? That every OTHER team besides the Warriors who were good shooting teams still got beat by the Warriors.

dhsilv2 · Post #36 » by **dhsilv2** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:56 pm

Joshyjess wrote:Not defending old Magic, but when he said this: ""Every team that had shooting, they got beat", wasn't he actually referring to trying to put together a shooting team to beat the Warriors? That every OTHER team besides the Warriors who were good shooting teams still got beat by the Warriors.

If he said you can't out shoot the warriors, that might be fair. But why bring up philly and really they are shooters?

6ixSideSniper · Post #37 » by **6ixSideSniper** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:09 am

Joshyjess wrote:Not defending old Magic, but when he said this: ""Every team that had shooting, they got beat", wasn't he actually referring to trying to put together a shooting team to beat the Warriors? That every OTHER team besides the Warriors who were good shooting teams still got beat by the Warriors.

Every team that didn’t have good shooting got beat by the Warriors too, so I wasn’t sure what Magic was trying to get at.

Trippinskarlo · Post #38 » by **Trippinskarlo** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:12 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:Just another reminder that having talent /=/ ability to evaluate talent and/or manage assets.

Usually the correlation is actually inverse.

Joshyjess · Post #39 » by **Joshyjess** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:12 am

6ixSideSniper wrote:
Joshyjess wrote:Not defending old Magic, but when he said this: ""Every team that had shooting, they got beat", wasn't he actually referring to trying to put together a shooting team to beat the Warriors? That every OTHER team besides the Warriors who were good shooting teams still got beat by the Warriors.

Every team that didn’t have good shooting got beat by the Warriors too, so I wasn’t sure what Magic was trying to get at.

My guess is that he was saying trying to out-shoot the Warriors isn't going to work, so instead we are going to try something different. Of course what he meant by "different" was a complete and utter disaster, but at least he did try something different. :lol:

Usual Suspects · Post #40 » by **Usual Suspects** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:27 am

Mk0 wrote:
Hullajelolt wrote:
picc wrote:Seems like just in general, the higher you are on the GOAT list the less anyone should listen to you on how to run a team.

Larry Bird and Jerry West are actually quite good, they are very high on that list too.

Bird has got to have the most accomplished resume in modern basketball. No one else has a Coach and Executive of the Year.

Edit: Maybe someone else has it but I could have sworn he was the sole owner of a COY and EOY

Pat Riley. But I get your point