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Post#101 » by kblo247 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:28 pm

indilakeshow wrote:This isn’t even a topic anymore. Rob Pelinka is the beginning and end of the Laker front office. I mean I guess Kurt Rambis got in there somehow, but with Rob leading the search, the signal is that Rob is “our guy.” Any new POBO will have to work with him. No one in their right mind would accept such a job so it’s Rob’s now.

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Kobe was his client for years. Pelinka is the godfather to Kobe's daughter. JEanie consulted Kobe about firing Mitch and Jim. Kobe called LeBron after Magic recruited him. Kobe has proven that he fully delves into what he does unlike Magic. Detail is grind work, his book is grind work, Mamba Academy is grind work, and his short film was grind work. Kobe would grind as PResident and scout overseas as well since he grew up overseas and has an international following. Guys also in this generation respect Kobe more than they do MAgic because they saw him play and win or played versus him.

Kobe is actually the one guy who could walk in as President and be okay with the fanbase.
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Post#102 » by Michael Lucky » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:48 pm

The hate for Pelinka in here is a bit over the top. Im tired of the Magic can do no wrong with the media. The guy didnt spend the time needed to be the president of basketball ops and is clesrly a terrible talent evaluator. He shouldnt have been in that position as such. Trying to get pissed at Pelinka because Magic quit is hardly going to make me dislike Pelinka at this point. Honestly i dont know how good Pelinka would be as a GM since we already know Magic told Lebron he would go and hire that horrible ensemble last summer. Mind you, i'd take a veteran and proven gm with a good track record over Pelinka but im hardly panicking at him being in charge. I was far more worried when Magic was due to his lack of patience. As far as othe executives not liking Pelinka, i am sure some of it is true, but i cant help but wonder if Magic's group is overblowing it with their friendly media sources.

And no not everyone in an executive position or coaching one needs to be an exlaker. That stuff needs to stop or we'll forever be stuck in the past.
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Post#103 » by gts1 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:06 am

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indilakeshow wrote:This isn’t even a topic anymore. Rob Pelinka is the beginning and end of the Laker front office. I mean I guess Kurt Rambis got in there somehow, but with Rob leading the search, the signal is that Rob is “our guy.” Any new POBO will have to work with him. No one in their right mind would accept such a job so it’s Rob’s now.

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Kobe was his client for years. Pelinka is the godfather to Kobe's daughter. JEanie consulted Kobe about firing Mitch and Jim. Kobe called LeBron after Magic recruited him. Kobe has proven that he fully delves into what he does unlike Magic. Detail is grind work, his book is grind work, Mamba Academy is grind work, and his short film was grind work. Kobe would grind as PResident and scout overseas as well since he grew up overseas and has an international following. Guys also in this generation respect Kobe more than they do MAgic because they saw him play and win or played versus him.

Kobe is actually the one guy who could walk in as President and be okay with the fanbase.


I really think folks looking for Kobe to come in need to take a deep breath. He's no different than Magic.. He has a ton of outside business interest wit millions upon millions invested in that he has worked hard at putting into motion.. No way in heck he puts those aside to become a full time Laker president and secondly he has zero experience at the job, he'd probably be less patient than Magic when things didn't go his way and there's a real chance he'd be even less liked by the other teams than Magic would. A lot of GMs around the league only knew Magic by reputation from his glory days but most teams in the league have fresh memories of Kobe as the player he was and his take no prisoners attitude

Sad fact is it's looking more and more like Pelinka is our front office for now... I totally expect the Lakers board to hold a vote of no confidence in Jeanie in the coming weeks or for her to step down.. this can't continue and the other owners are going to have to deal with it hopefully sooner than later
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Post#104 » by Doug_12 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:43 pm

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tamaraw08 wrote:I can't believe some fans here mention Hinkie as a replacement.
The guy ABUSED the lottery system by shameless tanking for like 5 straight years, finally got 2 great picks out of it.
I know.. I don't get it either, never understood how a plan that took no imagination gets so much credit for doing nothing. He was head of one franchise the 76ers and built a losing roster (on purpose) and lost games.. He's not some genius at team building from what we have seen. You lose enough over a period of years you're going to amass a pile of lottery picks, that's a no brainer, with those picks you pick the best guy available which is also a no brainer. He's just a numbers guy not a manager, that's why he's in Denver now crunching numbers for the Broncos

Well, we have been losing since 2014, so if anyone can do what Hinkie did in 5 years then I expect us one more playoff miss, and then winning 52 games in 2021 w/ two stars on rookie deals, a few future lottery picks and a free max slot in the offseason…
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Re: Search for the next president 

Post#105 » by Pythagoras » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:02 pm

Michael Lucky wrote:The hate for Pelinka in here is a bit over the top. Im tired of the Magic can do no wrong with the media. The guy didnt spend the time needed to be the president of basketball ops and is clesrly a terrible talent evaluator. He shouldnt have been in that position as such. Trying to get pissed at Pelinka because Magic quit is hardly going to make me dislike Pelinka at this point. Honestly i dont know how good Pelinka would be as a GM since we already know Magic told Lebron he would go and hire that horrible ensemble last summer. Mind you, i'd take a veteran and proven gm with a good track record over Pelinka but im hardly panicking at him being in charge. I was far more worried when Magic was due to his lack of patience. As far as othe executives not liking Pelinka, i am sure some of it is true, but i cant help but wonder if Magic's group is overblowing it with their friendly media sources.

And no not everyone in an executive position or coaching one needs to be an exlaker. That stuff needs to stop or we'll forever be stuck in the past.


For me, I definitely put more of the blame for our failures on Magic than Pelinka. The crappy roster construction had Magic’s fingerprints all over it. My concern is that we’re at such a critical juncture and Jeannie is essentially handing the reigns to our cap guy. Now, if he actually takes input from our talented scouting department, and he hires an experienced basketball mind as his GM, he has a chance to grow into and be successful in his new role.

But hiring Lue is bad way to kick off his campaign.
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Re: Search for the next president 

Post#106 » by myersia » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:15 pm

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Michael Lucky wrote:The hate for Pelinka in here is a bit over the top. Im tired of the Magic can do no wrong with the media. The guy didnt spend the time needed to be the president of basketball ops and is clesrly a terrible talent evaluator. He shouldnt have been in that position as such. Trying to get pissed at Pelinka because Magic quit is hardly going to make me dislike Pelinka at this point. Honestly i dont know how good Pelinka would be as a GM since we already know Magic told Lebron he would go and hire that horrible ensemble last summer. Mind you, i'd take a veteran and proven gm with a good track record over Pelinka but im hardly panicking at him being in charge. I was far more worried when Magic was due to his lack of patience. As far as othe executives not liking Pelinka, i am sure some of it is true, but i cant help but wonder if Magic's group is overblowing it with their friendly media sources.

And no not everyone in an executive position or coaching one needs to be an exlaker. That stuff needs to stop or we'll forever be stuck in the past.


For me, I definitely put more of the blame for our failures on Magic than Pelinka. The crappy roster construction had Magic’s fingerprints all over it. My concern is that we’re at such a critical juncture and Jeannie is essentially handing the reigns to our cap guy. Now, if he actually takes input from our talented scouting department, and he hires an experienced basketball mind as his GM, he has a chance to grow into and be successful in his new role.

But hiring Lue is bad way to kick off his campaign.


I think Michals Lucky and Pythagoras are spot on. Well said fellas


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Post#107 » by Showtime:Part2 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:26 pm

Are we even hiring another president or is it rob? Also is the plan to hire a president before a coach or no?
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Re: Search for the next president 

Post#108 » by Showtime:Part2 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:03 pm

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Michael Lucky wrote:The hate for Pelinka in here is a bit over the top. Im tired of the Magic can do no wrong with the media. The guy didnt spend the time needed to be the president of basketball ops and is clesrly a terrible talent evaluator. He shouldnt have been in that position as such. Trying to get pissed at Pelinka because Magic quit is hardly going to make me dislike Pelinka at this point. Honestly i dont know how good Pelinka would be as a GM since we already know Magic told Lebron he would go and hire that horrible ensemble last summer. Mind you, i'd take a veteran and proven gm with a good track record over Pelinka but im hardly panicking at him being in charge. I was far more worried when Magic was due to his lack of patience. As far as othe executives not liking Pelinka, i am sure some of it is true, but i cant help but wonder if Magic's group is overblowing it with their friendly media sources.

And no not everyone in an executive position or coaching one needs to be an exlaker. That stuff needs to stop or we'll forever be stuck in the past.


For me, I definitely put more of the blame for our failures on Magic than Pelinka. The crappy roster construction had Magic’s fingerprints all over it. My concern is that we’re at such a critical juncture and Jeannie is essentially handing the reigns to our cap guy. Now, if he actually takes input from our talented scouting department, and he hires an experienced basketball mind as his GM, he has a chance to grow into and be successful in his new role.

But hiring Lue is bad way to kick off his campaign.


This x100
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Prince + filler for Kobe Bryant

To be honest the way Prince has played and with Kobes injury/age/mileage Im not sure I would do that deal either. Still Prince is more important and he wins the head to head battles with Kobe.
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Post#109 » by LakerClipperFan » Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:40 pm

Not only does Bryant lack experience, he expressed his lack of desire to be involved with LAL in an official capacity.

Right now our focus is on building a roster around #LABron as well as a front office that is in sync with our blockbuster superstar.

gts1 wrote:I really think folks looking for Kobe to come in need to take a deep breath. He's no different than Magic.. He has a ton of outside business interest wit millions upon millions invested in that he has worked hard at putting into motion.. No way in heck he puts those aside to become a full time Laker president and secondly he has zero experience at the job, he'd probably be less patient than Magic when things didn't go his way and there's a real chance he'd be even less liked by the other teams than Magic would. A lot of GMs around the league only knew Magic by reputation from his glory days but most teams in the league have fresh memories of Kobe as the player he was and his take no prisoners attitude

Sad fact is it's looking more and more like Pelinka is our front office for now... I totally expect the Lakers board to hold a vote of no confidence in Jeanie in the coming weeks or for her to step down.. this can't continue and the other owners are going to have to deal with it hopefully sooner than later
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Post#110 » by Cafu » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:17 pm

I think Kobe would be a fool to do it right now. He has too many business to take care of, a series of books to be finished etc.. and his friend is still the GM so he won’t come here to boot Pelinka out.
We should safely remove Kobe as a candidate.

Pelinka remains as the lone GM or promoting to PBO?
I have mix feelings about this.
I hate it that just because the others “may” or may not hate him than we have to fire him. Then why hired him in the 1st place? Heck we could always go to the full dark side with the Klutch and Lebron lol

On the other hand I am skeptical about Pelinka’s ability.
If there are better options like Myers or top notch GM available, Jennie should no doubt go for it.
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Re: Search for the next president 

Post#111 » by indilakeshow » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:55 pm

This must be the denial phase. Kobe is NOT riding in on a white horse to save the team. This is team belongs to Rob Pelinka and/or Lebron James. The coaching hire will reveal a lot about who is running the team. If they hire Lue, Lebron is the new POBO. If they go in any other direction, Pelinka has majority control.
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Post#112 » by Michael Lucky » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:02 pm

Jeanie would hand the job to Kobe if he asked for it sadly. She has no idea what to do or how to search for a competent person to lead the organization.
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Post#113 » by Slava » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:40 pm

I wonder if they aren't hiring a proper President or GM because it's what LeBron wants. LeBron never really felt comfortable in a power structure he cannot control, he put up with Riley in Miami until he could win and immediately went back to the dysfunction in Cleveland.

Him and his buddy Rich Paul cannot operate in a traditional power structure.
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Post#114 » by Spens1 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:29 pm

Jerry West or Bob Myers if we could lure either over here.
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Post#115 » by Desiderium » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:34 pm

The fact that we're hiring a coach before a president speaks volumes how much of a dysfunction the Lakers front office is. Why not let the new president choose his own damn coach...
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Post#116 » by dockingsched » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:00 am

Desiderium wrote:The fact that we're hiring a coach before a president speaks volumes how much of a dysfunction the Lakers front office is. Why not let the new president choose his own damn coach...

I don’t think there’s a single piece of evidence to suggest the team intends to hire someone for a position higher than Rob.
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Post#117 » by Pythagoras » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:37 am

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Desiderium wrote:The fact that we're hiring a coach before a president speaks volumes how much of a dysfunction the Lakers front office is. Why not let the new president choose his own damn coach...

I don’t think there’s a single piece of evidence to suggest the team intends to hire someone for a position higher than Rob.


Yeah, I’ve pretty much resigned myself to Rob being the new POBO. Hopefully he promotes Ryan West to be the new GM.
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Post#119 » by stan francisco » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:32 am

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Michael Lucky wrote:The hate for Pelinka in here is a bit over the top. Im tired of the Magic can do no wrong with the media. The guy didnt spend the time needed to be the president of basketball ops and is clesrly a terrible talent evaluator. He shouldnt have been in that position as such. Trying to get pissed at Pelinka because Magic quit is hardly going to make me dislike Pelinka at this point. Honestly i dont know how good Pelinka would be as a GM since we already know Magic told Lebron he would go and hire that horrible ensemble last summer. Mind you, i'd take a veteran and proven gm with a good track record over Pelinka but im hardly panicking at him being in charge. I was far more worried when Magic was due to his lack of patience. As far as othe executives not liking Pelinka, i am sure some of it is true, but i cant help but wonder if Magic's group is overblowing it with their friendly media sources.

And no not everyone in an executive position or coaching one needs to be an exlaker. That stuff needs to stop or we'll forever be stuck in the past.


For me, I definitely put more of the blame for our failures on Magic than Pelinka. The crappy roster construction had Magic’s fingerprints all over it. My concern is that we’re at such a critical juncture and Jeannie is essentially handing the reigns to our cap guy. Now, if he actually takes input from our talented scouting department, and he hires an experienced basketball mind as his GM, he has a chance to grow into and be successful in his new role.

But hiring Lue is bad way to kick off his campaign.


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Re: Search(?) for the next president (or not?) 

Post#120 » by Kilroy » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:13 pm

I will say this about Rambis... I don't see him as a guy that's likely to be pushed around by LeBron/Klutch...

He was never the sharpest/most vocal guy in the room, but he was in the room with Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Scott, and with Phil, Kobe, Shaq... And he's always sort of remained Kurt Rambis through all of it... You never really felt like he wasn't doing what he though was right...
He's always seemed content to take a back seat, but he doesn't really seem to bend a whole lot to other people's will...

And Phil really seemed to like him...

I say all that because I feel like Rambis becoming president is almost a fore-gone conclusion... Not because I think he's the ideal candidate for the job... But I'd rather he be in charge than Pelinka.
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