2019 NBA draft

[sully00]

in the ranges you're possibly drafting, these are the guys I'd target;

9th

Brandon Clarke
Sekou Doumbouya
Coby White

What is your take on White? It feels like I have seen him look like a future All Star and then watched games and can't remember if he even played. Is he an NBA PG or one of those Tar Heel PG's that are doing it because somebody has to and he can dribble with both hands?

[SmartWentCrazy]

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[vct33]

Let's say we end up with four 1st round picks. I'll say 9, 13, 19, 22 for the purpose of this question. If we can't actually strike a deal for a player with any of these picks before the draft, what are some realistic trades to consolidate into higher picks? If you look at trade pick value charts etc... they'd say that we have the ammo to move up to #1. I don't think that's very realistic but what are some realistic scenarios?

[Bleeding Green]

Ethan Happ is a really interesting guy for a late pick if he falls to that 52nd pick. Don't really know anything about him except his stat-profile and usually guys this tall who have high assist-numbers end up being good defensive players in the NBA. Just from watching a couple highlights videos on youtube he doesn't look like he could guard out on the perimeter but has good positioning and awareness in the paint, slick passer. Terrible free throw shooter, don't think there is much there for a jumper.

[sully00]

Let's say we end up with four 1st round picks. I'll say 9, 13, 19, 22 for the purpose of this question. If we can't actually strike a deal for a player with any of these picks before the draft, what are some realistic trades to consolidate into higher picks? If you look at trade pick value charts etc... they'd say that we have the ammo to move up to #1. I don't think that's very realistic but what are some realistic scenarios?

You need a motivated seller to move up. If you take the draft board as it stands I don't see a team in the top 5 motivated to swap to 9 for extra picks.

Now there are bunch of teams that may not have a 1st round pick in this draft. DAL, DEN, HOU, LAC, MEM, MIL, SAC, TOR. This will matter more to some than others. Unfortunately these teams do not have a bunch of incoming picks in future years two swap one of BOS's for. The Clippers are the one exception as they have a Lottery protected 1st from the Sixers that starts in '20 and an unprotected '21 from Miami. But with an off season focus on cap space I am not sure how interested they are in a 1st round pick at the same point there isn't a significant difference between the minimum salary cap hold and the first year salary of #18 pick.

That same salary issue may motivate a team looking at cap space to trade down but not likely. I also feel like there are bunch of teams that are bad fits for deals with Boston right now. LAL, PHI, TOR, NYK are franchises that I just feel like a trade is non starter, UTAH probably isn't very excited to make a deal with us either.

[No-Man]

in the ranges you're possibly drafting, these are the guys I'd target;

9th

Brandon Clarke
Sekou Doumbouya
Coby White

What is your take on White? It feels like I have seen him look like a future All Star and then watched games and can't remember if he even played. Is he an NBA PG or one of those Tar Heel PG's that are doing it because somebody has to and he can dribble with both hands?

To me he is a guy who needs a point forward next to him or another PG who can be okay on D too, but he is a good one, he can playmake some but not PG level, his lack of wingspan and his body type limit his creation a ton and he is kinda rushed, what he does have is undeniable ability to score, his pullups are nuts and he can defend, he is not a small scoring Guard confined in a bench role, he is actually a good defender with a team attitude, busts plays when off ball due to recognition, keeps arms and hands up, is tall and has a strong lower body, he gets hurt by lack of length sometimes but the dude is pesky too

He is kinda your typical 3&D guard blended with the scoring package of a 6th man microwave scorer, minus like I said some of the dribbling ability, so for the right team I think he can be a starter and a winning player

[No-Man]

Any team in the 2-10 range should be motivated to trade down or out, almost every year but esp this year

[threrf23]

Ethan Happ is a really interesting guy for a late pick if he falls to that 52nd pick. Don't really know anything about him except his stat-profile and usually guys this tall who have high assist-numbers end up being good defensive players in the NBA. Just from watching a couple highlights videos on youtube he doesn't look like he could guard out on the perimeter but has good positioning and awareness in the paint, slick passer. Terrible free throw shooter, don't think there is much there for a jumper.

More here:

https://www.thestepien.com/ethan-happ/

His stats were solid throughout all four years of college. In terms of build and statistics, he seems to fit a similar profile to Pascal Siakam.

There is also Grant Williams, who computes as a lesser Draymond Green.

[Bleeding Green]

Ethan Happ is a really interesting guy for a late pick if he falls to that 52nd pick. Don't really know anything about him except his stat-profile and usually guys this tall who have high assist-numbers end up being good defensive players in the NBA. Just from watching a couple highlights videos on youtube he doesn't look like he could guard out on the perimeter but has good positioning and awareness in the paint, slick passer. Terrible free throw shooter, don't think there is much there for a jumper.

More here:

https://www.thestepien.com/ethan-happ/

His stats were solid throughout all four years of college. In terms of build and statistics, he seems to fit a similar profile to Pascal Siakam.

There is also Grant Williams, who computes as a lesser Draymond Green.

Siakam is a so much longer and athletic than Happ, but I'm a super Siakam fanboy. But it's just not every year you find a PF who drops 5+ assists a game in college, senior or otherwise. There are only a couple guards in this entire draft who dropped more assists per game. I'd like to see a Mason Plumlee ceiling for Happ and that would be amazing for a second round pick.

[Andrew McCeltic]

It's rare, isn't it, to find the "next" Draymond Green or the next Siakam.. the challenge is to find the "first" someone else..

I'm assuming for now we trade Tatum, Jaylen Brown and Rozier.. If we draft at 9 I like the best slider available - Hachimura would be interesting.. Coby White or Cam Reddish..

At 14-ish I like Doumbouya, or the best shooting guard prospect available - Romeo Langford, if he's there - Danny will like him because he shot better in high school than his first year of college - at 20 and 22, either best shooting guard available at 20 or best big man prospects..

Something like

14. Langford
20. Doumbouya
22. Bol, Bassey, Bitadze or Brandon Clarke..

Or

14. Doumbouya
20. Nickeil Alexander-Walker
22. Bol (high ceiling, high risk project), Bassey (likely role-player), Clarke (likely a player), or Bitadze (a potential cheap Baynes replacement, somewhere between Zizic, Nurkic, and Krstic)

Kyrie/vet pg/Alexander-Walker
Smart/RJ Hunter
Hayward/Ojeleye/Doumbouya
Davis/Theis/Yabusele
Horford/vet center/Williams/Bol-or-Bitadze

Or

Kyrie/vet pg/third string pg
Smart/Langford/Hunter
Hayward/Ojeleye/Doumbouya
Davis/Yabusele/Clarke
Horford/Theis/vet big

[Bill Lumbergh]

I really like this Miye Oni kid out of Yale. He's presently mocked as a late second rounder, but he looks a lot better than that to me. I'd take him with a late first. Check him out:

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[coach mang]

mangIna would b happy to get one or both of Louis Kang and EJ Washington. A couple five star recruits out of jersey. Sometimes u get lucky with these blue chip recruits that get early season injuries and then just get better every month as the season goes on. Washington can b a Eric Williams tj warren style swing forward. Kang give mang a quintel woods vibe without the dogfighting hobby and **** attitude.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Thinking Keldon Johnson is the most "Ainge" pick if he's there at 14 - or 9.. Size, length, athleticism, hustle, explosiveness, mostly just needs to lock down his shot.. Defensive versatility would be big, and as a 2 guard he's a good replacement for whichever of Jaylen/Jayson/Smart we might trade.. or, with no trade, adds depth anyway.

Seems like a player who will rise in the pre-draft process, especially if he has some good turns shooting at work-outs.

[Darth Celtic]

Thinking Keldon Johnson is the most "Ainge" pick if he's there at 14 - or 9.. Size, length, athleticism, hustle, explosiveness, mostly just needs to lock down his shot.. Defensive versatility would be big, and as a 2 guard he's a good replacement for whichever of Jaylen/Jayson/Smart we might trade.. or, with no trade, adds depth anyway.

Seems like a player who will rise in the pre-draft process, especially if he has some good turns shooting at work-outs.

I am by no way a draft expert. I haven't seen the kid play. My limited knowledge of him is stats. .2 blocks a game at almost 6'7" in college? .8steals? 30 mins per game?

Listed as having a small wingspan as well.

He's more of a 20-22 pick guy.

Tankathon has him at 24 and nbadraft.net has him at 7.....

[Diamondman07]

Keldon Johnson was one of my guys entering the season, his “luster” is dimmed right now as at UK Tyler Herro Stepped up and outshined him.

I’d be thrilled if we can get him at 20, he has definitely fallen under the radar thanks to Herro and PJ Washington stepping up at Kentucky. Wasn’t that he was bad or a slouch, but those 2 really upped their games and he stayed consistent.

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

Cameron Johnson just had a workout with the Celtics.


He is obviously a player that is a perfect fit. Compared to most picks, ready to play right away. Compared to most Celtics, he hits many outside shots with a high percentage. Also hits free throws.

Right now, he plays a position where the Celtics have a lot of depth. But those small forwards are also trade assets.

A lot of teams in the second half of the first round probably think he can help them, and Detroit might be where he starts to get considered? They need a small forward to hit shots, space the floor. OKC, Utah, Cleveland, they make sense too. C Johnson at 20 to Boston, if they want him maybe they think about using that specific pick on him.

50.5%, 45.7%, 81.8%, he can certainly shoot.


Someone might want to start making a list of all the players who are working out for Boston before the draft.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Keldon Johnson was one of my guys entering the season, his “luster” is dimmed right now as at UK Tyler Herro Stepped up and outshined him.

I’d be thrilled if we can get him at 20, he has definitely fallen under the radar thanks to Herro and PJ Washington stepping up at Kentucky. Wasn’t that he was bad or a slouch, but those 2 really upped their games and he stayed consistent.

What's your opinion of Herro at 20? Assume you watch UK games. What little I've seen of him tells me he really knows how to play. Would he have enough athleticism to make it in the NBA? I know this is just HS, but I've liked him since I saw this:

Watch on YouTube

[FlatearthZorro]

Keldon Johnson was one of my guys entering the season, his “luster” is dimmed right now as at UK Tyler Herro Stepped up and outshined him.

I’d be thrilled if we can get him at 20, he has definitely fallen under the radar thanks to Herro and PJ Washington stepping up at Kentucky. Wasn’t that he was bad or a slouch, but those 2 really upped their games and he stayed consistent.

What's your opinion of Herro at 20? Assume you watch UK games. What little I've seen of him tells me he really knows how to play. Would he have enough athleticism to make it in the NBA? I know this is just HS, but I've liked him since I saw this:

Watch on YouTube

I'd take him at #20, if we're picking. He has the mentality, he's fairly tough and very skilled on offense from what I've seen. Good size for a SG.

[FlatearthZorro]

The other guy that is in our range is probably Okpala, but I think if we aren't trading the picks, you have to take Doumbouya based on a far superior match to our roster. Okpala is more a 3, wing, Sekou can be a 4-5, he's 19 and 6'9... He'll be 6'10 by the time he's done growing..

[threrf23]

I am by no way a draft expert. I haven't seen the kid play. My limited knowledge of him is stats. .2 blocks a game at almost 6'7" in college? .8steals? 30 mins per game?

Listed as having a small wingspan as well.

He's more of a 20-22 pick guy.

Tankathon has him at 24 and nbadraft.net has him at 7.....

1 steal versus 3 fouls per 40 isn't terrible, and he rebounded respectably well playing as a guard on a team with size. That tends to be a good sign.

Not that I know much more than you about him, but nbadraft.net says this about him:

He doesn’t need the ball in his hands to be a threat on the offensive end of the floor…… Has shown the desire to guard his man the full length of the court ... His defensive impact doesn’t show up on the stat sheet ... A winner. A natural leader with very good intangibles ...