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2019 NBA Draft Prep

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What direction should Hawks go with their lottery picks?

Sekou Doumbouya
19
18%
Coby White
4
4%
Jaxson Hayes
9
9%
Nassir Little
5
5%
Cam Reddish
35
34%
Bol Bol
14
14%
Brandon Clarke
10
10%
Trade the picks
7
7%
 
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2661 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:45 pm

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Post#2662 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:46 pm

I think I'm on board with bringing in both of these guys:

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Post#2663 » by kg01 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:49 pm

I prefer we target some high-athleticism guys this year. I wanna see some linth. We've proven we can score. Now we need to stop dudes. Add some grit.
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Post#2664 » by marco102 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:19 pm

kg01 wrote:I prefer we target some high-athleticism guys this year. I wanna see some linth. We've proven we can score. Now we need to stop dudes. Add some grit.


My hope is that the Hawks select players with two way potential with great linth as you put it..lol. I'm leaving Zion off the list.

1. Cam Reddish - Pick 3 - 8 - 6'8" 7'1" wingspan
2. Jarrett Culver - Pick 3 - 8 - 6'7"ish not sure about wingspan
3. Kevin Porter Jr - Pick 9 - 13 - 6'6" with 6'9 or 10" wingspan
4. Jaxson Hayes - Pick 9 - 13 - 6'11" with 7'3" wingspan
5. Bol Bol - Pick 9 - 13 - no explanation needed.
6. Deandre Hunter - Pick 9 - 13 - 6'7" with 7' wingspan
6. Jontay Porter - 2nd Round pick - 6'11" with 7' wingspan I believe. Not really linth, but he's too skilled and has too much upside not to select here.
7. Darius Beazley - 2nd Round pick - He has excellent two-way potential 6'10" and 7'1" wingspan reportedly and he's put on about 20 pounds of muscle from what I've seen. He's about 215 which still isn't much for someone that size, but he still has time to add additional weight before workouts and the draft.
8. 2nd Round Pick - Whatever European Center fits the bill.

Order above is the priority of the players I want which means nothing in the grand scheme of things. I believe most of the players fit the bill of pass, dribble, shoot, which Schlink is high on, except, they also have two-way potential.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2665 » by marco102 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:20 pm

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Post#2666 » by Spud2nique » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:38 pm

kg01 wrote:I prefer we target some high-athleticism guys this year. I wanna see some linth. We've proven we can score. Now we need to stop dudes. Add some grit.


So DeAndre Hunter? He fits what you described most of a top 10 pick.
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Post#2667 » by kerrypack » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:44 pm

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kg01 wrote:I prefer we target some high-athleticism guys this year. I wanna see some linth. We've proven we can score. Now we need to stop dudes. Add some grit.


My hope is that the Hawks select players with two way potential with great linth as you put it..lol. I'm leaving Zion off the list.

1. Cam Reddish - Pick 3 - 8 - 6'8" 7'1" wingspan
2. Jarrett Culver - Pick 3 - 8 - 6'7"ish not sure about wingspan
3. Kevin Porter Jr - Pick 9 - 13 - 6'6" with 6'9 or 10" wingspan
4. Jaxson Hayes - Pick 9 - 13 - 6'11" with 7'3" wingspan
5. Bol Bol - Pick 9 - 13 - no explanation needed.
6. Deandre Hunter - Pick 9 - 13 - 6'7" with 7' wingspan
6. Jontay Porter - 2nd Round pick - 6'11" with 7' wingspan I believe. Not really linth, but he's too skilled and has too much upside not to select here.
7. Darius Beazley - 2nd Round pick - He's excellent two potential 6'10" and 7'1" wingspan reportedly and he's put on about 20 pounds of muscle from what I've seen. He's about 215 which still isn't much for someone that size, but he still has time to add additional weight before workouts and the draft.
8. 2nd Round Pick - Whatever European Center fits the bill.

Order above is the priority of the players I want which means nothing in the grand scheme of things. I believe most of the players fit the bill of pass, dribble, shoot, which Slink is high on, except, they also have two potential.


Some places are lower on Reddish than this messageboard, but we'll see if he has more to him than he showed at Duke. Will be fun to follow as usual. I was really disappointed in trae last year but looks like I've been proven wrong for the most part.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2668 » by marco102 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:45 pm

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marco102 wrote:
kg01 wrote:I prefer we target some high-athleticism guys this year. I wanna see some linth. We've proven we can score. Now we need to stop dudes. Add some grit.


My hope is that the Hawks select players with two way potential with great linth as you put it..lol. I'm leaving Zion off the list.

1. Cam Reddish - Pick 3 - 8 - 6'8" 7'1" wingspan
2. Jarrett Culver - Pick 3 - 8 - 6'7"ish not sure about wingspan
3. Kevin Porter Jr - Pick 9 - 13 - 6'6" with 6'9 or 10" wingspan
4. Jaxson Hayes - Pick 9 - 13 - 6'11" with 7'3" wingspan
5. Bol Bol - Pick 9 - 13 - no explanation needed.
6. Deandre Hunter - Pick 9 - 13 - 6'7" with 7' wingspan
6. Jontay Porter - 2nd Round pick - 6'11" with 7' wingspan I believe. Not really linth, but he's too skilled and has too much upside not to select here.
7. Darius Beazley - 2nd Round pick - He's excellent two potential 6'10" and 7'1" wingspan reportedly and he's put on about 20 pounds of muscle from what I've seen. He's about 215 which still isn't much for someone that size, but he still has time to add additional weight before workouts and the draft.
8. 2nd Round Pick - Whatever European Center fits the bill.

Order above is the priority of the players I want which means nothing in the grand scheme of things. I believe most of the players fit the bill of pass, dribble, shoot, which Slink is high on, except, they also have two potential.


Some places are lower on Reddish than this messageboard, but we'll see if he has more to him than he showed at Duke. Will be fun to follow as usual. I was really disappointed in trae last year but looks like I've been proven wrong for the most part.


You were disappointed that the Hawks selected Trae or you were disappointed in the season Trae had?
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2669 » by King Ken » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:49 pm

Guy Jerome is my guy. I want him in the early 2nd.

I love Hunter but I am not sold on him for us, but I like him in general. Yes those two announced
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2670 » by shakes0 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:49 pm

kerrypack wrote:
Some places are lower on Reddish than this messageboard, but we'll see if he has more to him than he showed at Duke. Will be fun to follow as usual. I was really disappointed in trae last year but looks like I've been proven wrong for the most part.



:banghead: For the most part????
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Post#2671 » by King Ken » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:51 pm

kerrypack wrote:
marco102 wrote:
kg01 wrote:I prefer we target some high-athleticism guys this year. I wanna see some linth. We've proven we can score. Now we need to stop dudes. Add some grit.


My hope is that the Hawks select players with two way potential with great linth as you put it..lol. I'm leaving Zion off the list.

1. Cam Reddish - Pick 3 - 8 - 6'8" 7'1" wingspan
2. Jarrett Culver - Pick 3 - 8 - 6'7"ish not sure about wingspan
3. Kevin Porter Jr - Pick 9 - 13 - 6'6" with 6'9 or 10" wingspan
4. Jaxson Hayes - Pick 9 - 13 - 6'11" with 7'3" wingspan
5. Bol Bol - Pick 9 - 13 - no explanation needed.
6. Deandre Hunter - Pick 9 - 13 - 6'7" with 7' wingspan
6. Jontay Porter - 2nd Round pick - 6'11" with 7' wingspan I believe. Not really linth, but he's too skilled and has too much upside not to select here.
7. Darius Beazley - 2nd Round pick - He's excellent two potential 6'10" and 7'1" wingspan reportedly and he's put on about 20 pounds of muscle from what I've seen. He's about 215 which still isn't much for someone that size, but he still has time to add additional weight before workouts and the draft.
8. 2nd Round Pick - Whatever European Center fits the bill.

Order above is the priority of the players I want which means nothing in the grand scheme of things. I believe most of the players fit the bill of pass, dribble, shoot, which Slink is high on, except, they also have two potential.


Some places are lower on Reddish than this messageboard, but we'll see if he has more to him than he showed at Duke. Will be fun to follow as usual. I was really disappointed in trae last year but looks like I've been proven wrong for the most part.

People have good reason to be low on him. His stats and bouts with inconsistency is real and his ability to create within the arc but lucky for him. We play an unique system and we have Trae Young so it doesn't matter as we are a great situation and a perfect fit
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Post#2672 » by kg01 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:31 pm

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kg01 wrote:I prefer we target some high-athleticism guys this year. I wanna see some linth. We've proven we can score. Now we need to stop dudes. Add some grit.


So DeAndre Hunter? He fits what you described most of a top 10 pick.


Nope. He's slow(ish). A poor man's Justise WinSLOW.

Maybe with a late 1st. Certainly not in the lottery.
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Post#2674 » by Spud2nique » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:09 pm

kg01 wrote:
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kg01 wrote:I prefer we target some high-athleticism guys this year. I wanna see some linth. We've proven we can score. Now we need to stop dudes. Add some grit.


So DeAndre Hunter? He fits what you described most of a top 10 pick.


Nope. He's slow(ish). A poor man's Justise WinSLOW.

Maybe with a late 1st. Certainly not in the lottery.



:lol: oh come on kg. When will the hatin end? You hated on Luka, Bagley, Wendy Carter (I was with u there), Zion and now poor DeAndre? What did this guy do to rub you wrong? Oh ..GT ...they gottem by 30...

I see. But Hunter only had 18,4,3 in the game...

Fine he’s a little slow but you can’t tell me you wouldn’t want him hounding the opposing team’s best offensive weapon all night.
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Post#2675 » by Spud2nique » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:11 pm

kg01 wrote:
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kg01 wrote:I prefer we target some high-athleticism guys this year. I wanna see some linth. We've proven we can score. Now we need to stop dudes. Add some grit.


So DeAndre Hunter? He fits what you described most of a top 10 pick.


Nope. He's slow(ish). A poor man's Justise WinSLOW.

Maybe with a late 1st. Certainly not in the lottery.



Alvarado had a team high 12 points in that game btw.
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Post#2676 » by kerrypack » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:52 pm

shakes0 wrote:
kerrypack wrote:
Some places are lower on Reddish than this messageboard, but we'll see if he has more to him than he showed at Duke. Will be fun to follow as usual. I was really disappointed in trae last year but looks like I've been proven wrong for the most part.



:banghead: For the most part????


was disappointed that Atlanta didn't pick doncic on draft night. Think trae is doing great and it could be a smart trade; we'll see. drafting is such a crapshoot.
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Post#2677 » by kg01 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:33 pm

Spud2nique wrote:
kg01 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
So DeAndre Hunter? He fits what you described most of a top 10 pick.


Nope. He's slow(ish). A poor man's Justise WinSLOW.

Maybe with a late 1st. Certainly not in the lottery.



Alvarado had a team high 12 points in that game btw.


My real issue with Hunter is that I'd prefer to take him lower than where he's likely to be picked.

And the GT stuff is hurtful. My feewings are hurt rite now. :cry: 'Scuse me, I got dust in my eyes.
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Post#2678 » by King Ken » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:28 pm

kg01 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
kg01 wrote:
Nope. He's slow(ish). A poor man's Justise WinSLOW.

Maybe with a late 1st. Certainly not in the lottery.



Alvarado had a team high 12 points in that game btw.


My real issue with Hunter is that I'd prefer to take him lower than where he's likely to be picked.

And the GT stuff is hurtful. My feewings are hurt rite now. :cry: 'Scuse me, I got dust in my eyes.

He is Otto Porter Jr. Ish to me so being picked in the top 7 sounds about right but when he gets that 2nd contract, you will cry.

While Reddish will be worth the 2nd contract for us so it doesn't even matter that much.
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Post#2679 » by Spud2nique » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:00 am

kg01 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
kg01 wrote:
Nope. He's slow(ish). A poor man's Justise WinSLOW.

Maybe with a late 1st. Certainly not in the lottery.



Alvarado had a team high 12 points in that game btw.


My real issue with Hunter is that I'd prefer to take him lower than where he's likely to be picked.

And the GT stuff is hurtful. My feewings are hurt rite now. :cry: 'Scuse me, I got dust in my eyes.



:lol: that’s allergies broh. Wasn’t trying to hurt I only make you smile I hope. I think in this draft Hunter at about 5-10 makes sense. Out of everyone in that top ten he is probably a top 2 or 3 in terms of fit for us. Now, we have to determine how much we’d prefer him over Prince. With Prince though, I don’t even know what we have, aggressive but controlled three point shooting and good D Prince or inconsistent offense clogging Prince. He seems like the ideal wing we’ve wanted. Having said that, I wish he showed more dog in him. If he had more dog with that body, game over. Imagine a Trae heart and will inside a Hunter body. That’s a top 3 pick maybe.
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Post#2680 » by King Ken » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:59 am

Spud2nique wrote:
kg01 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:

Alvarado had a team high 12 points in that game btw.


My real issue with Hunter is that I'd prefer to take him lower than where he's likely to be picked.

And the GT stuff is hurtful. My feewings are hurt rite now. :cry: 'Scuse me, I got dust in my eyes.



:lol: that’s allergies broh. Wasn’t trying to hurt I only make you smile I hope. I think in this draft Hunter at about 5-10 makes sense. Out of everyone in that top ten he is probably a top 2 or 3 in terms of fit for us. Now, we have to determine how much we’d prefer him over Prince. With Prince though, I don’t even know what we have, aggressive but controlled three point shooting and good D Prince or inconsistent offense clogging Prince. He seems like the ideal wing we’ve wanted. Having said that, I wish he showed more dog in him. If he had more dog with that body, game over. Imagine a Trae heart and will inside a Hunter body. That’s a top 3 pick maybe.

I am not sure about that.
I think Zion is obviously #1.
Reddish #2
Clarke #3
Hayes #4
Fernando, #5
Then Hunter/Goga B. at #6t best fits.

The issue with Hunter is the issue I always had with Hunter in our system. Slow hands, won't cause a lot of turnovers which is no issue in a system like Cleveland or Memphis but could be a major one with our tempo. Heavy for a wing which is good for switching which we do but can be problematic in a high pace system which will ask him to guard top defensive assignments and need defensive numbers. Not sure if we are a good fit in that area. The biggest issue I question his is range. He has a decent shot if open but honestly, his three point shooting isn't much. He lacks volume and struggles at it if he is asked to score at a higher volume. I think which the Final Four hurt Culver's standing with fans, I feel like Hunter maybe got too much of a boost. His offense won't be that great in the NBA. We are looking at a potential 15 ppg career scoring with a projected .356 3pt shooter which is solid but I question if he can shoot it at a high volume just from what I seen from his college shooting. Another issue is, I don't think his range is great. He doesn't often any range versatility that I look for in an extreme spacing system like we have.

That said, Hunter is a tremendous prospect overall for me. I think he is a low bust player for ANY team and one that offers a value that you see in Otto Porter Jr. That's has tremendous value for a lot of NBA teams, including ours but when it's time to paid him, it will be the max. I have an issue with that considering what our system and how I still don't think his defense best fit is our personnel where he will be more limited in minutes just due to our personnel and the way we play. Easily the most NBA ready SF in the draft but he is literally 2 years older than Reddish, 3 years older than Sekou, 2.5 years older than Zion and R.J. For someone who already has ceiling issues, you know you are getting a player who most of these players could be better than Hunter when they are at the same age as him. That is another area for me that I have issues with.

I have to say, if you look at Feb 14 of 2019. You look at this class differently.
Look at Cam Reddish, he had a .390 projected 3pt. That's beyond elite. Consider this, .368 was Kevin's projected 3pt estimate. Think about that for a minute.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190214164840/http://www.tankathon.com/big_board

Look, I get it, the tournaments matter but for freshman, I always say they generally lose impact as teams know what their weaknesses are. I always look at two snapshots for them. 3/4 of the season and the end. This is how Trae Young was the most dynamic PG to ever play college and then at the end looked like a scrub. Now if you watched the end, Trae Young is ass. But if you watched for first 3/4 of season, Trae was a no brainer. Look at our Trae. No brainer, duh! We have to understand freshman need time in the NCAA's.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190214192729/http://www.tankathon.com/players/cam-reddish
http://www.tankathon.com/players/cam-reddish

It's normal with most prospects:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190214203053/http://www.tankathon.com/players/romeo-langford
http://www.tankathon.com/players/romeo-langford

https://web.archive.org/web/20190214172835/http://www.tankathon.com/players/r-j-barrett
http://www.tankathon.com/players/r-j-barrett

https://web.archive.org/web/20190214201508/http://www.tankathon.com/players/zion-williamson
http://www.tankathon.com/players/zion-williamson

While it's normal to see steady play from Soph to upperclassmen throughout the year regardless of tournament play or not. This why drafting freshman, you gotta scout everything. The final result is not indicative of how good of a NBA prospect one is.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180620055834/http://www.tankathon.com:80/big_board

https://web.archive.org/web/20180626164909/http://www.tankathon.com/players/trae-young
https://web.archive.org/web/20180125020228/http://www.tankathon.com:80/players/trae-young - Jan 25th
https://web.archive.org/web/20180108003202/http://www.tankathon.com:80/players/trae-young - Jan 8th
https://web.archive.org/web/20171221165224/http://www.tankathon.com:80/players/trae-young

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