Bol Bol

pad300 · Post #301 » by **pad300** » Mon Apr 8, 2019 2:18 pm

Ruzious wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
clyde21 wrote:

A live version of Clyde Responding to Bol criticism lmao

Spoiler:

I already answered all of this or the points are not worth addressing.

I have nothing more to say on the matter instead of go and actually watch Bols games. You like the idea of him more than the actual version. Especially when glossing over flaws he very clearly has.

You know that's not fair. It's fine if you disagree, but that was a cheap shot.

Bol's as polarizing a prospect as I can remember. What do folks think about his position. Can you team him up in today's NBA with a center?

I'd say depends on the center. There are some pretty mobile C's out there these days. And they're not neccesarily the highest paid guys either - for example, Tiago Splitter, although often injured, had real talent at getting out on the perimeter and moving his feet. In the alternative, he could pair up well with another currently underpaid archetype - the bully ball PF. Your PF would be primary rebounder and post defender, with Bol swooping in for blocks...

Again, to restate my opinion, Bol looks Dirk-ish to me. He's got the same offensive strengths. Defensively, if anyone remembers young Dirk, he had pretty much the same defensive issues as well. The plus is that he's bigger... The downside is his injury and potential physical problems. I'm pretty sure that even Dirk - lite will be useable in the NBA. So I'd draft him, unless he medically red-flags.

clyde21 · Post #302 » by **clyde21** » Mon Apr 8, 2019 4:13 pm

offensively he's a taller, slower KD.

Stillwater · Post #303 » by **Stillwater** » Mon Apr 8, 2019 4:35 pm

clyde21 wrote:offensively he's a taller, slower KD.

Does he have that handle though? Not sold he's got that in his game yet

clyde21 · Post #304 » by **clyde21** » Mon Apr 8, 2019 4:38 pm

Stillwater wrote:
clyde21 wrote:offensively he's a taller, slower KD.

Does he have that handle though? Not sold he's got that in his game yet

no it's not KD level but it's there

Stillwater · Post #305 » by **Stillwater** » Mon Apr 8, 2019 4:47 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
clyde21 wrote:offensively he's a taller, slower KD.

Does he have that handle though? Not sold he's got that in his game yet

no it's not KD level but it's there

Yep pretty solid for a 7' er . I just wonder if in those situations the defender was stupified / never expected it or something.

Coeur · Post #306 » by **Coeur** » Mon Apr 8, 2019 5:11 pm

I really like that he stayed with his Oregon team. Stayed engaged, traveled with them. Acted like a teammate

In that situation it would have been pretty easy for a lot of people to just move to LA and start being a pro

Rafly · Post #307 » by **Rafly** » Mon Apr 8, 2019 5:33 pm

He seems like a good fit to play next to Bam in Miami.

Rockmaninoff · Post #308 » by **Rockmaninoff** » Mon Apr 8, 2019 11:29 pm

Stillwater wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Does he have that handle though? Not sold he's got that in his game yet

no it's not KD level but it's there

Yep pretty solid for a 7' er . I just wonder if in those situations the defender was stupified / never expected it or something.

They probably didn't expect a 7'2" guy to counter with a spin move and a crossover, but he still did it.

eminence · Post #309 » by **eminence** » Tue Apr 9, 2019 12:20 am

He's the most promising offensive 7 ft guy coming out of college I can think of since I've followed the NBA (early-mid 00's). He's got an actual workable handle, his shot is butter, and he's shown more than most as a passer.

I get the injury/defensive concerns, but in terms of high end outcomes he's easily #2 in this class to me.

Stillwater · Post #310 » by **Stillwater** » Tue Apr 9, 2019 12:26 am

Rockmaninoff wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
no it's not KD level but it's there

Yep pretty solid for a 7' er . I just wonder if in those situations the defender was stupified / never expected it or something.

They probably didn't expect a 7'2" guy to counter with a spin move and a crossover, but he still did it.

Yeah I mean it was against Omaha and Eastern Was.
but yeah he has the moves...do they translate against good defenders? not sold on that as is,.probably does after a couple seasons if he puts the work in. ( handle is just ok , solid for a player his size,yes...but still just ok)

Nazrmohamed · Post #311 » by **Nazrmohamed** » Tue Apr 9, 2019 12:50 am

Stillwater wrote:
clyde21 wrote:offensively he's a taller, slower KD.

Does he have that handle though? Not sold he's got that in his game yet

That's not KD level anything. More like KP level but hey that's still pretty good. Let's find out if hes KP level injury prone though before assuming anything.

LakersSoul · Post #312 » by **LakersSoul** » Tue Apr 9, 2019 1:59 am

I like Bol Bol. Unless someone drops, I would over draft on BB as the Lakers.

clyde21 · Post #313 » by **clyde21** » Tue Apr 9, 2019 2:42 am

eminence wrote:He's the most promising offensive 7 ft guy coming out of college I can think of since I've followed the NBA (early-mid 00's). He's got an actual workable handle, his shot is butter, and he's shown more than most as a passer.

I get the injury/defensive concerns, but in terms of high end outcomes he's easily #2 in this class to me.

a good repertoire of moves on the inside, too. he's an ELITE offensive prospect.

treefi · Post #314 » by **treefi** » Tue Apr 9, 2019 4:12 am

Yeah, I still see Bol Bol as a top 10 pick.

rtblues · Post #315 » by **rtblues** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:35 pm

Stillwater wrote:
Rockmaninoff wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Yep pretty solid for a 7' er . I just wonder if in those situations the defender was stupified / never expected it or something.

They probably didn't expect a 7'2" guy to counter with a spin move and a crossover, but he still did it.

Yeah I mean it was against Omaha and Eastern Was.
but yeah he has the moves...do they translate against good defenders? not sold on that as is,.probably does after a couple seasons if he puts the work in. ( handle is just ok , solid for a player his size,yes...but still just ok)

He had big numbers vs a ranked Syracuse team, just to be fair.

Upperclass · Post #316 » by **Upperclass** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:19 pm

2nd most impactful in the draft and probably wont even go top 10. Some teams are going to be upset. In the end.. i think he's a Celtic

Stillwater · Post #317 » by **Stillwater** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:23 am

Upperclass wrote:2nd most impactful in the draft and probably wont even go top 10. Some teams are going to be upset. In the end.. i think he's a Celtic

He could drop past 10, but only if his medicals are ****.

brackdan70 · Post #318 » by **brackdan70** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:29 am

Upperclass wrote:2nd most impactful in the draft and probably wont even go top 10. Some teams are going to be upset. In the end.. i think he's a Celtic

...and then pelican

Yeah I would draft him pretty high on the top 10 though there is certainly a fair bit of risk.

Roddy B for 3 · 7/1/2019 (I broke a mirror on 7-1-2012)

clyde21 wrote:
eminence wrote:He's the most promising offensive 7 ft guy coming out of college I can think of since I've followed the NBA (early-mid 00's). He's got an actual workable handle, his shot is butter, and he's shown more than most as a passer.

I get the injury/defensive concerns, but in terms of high end outcomes he's easily #2 in this class to me.

a good repertoire of moves on the inside, too. he's an ELITE offensive prospect.

Do you think he will play 200 games over his rookie contact?

clyde21 · Post #320 » by **clyde21** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:08 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
eminence wrote:He's the most promising offensive 7 ft guy coming out of college I can think of since I've followed the NBA (early-mid 00's). He's got an actual workable handle, his shot is butter, and he's shown more than most as a passer.

I get the injury/defensive concerns, but in terms of high end outcomes he's easily #2 in this class to me.

a good repertoire of moves on the inside, too. he's an ELITE offensive prospect.

Do you think he will play 200 games over his rookie contact?

if he stays healthy yes