Fiserv Forum Thread - Full (Almost) Capacity Now

[JEIS]

I don't live there anymore, but I was another upper level BC noise starter who couldn't understand why people didn't want the whole thing to be as loud as possible at all times. Who are these people? Probably the greatest BC game I attended for the atmosphere was Bucks Pacers Game 3 where everyone just full throat booed Reggie Miller at all times. It was a loss and still the most incredible thing.

If you listen to the ambient noise of GS/Clippers when the Dubs are up 30 and Bucks/Pistons when the Bucks are up 30, there's no comparison. And I don't mean cheering. I mean the buzz of the crowd. You can watch the Youtube of Jennings 55 point game, and I always crack up at the fans in the slow-mo replays who aren't giving it up after his hundredth 2nd Half 3. I thought we were past this after Bucks/Raptors, but these non cheerers need to be shamed right now.

I agree about that Pacer series. They were the most hype games I went to as a Bucks fan. Reggie sucks! Reggie Sucks! Reggie Sucks!

I went to the one where the Bucks whooped them by like 30.

[Chuck Diesel]

Most Milwaukeeans just aren't NBA basketball people.

That’s a damn lie. Some of you guys need to get out and talk to people in Milwaukee. The demographics of Milwaukee alone go against that statement.

Anyone that went to the grand opening of the Fiserv Forum on that hot ass day this past August will tell you other wise.

Not to mention how packed the bars around Milwaukee are during the NBA finals. I remember going to a bar in Milwaukee during the 2016 finals (Stenys to be exact) and it was packed wall to wall with people. Very intense atmosphere between Bron Stans and Warrior fans.



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That's fair. I lived in the city for five years and have been visiting family in the area all my life. All I can go with is my own experience. I'm friends with NBA die hards from Milwaukee, I know they exist. To me it's just always felt like they're vastly out-numbered by people who'd rather be at the Aaron Rogers charity softball game.

Had an awesome time last night. It's a first class operation and as impressive as everyone's said. Truly special to see this team up close. I was about 10 rows up directly behind the Pistons bench and one of the few people in my area getting hype/on my feet throughout the game. There's just this palpable energy/awareness of how to be a good NBA crowd that feels lacking. They're not on top of the refs the moment after a 50/50 call, got deathly silent when Det went on their 2nd quarter run. People were having fun but they just weren't locked in the way I'd hope for a playoff crowd. The dudes behind me were absolutely brutal. "Wasn't Ersan on the Pistons last year? 'Yeah that's right.' "Last game I wanted to leave at halftime, the NBA can be so boring." I know you can't extrapolate two lame dudes to the entire crowd/Milwaukee fan base but that's the vibe I was getting. I don't expect everyone to remember when we drafted Darington Hobson (or even who he is) but come on now.

The Thon booing was lame to me not because it's impolite or whatever. It felt forced, fraudulent and petty. Like a bunch of people who don't follow the NBA decided "OK, we're going to boo now! First we make noise for the T-shirt cannon, then we ‘boo’ Thon and then we get really quiet.” Watch other crowds, check out other venues if you can. It's just different man. There have been too many excuses why the such a great fan base isn't going of their minds for the best team of their lifetime.

[buckboy]

Most Milwaukeeans just aren't NBA basketball people.

That’s a damn lie. Some of you guys need to get out and talk to people in Milwaukee. The demographics of Milwaukee alone go against that statement.

Anyone that went to the grand opening of the Fiserv Forum on that hot ass day this past August will tell you other wise.

Not to mention how packed the bars around Milwaukee are during the NBA finals. I remember going to a bar in Milwaukee during the 2016 finals (Stenys to be exact) and it was packed wall to wall with people. Very intense atmosphere between Bron Stans and Warrior fans.



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That's fair. I lived in the city for five years and have been visiting family in the area all my life. All I can go with is my own experience. I'm friends with NBA die hards from Milwaukee, I know they exist. To me it's just always felt like they're vastly out-numbered by people who'd rather be at the Aaron Rogers charity softball game.

Had an awesome time last night. It's a first class operation and as impressive as everyone's said. Truly special to see this team up close. I was about 10 rows up directly behind the Pistons bench and one of the few people in my area getting hype/on my feet throughout the game. There's just this palpable energy/awareness of how to be a good NBA crowd that feels lacking. They're not on top of the refs the moment after a 50/50 call, got deathly silent when Det went on their 2nd quarter run. People were having fun but they just weren't locked in the way I'd hope for a playoff crowd. The dudes behind me were absolutely brutal. "Wasn't Ersan on the Pistons last year? 'Yeah that's right.' "Last game I wanted to leave at halftime, the NBA can be so boring." I know you can't extrapolate two lame dudes to the entire crowd/Milwaukee fan base but that's the vibe I was getting. I don't expect everyone to remember when we drafted Darington Hobson (or even who he is) but come on now.

The Thon booing was lame to me because not because it's impolite, it felt forced, fraudulent and petty. Like a bunch of people who don't follow the NBA decided "OK, we're going to boo now! First we make noise for the T-shirt cannon, then we ‘boo’ Thon and then we get really quiet.” Watch other crowds, check out other venues if you can. It's just different man. There have been too many excuses why the such a great fan base isn't going of their minds for the best team of their lifetime.

You and I were 20 feet apart last night.

Elite.

[paulpressey25]

There have been too many excuses why the such a great fan base isn't going of their minds for the best team of their lifetime.

This was an NBA town in 1985. This is just going to take time for the vast majority of Wisconsin residents to buy in. They’ve been away too long and frankly the team has let them down for two generations. Two Pistons games aren’t going to change that. Once the team knocks off Boston, all hell is going to break loose here as the citizenry will feel safe. It will happen. Just wait.

[LittleRooster]

I was at the first game and i thought my section was really into it (we were literally the last row of the uppers, though).

Yet, I found it hard to get so excited because we were just so much better and the game itself was boring. It just felt like a regular season game in a way.

I still clapped and got excited when we’d get a steal or had great ball movement and hit a shot or whatnot. But I found it difficult to stay invested.

Which is different then my experiences in the past (Pacers games in 99/00, Bulls games).


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[MickeyDavis]

There have been too many excuses why the such a great fan base isn't going of their minds for the best team of their lifetime.

This was an NBA town in 1985. This is just going to take time for the vast majority of Wisconsin residents to buy in. They’ve been away too long and frankly the team has let them down for two generations. Two Pistons games aren’t going to change that. Once the team knocks off Boston, all hell is going to break loose here as the citizenry will feel safe. It will happen. Just wait.

This is it exactly. It takes more than 2 wins over a mediocre team to wash off 30 years of Kohl stink.

[paulpressey25]

As a basketball fanatic, and a person who has been exposed to a **** ton, I found the overwhelming takes just ugly. Granted, I should have premised this with: Baby Boomer exposure. But, man, I couldn’t sell those people ( literally hundreds of them if not thousands over 15 years) on anything NBA related let alone the Bucks.

You guys are running where there isn't anything. Again, in the 1980's the Bucks ruled this city. People of all races, colors and creeds loved the team. My mother's biggest dream? Have Sidney Moncrief over for dinner. All the weekday games started at 8pm and didn't end many nights until past 11pm and no one cared. They stayed until the end. Thousands in MIddleton lined up to watch Nellie drive the tractor through town.

While Herb Kohl loved the team, he loved it to death. Need to look no closer than my own family. I spent a decade trying to get my kids hooked on Bucks basketball. Took them to games, bought jersey's, collected the bobble-heads. But when Game of Thrones came on last Sunday night? "Dad, can you watch the end of the game in the bedroom, we want to watch GoT?" And those words were uttered by my daughter who was a varsity BB player.

All of these wreckage took place during a 25-year period where the Packers did nothing but win, while having perhaps two of the top ten greatest QB's of that period on the roster. All I had to convince my kids to follow the Bucks was a Bradley Center with 5,600 in attendance and Yi tripping over his shoelaces.

Wasn't just the fans. I'd watch Tim Van Vooren, Rod Burks, Lance Allen, Stephanie Sutton, etc. only come to the BC on the nights Kobe was there. And once they did their first quarter remote shot, they'd leave the building.

Rome wasn't built in a day. There is a lot of rubble to clean up.

[LittleRooster]

As a basketball fanatic, and a person who has been exposed to a **** ton, I found the overwhelming takes just ugly. Granted, I should have premised this with: Baby Boomer exposure. But, man, I couldn’t sell those people ( literally hundreds of them if not thousands over 15 years) on anything NBA related let alone the Bucks.

You guys are running where there isn't anything. Again, in the 1980's the Bucks ruled this city. People of all races, colors and creeds loved the team. My mother's biggest dream? Have Sidney Moncrief over for dinner. All the weekday games started at 8pm and didn't end many nights until past 11pm and no one cared. They stayed until the end. Thousands in MIddleton lined up to watch Nellie drive the tractor through town.

While Herb Kohl loved the team, he loved it to death. Need to look no closer than my own family. I spent a decade trying to get my kids hooked on Bucks basketball. Took them to games, bought jersey's, collected the bobble-heads. But when Game of Thrones came on last Sunday night? "Dad, can you watch the end of the game in the bedroom, we want to watch GoT?" And those words were uttered by my daughter who was a varsity BB player.

All of these wreckage took place during a 25-year period where the Packers did nothing but win, while having perhaps two of the top ten greatest QB's of that period on the roster. All I had to convince my kids to follow the Bucks was a Bradley Center with 5,600 in attendance and Yi tripping over his shoelaces.

Wasn't just the fans. I'd watch Tim Van Vooren, Rod Burks, Lance Allen, Stephanie Sutton, etc. only come to the BC on the nights Kobe was there. And once they did their first quarter remote shot, they'd leave the building.

Rome wasn't built in a day. There is a lot of rubble to clean up.

I agree with this. My dad was so over Kohl. Hell, he was still pissed and blamed Kohl for Nelson leaving. Felt Kohl was literally a curse on the team and he checked out mostly.

But man, he could talk about those 70’s and 80’s Bucks teams. He LOVED them.

Now with Giannis and a new building, he’s getting back into them again. But it’s taken time. Even me telling him that this Giannis is going to be great, he didn’t buy it. So it’s awesome to see him getting enjoyment with the team. I’m sure others around his age may start to feel the same way.


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[Limca]

My experience went like this:

“Bro can you chill out? Youre too loud”

Me - “to be clear you are telling me to lower my volume at a playoff game? Sorry. I will not compromise.”

Then there was a good play and the crowd went nuts.

Me - “loud enough for ya?”

Bro dude - “now you are just attacking me!!!!!”

Me - “I’ve been a STH for 20 years. I’ve earned the right to be here and cheer on my team”

He made a grave error. My volume wasn’t even turned up. I did not lose my voice at all during this game or game one. So I tweaked up the volume about 20%. I think he might have realized this because he said this:

“Hey man. No hard feelings. I see you are just enjoying the game. I’m not a fan of either team”

I agree with most peoples comments except:

#1. The excuse that “it will take time”. We have the best player and the best team in the league. The city has had a full year to recognize and embrace.

#2. “Just wait until Boston...”. If our home court is not ready for Boston they will easily steal game one. As fans we need to wake the F up and realize opportunities like this year are not guaranteed. Who knows - this could be our only shot at a championship. We need to do everything we can to create an electric environment so teams will actually fear coming here.

[Aaron It Out]

Can we talk about the MC? Seems like a cool dude but man he can kill the atmosphere sometimes. Especially before tip with the forced fear the deer. The BC would rock at the start when they didn't have someone screaming a chant nobody really wants to do.

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[Pachinko_]

Here's a questionnaire for you:
1) Do you feel that fans and the atmosphere they create is as important and enjoyable as the game itself, if not more?
2) As a fan have you ever felt like a participant rather than a spectator?
3) Do you understand that when the team plays like crap is exactly when they need more support from the crowd, not less?
4) Have you ever thought of the game as an opportunity to chant how you really feel about the team, the officials, the league?
5) Have you ever thought of the game as a competition between fanbases rather than a competition between teams?
6) Ever come back from a game happy because your fanbase kicks butt even though your team lost?
7) Does calling the game "a product" seem totally ridiculous to you because you never thought of yourself as a customer?

If you answered "yes" to most of those questions you're probably from Europe

[Chuck Diesel]

As a basketball fanatic, and a person who has been exposed to a **** ton, I found the overwhelming takes just ugly. Granted, I should have premised this with: Baby Boomer exposure. But, man, I couldn’t sell those people ( literally hundreds of them if not thousands over 15 years) on anything NBA related let alone the Bucks.

You guys are running where there isn't anything. Again, in the 1980's the Bucks ruled this city. People of all races, colors and creeds loved the team. My mother's biggest dream? Have Sidney Moncrief over for dinner. All the weekday games started at 8pm and didn't end many nights until past 11pm and no one cared. They stayed until the end. Thousands in MIddleton lined up to watch Nellie drive the tractor through town.

While Herb Kohl loved the team, he loved it to death. Need to look no closer than my own family. I spent a decade trying to get my kids hooked on Bucks basketball. Took them to games, bought jersey's, collected the bobble-heads. But when Game of Thrones came on last Sunday night? "Dad, can you watch the end of the game in the bedroom, we want to watch GoT?" And those words were uttered by my daughter who was a varsity BB player.

All of these wreckage took place during a 25-year period where the Packers did nothing but win, while having perhaps two of the top ten greatest QB's of that period on the roster. All I had to convince my kids to follow the Bucks was a Bradley Center with 5,600 in attendance and Yi tripping over his shoelaces.

Wasn't just the fans. I'd watch Tim Van Vooren, Rod Burks, Lance Allen, Stephanie Sutton, etc. only come to the BC on the nights Kobe was there. And once they did their first quarter remote shot, they'd leave the building.

Rome wasn't built in a day. There is a lot of rubble to clean up.

All of this can be true and it still kinda confirms my original statement that (right now) Milwaukee isn’t an NBA city. Maybe it was once and has the potential to be again, but it wasn’t as of last night. Hopefully it happens soon, as you predict. Sure feels like we’re taking a lot for granted though. Suddenly we’re “bored” by knocking off the kind of team we’ve always been till now? We should be chomping at the bit with round 2 finally on the horizon. Oakland is an NBA city. They were terrible for years (with terrible ownership) and the fans stayed ravenous. They didn’t wait till the WCF, they created an atmosphere that helped propel their team to greater heights.

[Oscar71]

Here's a questionnaire for you:
1) Do you feel that fans and the atmosphere they create is as important and enjoyable as the game itself, if not more?
2) As a fan have you ever felt like a participant rather than a spectator?
3) Do you understand that when the team plays like crap is exactly when they need more support from the crowd, not less?
4) Have you ever thought of the game as an opportunity to chant how you really feel about the team, the officials, the league?
5) Have you ever thought of the game as a competition between fanbases rather than a competition between teams?
6) Ever come back from a game happy because your fanbase kicks butt even though your team lost?
7) Does calling the game "a product" seem totally ridiculous to you because you never thought of yourself as a customer?

If you answered "yes" to most of those questions you're probably from Europe

No.
No.
Meh.
Yes
No
Never
No. It's entertainment. If you're concerned about Brands, Marketing, Etc... get a life....

[beyond_the_arc]

As a basketball fanatic, and a person who has been exposed to a **** ton, I found the overwhelming takes just ugly. Granted, I should have premised this with: Baby Boomer exposure. But, man, I couldn’t sell those people ( literally hundreds of them if not thousands over 15 years) on anything NBA related let alone the Bucks.

You guys are running where there isn't anything. Again, in the 1980's the Bucks ruled this city. People of all races, colors and creeds loved the team. My mother's biggest dream? Have Sidney Moncrief over for dinner. All the weekday games started at 8pm and didn't end many nights until past 11pm and no one cared. They stayed until the end. Thousands in MIddleton lined up to watch Nellie drive the tractor through town.

While Herb Kohl loved the team, he loved it to death. Need to look no closer than my own family. I spent a decade trying to get my kids hooked on Bucks basketball. Took them to games, bought jersey's, collected the bobble-heads. But when Game of Thrones came on last Sunday night? "Dad, can you watch the end of the game in the bedroom, we want to watch GoT?" And those words were uttered by my daughter who was a varsity BB player.

All of these wreckage took place during a 25-year period where the Packers did nothing but win, while having perhaps two of the top ten greatest QB's of that period on the roster. All I had to convince my kids to follow the Bucks was a Bradley Center with 5,600 in attendance and Yi tripping over his shoelaces.

Wasn't just the fans. I'd watch Tim Van Vooren, Rod Burks, Lance Allen, Stephanie Sutton, etc. only come to the BC on the nights Kobe was there. And once they did their first quarter remote shot, they'd leave the building.

Rome wasn't built in a day. There is a lot of rubble to clean up.

All of this can be true and it still kinda confirms my original statement that (right now) Milwaukee isn’t an NBA city. Maybe it was once and has the potential to be again, but it wasn’t as of last night. Hopefully it happens soon, as you predict. Sure feels like we’re taking a lot for granted though. Suddenly we’re “bored” by knocking off the kind of team we’ve always been till now? We should be chomping at the bit with round 2 finally on the horizon. Oakland is an NBA city. They were terrible for years (with terrible ownership) and the fans stayed ravenous. They didn’t wait till the WCF, they created an atmosphere that helped propel their team to greater heights.

Uhh, Oakland didn't give a **** about the Warriors after run TMC melted down. Literally zero buzz or crowd noise until after the renovations and uptick of "he have it all" and even then the atmosphere was nothing special. The only loud arena was Sacramento. At this point your claim that Milwaukee isn't a Bucks town is just as horse **** as people saying it isn't a baseball town 20 years ago. Winning changes everything.

[Zmac]

Here's a questionnaire for you:
1) Do you feel that fans and the atmosphere they create is as important and enjoyable as the game itself, if not more?
2) As a fan have you ever felt like a participant rather than a spectator?
3) Do you understand that when the team plays like crap is exactly when they need more support from the crowd, not less?
4) Have you ever thought of the game as an opportunity to chant how you really feel about the team, the officials, the league?
5) Have you ever thought of the game as a competition between fanbases rather than a competition between teams?
6) Ever come back from a game happy because your fanbase kicks butt even though your team lost?
7) Does calling the game "a product" seem totally ridiculous to you because you never thought of yourself as a customer?

If you answered "yes" to most of those questions you're probably from Europe

Man I'd say yes to most of these, except 6 that's a solid No, but the culture is really different in Europe. I love the fact that you can take your family to an NBA game but that's it.
The support for our local amateur soccer club even when they're playing like crap is a lot more passionate than most nba fan bases.
Hearing that people shush you at the arena is utterly ridiculous, the players can only benefit from their fans being loud.
I'll just leave this here :

Watch on YouTube

[MickeyDavis]

This thread started to go off the rails with personal insults and attacks. I cleaned it up. Keep on topic and do not attack each other. Thx

[MickeyDavis]

Can we talk about the MC? Seems like a cool dude but man he can kill the atmosphere sometimes. Especially before tip with the forced fear the deer. The BC would rock at the start when they didn't have someone screaming a chant nobody really wants to do.

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He's absolutely terrible. So is the other "host".

[MVP2110]

Honestly I think we are all overreacting. Anyone who was at those Raptors or Celtics series the last two years knows this city can get loud and intense. These are playoff games but they aren't really playoff games, everyone in the world knows we're winning this series

[DavidDunn21]

Also it's fair to say that this style of ball is boring. We've been trained to take the long view approach of not living and dying with every shot because "the math" should come out on our side by the end. It's a more passive way to consume the game.

[Chuck Diesel]

You guys are running where there isn't anything. Again, in the 1980's the Bucks ruled this city. People of all races, colors and creeds loved the team. My mother's biggest dream? Have Sidney Moncrief over for dinner. All the weekday games started at 8pm and didn't end many nights until past 11pm and no one cared. They stayed until the end. Thousands in MIddleton lined up to watch Nellie drive the tractor through town.

While Herb Kohl loved the team, he loved it to death. Need to look no closer than my own family. I spent a decade trying to get my kids hooked on Bucks basketball. Took them to games, bought jersey's, collected the bobble-heads. But when Game of Thrones came on last Sunday night? "Dad, can you watch the end of the game in the bedroom, we want to watch GoT?" And those words were uttered by my daughter who was a varsity BB player.

All of these wreckage took place during a 25-year period where the Packers did nothing but win, while having perhaps two of the top ten greatest QB's of that period on the roster. All I had to convince my kids to follow the Bucks was a Bradley Center with 5,600 in attendance and Yi tripping over his shoelaces.

Wasn't just the fans. I'd watch Tim Van Vooren, Rod Burks, Lance Allen, Stephanie Sutton, etc. only come to the BC on the nights Kobe was there. And once they did their first quarter remote shot, they'd leave the building.

Rome wasn't built in a day. There is a lot of rubble to clean up.

All of this can be true and it still kinda confirms my original statement that (right now) Milwaukee isn’t an NBA city. Maybe it was once and has the potential to be again, but it wasn’t as of last night. Hopefully it happens soon, as you predict. Sure feels like we’re taking a lot for granted though. Suddenly we’re “bored” by knocking off the kind of team we’ve always been till now? We should be chomping at the bit with round 2 finally on the horizon. Oakland is an NBA city. They were terrible for years (with terrible ownership) and the fans stayed ravenous. They didn’t wait till the WCF, they created an atmosphere that helped propel their team to greater heights.

Uhh, Oakland didn't give a **** about the Warriors after run TMC melted down. Literally zero buzz or crowd noise until after the renovations and uptick of "he have it all" and even then the atmosphere was nothing special. The only loud arena was Sacramento. At this point your claim that Milwaukee isn't a Bucks town is just as horse **** as people saying it isn't a baseball town 20 years ago. Winning changes everything.

Ok. They were hype for bad Monta/Troy Murphy trams and went bonkers from the tip in 07 after missing the playoffs for 13 years.