Hawks future, how excited are you?

[Buzzard]

The Braves are ahead of the Hawks. Acuna is a superstar. The Hawks dont have that kind of talent.

I have to disagree simply because it takes so many players in baseball to compete with the best of the best. The Falcons have proven they could in the recent past but losses on defense are costing them. They still have a top 10 offense and just need to shore up a diminishing D.

To get a better understanding of what I mean when it comes to baseball, we only need to look at Mike Trout. He has been about as close to the MJ of baseball as there is in recent years, yet the Angels just flounder every season.

The Hawks need more help; but in the NBA, three All-Stars puts you in top 5 to 10 air. I think we are very close to being only one player shy of that.

[jayu70]

It's a great time for Atlanta sports - all teams have buzz around them.

[REHawksFan]

It's a great time for Atlanta sports - all teams have buzz around them.

Agree with the Hawks and Braves (although their lack of spending is neutering the excitement, imo) but not sure I agree with the Falcons. Where is the buzz? I'm not seeing or hearing any more than the normal excitement about the draft and questioning about whether they can stay healthy.

[peoriabird]

The Braves have to find a manager...No way Culberson and Camargo should sit in favor of Inciarte and Donalson all of the time. And why does Snitger not like Parson and Tussaint but loves Sabotka and Minter? Thank God the front office stepped in on Venters.

[Buzzard]

It's a great time for Atlanta sports - all teams have buzz around them.

Agree with the Hawks and Braves (although their lack of spending is neutering the excitement, imo) but not sure I agree with the Falcons. Where is the buzz? I'm not seeing or hearing any more than the normal excitement about the draft and questioning about whether they can stay healthy.

Quinn taking over the D, jury out on that and that is the biggest weakness. Two not so exciting seasons in the row for the Falcons but they will be sold out. Middle of the season if things are rolling along, the Falcons buzz will return.

[observer1995]

The Braves have to find a manager...No way Culberson and Camargo should sit in favor of Inciarte and Donalson all of the time. And why does Snitger not like Parson and Tussaint but loves Sabotka and Minter? Thank God the front office stepped in on Venters.

I don't think you realize that Toussaint pitched his way into starting a game in Cleveland (like bruh if you're not casual you know he's starting in one of the games tomorrow), and in fact, many of us said that when we saw what was going on vs the Mets. If he returns to the bullpen when Folty makes his return instead of going down (or Soroka going down), which is possible, you're going to continue to be ticked at his usage, as they've been extra careful with former SP usage out of the pen, which is why Parsons isn't being used as much as you'd hope he'd be.

Camargo is also not better than Donaldson and Culberson? lol

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/johan-camargo-622666?stats=career-r-hitting-mlb
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/josh-donaldson-518626?stats=career-r-hitting-mlb
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/charlie-culberson-518586?stats=career-r-hitting-mlb

I know, your next comment will be I don't give a sh*t about what the stats are supposed to be and I care more about what I see happening on the field...save it on that comment, I don't care. It's not good business to go in on a guy being lucky and not good. I buy Camargo more as he's done it for longer but I absolutely DON'T buy Culberson.

[peoriabird]

Camargo is also not better than Donaldson and Culberson? lol

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/johan-camargo-622666?stats=career-r-hitting-mlb
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/josh-donaldson-518626?stats=career-r-hitting-mlb
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/charlie-culberson-518586?stats=career-r-hitting-mlb

I know, your next comment will be I don't give a sh*t about what the stats are supposed to be and I care more about what I see happening on the field...save it on that comment, I don't care. It's not good business to go in on a guy being lucky and not good. I buy Camargo more as he's done it for longer but I absolutely DON'T buy Culberson.

Donaldson and Inciarte have 5 RBI's between them. Camargo has twice as many and even Culberson has 5 in 8 at bats. Both Donaldson and Inciarte are rally killers so at least rotate the guys that are hitting in more often.

Toussant has only appeared in 1 game all season long...Venters 6, Era 20 Minter 7 Era 8 and Sobotka 9 Era 12. What took so long?? Plus this manager always pulls his starters way too early!

[observer1995]

Camargo is also not better than Donaldson and Culberson? lol

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/johan-camargo-622666?stats=career-r-hitting-mlb
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/josh-donaldson-518626?stats=career-r-hitting-mlb
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/charlie-culberson-518586?stats=career-r-hitting-mlb

I know, your next comment will be I don't give a sh*t about what the stats are supposed to be and I care more about what I see happening on the field...save it on that comment, I don't care. It's not good business to go in on a guy being lucky and not good. I buy Camargo more as he's done it for longer but I absolutely DON'T buy Culberson.

Donaldson and Inciarte have 5 RBI's between them. Camargo has twice as many and even Culberson has 5 in 8 at bats. Both Donaldson and Inciarte are rally killers so at least rotate the guys that are hitting in more often.

Toussant has only appeared in 1 game all season long...Venters 6, Era 20 Minter 7 Era 8 and Sobotka 9 Era 12. What took so long?? Plus this manager always pulls his starters way too early!

Measuring hitters by their clutchness. I'm sure glad that you aren't someone that works in the Braves front office. That is an absolutely horrible idea. You can't measure by clutchness because you don't know when the "clutch" runs out.

NO front office in Major League Baseball is going to measure by how clutch a batter is.

[peoriabird]

Measuring hitters by their clutchness. I'm sure glad that you aren't someone that works in the Braves front office. That is an absolutely horrible idea. You can't measure by clutchness because you don't know when the "clutch" runs out.

NO front office in Major League Baseball is going to measure by how clutch a batter is.

Baseball does measure batting average in scoring position. Donaldson and Inciarte are terrible with runners in scoring position

By Situation AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS

Runners On 20 10 3 2 0 0 1 5 0 11 0 0 .150 .320 .250 .570
Scoring Position7 9 1 0 0 0 1 3 0 3 0 0 .143 .400 .143 .543 Donaldson
Bases Loaded 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000


Runners On 17 4 2 0 0 0 1 2 0 5 2 1 .118 .211 .118 .329
Scoring Position14 3 2 0 0 0 1 2 0 5 0 0 .143 .250 .143 .393 Inciarte
Bases Loaded 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000

[peoriabird]

Measuring hitters by their clutchness. I'm sure glad that you aren't someone that works in the Braves front office. That is an absolutely horrible idea. You can't measure by clutchness because you don't know when the "clutch" runs out.

NO front office in Major League Baseball is going to measure by how clutch a batter is.

Baseball does measure batting average in scoring position. Donaldson and Inciarte are terrible with runners in scoring position

By Situation AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS

Runners On 20 10 3 2 0 0 1 5 0 11 0 0 .150 .320 .250 .570
Scoring Position7 9 1 0 0 0 1 3 0 3 0 0 .143 .400 .143 .543 Donaldson
Bases Loaded 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000


Runners On 17 4 2 0 0 0 1 2 0 5 2 1 .118 .211 .118 .329
Scoring Position14 3 2 0 0 0 1 2 0 5 0 0 .143 .250 .143 .393 Inciarte
Bases Loaded 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000

Both hit .143 with men in scoring position

[observer1995]

Measuring hitters by their clutchness. I'm sure glad that you aren't someone that works in the Braves front office. That is an absolutely horrible idea. You can't measure by clutchness because you don't know when the "clutch" runs out.

NO front office in Major League Baseball is going to measure by how clutch a batter is.

Baseball does measure batting average in scoring position. Donaldson and Inciarte are terrible with runners in scoring position

By Situation AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS

Runners On 20 10 3 2 0 0 1 5 0 11 0 0 .150 .320 .250 .570
Scoring Position7 9 1 0 0 0 1 3 0 3 0 0 .143 .400 .143 .543 Donaldson
Bases Loaded 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000


Runners On 17 4 2 0 0 0 1 2 0 5 2 1 .118 .211 .118 .329
Scoring Position14 3 2 0 0 0 1 2 0 5 0 0 .143 .250 .143 .393 Inciarte
Bases Loaded 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000

I didn't mean it was not measured silly, I mean no FRONT OFFICE and heck no team is going to make bench or play decisions over Bobby or Jimmy is bad at batting in runs. It's pure stupidity to make your decisions about who to play over how great they are about hitting with RISP because what if that CLUTCHNESS runs out when you're playing them more over that? The "he's just more clutch than others deal" does not exist. Sorry, but it's true. Ability with RISP ebbs and flows with ALL players.

Complain about the Braves front office if you don't like Camargo and Culberson not being everyday players, not about Snitker. As it's on them and NOT Snitker. But I'm telling you, Culberson would most likely suck if exposed more. In more playing time, he was sooooo soooooo lucky and absolutely NOT good last year.

[peoriabird]

Measuring hitters by their clutchness. I'm sure glad that you aren't someone that works in the Braves front office. That is an absolutely horrible idea. You can't measure by clutchness because you don't know when the "clutch" runs out.

NO front office in Major League Baseball is going to measure by how clutch a batter is.

Baseball does measure batting average in scoring position. Donaldson and Inciarte are terrible with runners in scoring position

By Situation AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS

Runners On 20 10 3 2 0 0 1 5 0 11 0 0 .150 .320 .250 .570
Scoring Position7 9 1 0 0 0 1 3 0 3 0 0 .143 .400 .143 .543 Donaldson
Bases Loaded 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000


Runners On 17 4 2 0 0 0 1 2 0 5 2 1 .118 .211 .118 .329
Scoring Position14 3 2 0 0 0 1 2 0 5 0 0 .143 .250 .143 .393 Inciarte
Bases Loaded 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000

I didn't mean it was not measured silly, I mean no FRONT OFFICE and heck no team is going to make bench or play decisions over Bobby or Jimmy is bad at batting in runs. It's pure stupidity to make your decisions about who to play over how great they are about hitting with RISP because what if that CLUTCHNESS runs out when you're playing them more over that? The "he's just more clutch than others deal" does not exist. Sorry, but it's true. Ability with RISP ebbs and flows with ALL players.

Complain about the Braves front office if you don't like Camargo and Culberson not being everyday players, not about Snitker. As it's on them and NOT Snitker. But I'm telling you, Culberson would most likely suck if exposed more. In more playing time, he was sooooo soooooo lucky and absolutely NOT good last year.

He not only plays Inciarte and Donaldson everyday but he has Donaldson batting 2nd! and at one point had Inciarte leading off. He barely uses Culberson off the bench and rather use Joyce. Those are managerial decisions, not front office decisions

[observer1995]

Baseball does measure batting average in scoring position. Donaldson and Inciarte are terrible with runners in scoring position

By Situation AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS

Runners On 20 10 3 2 0 0 1 5 0 11 0 0 .150 .320 .250 .570
Scoring Position7 9 1 0 0 0 1 3 0 3 0 0 .143 .400 .143 .543 Donaldson
Bases Loaded 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000


Runners On 17 4 2 0 0 0 1 2 0 5 2 1 .118 .211 .118 .329
Scoring Position14 3 2 0 0 0 1 2 0 5 0 0 .143 .250 .143 .393 Inciarte
Bases Loaded 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000

I didn't mean it was not measured silly, I mean no FRONT OFFICE and heck no team is going to make bench or play decisions over Bobby or Jimmy is bad at batting in runs. It's pure stupidity to make your decisions about who to play over how great they are about hitting with RISP because what if that CLUTCHNESS runs out when you're playing them more over that? The "he's just more clutch than others deal" does not exist. Sorry, but it's true. Ability with RISP ebbs and flows with ALL players.

Complain about the Braves front office if you don't like Camargo and Culberson not being everyday players, not about Snitker. As it's on them and NOT Snitker. But I'm telling you, Culberson would most likely suck if exposed more. In more playing time, he was sooooo soooooo lucky and absolutely NOT good last year.

He not only plays Inciarte and Donaldson everyday but he has Donaldson batting 2nd! and at one point had Inciarte leading off. He barely uses Culberson off the bench and rather use Joyce. Those are managerial decisions, not front office decisions

I just think that if Snitker were to sit Donaldson more than every now and again he'd be hearing it from Alex. That deal here goes right up to him so you need to whine about Alex and not Snitker there. Snitker actually isn't a big fan of Inciarte's attitude based off of rumors and over at a chat we think he batted him lead off again to feed his ego and not for good reason. We call him a "diva" over at that chat.