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Post#4861 » by Lateral Quicks » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:47 pm

Schad wrote:Alejandro Kirk is shredding baseballs in Lansing; 3 for 4 with a HR and double thus far tonight. Now, Lansing is the sort of place people do that, but he's quickly becoming a really interesting prospect.


His nickname has to be "Captain", right? If not, we ought to "make it so".

This guy hits for power and has a career BB/K ratio of 39:24. I'm definitely intrigued. I'd love to see him in Dunedin this year.
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Post#4862 » by BigLeagueChew » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:18 pm

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Post#4863 » by Schad » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:34 am

Riley Adams is off to a nice start, as well. 3rd rounder in 2017, power was supposed to be his calling card as an offensive-minded catcher, but it hasn't really been present yet. He's making contact, though, so that's nice.

On the other side of the coin, there's Hagen Danner. Danner hit his 4th HR of the season today. Earlier in the game, he hit a triple. The triple was the first non-HR hit he'd managed on the year...he currently has a batting average of .161, and a slugging percentage of .613.
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Post#4864 » by dagger » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:15 pm

Schad wrote:Riley Adams is off to a nice start, as well. 3rd rounder in 2017, power was supposed to be his calling card as an offensive-minded catcher, but it hasn't really been present yet. He's making contact, though, so that's nice.

On the other side of the coin, there's Hagen Danner. Danner hit his 4th HR of the season today. Earlier in the game, he hit a triple. The triple was the first non-HR hit he'd managed on the year...he currently has a batting average of .161, and a slugging percentage of .613.


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Post#4865 » by Schad » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:08 pm

SRF is struggling right now in the same way that the Hindenburg had a rough landing.
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Post#4866 » by vaff87 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:27 am

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Post#4867 » by vaff87 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:50 am

One guy in Lansing that I’ve never really heard anyone talk about is Otto Lopez. SS, 20 years old, hits for average, gets on base, and walks more than he strikes out.
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Post#4868 » by Schad » Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:55 am

vaff87 wrote:One guy in Lansing that I’ve never really heard anyone talk about is Otto Lopez. SS, 20 years old, hits for average, gets on base, and walks more than he strikes out.


He's definitely not-not a prospect. THE BOARD! had his 32nd in the system, and I'd imagine he's just off our top 30 in MLBPipeline. Hit well last year, and the Jays have been grooming him as a superutility player: he was a LF/CF/RF/2B/SS/3B last year (in no particular order), and we'll probably continue moving him around so long as he can handle those positions. Could well be one of those guys that never really captures the imagination, but carves out a career.
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Post#4869 » by SharoneWright » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:33 am

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vaff87 wrote:One guy in Lansing that I’ve never really heard anyone talk about is Otto Lopez. SS, 20 years old, hits for average, gets on base, and walks more than he strikes out.


He's definitely not-not a prospect. THE BOARD! had his 32nd in the system, and I'd imagine he's just off our top 30 in MLBPipeline. Hit well last year, and the Jays have been grooming him as a superutility player: he was a LF/CF/RF/2B/SS/3B last year (in no particular order), and we'll probably continue moving him around so long as he can handle those positions. Could well be one of those guys that never really captures the imagination, but carves out a career.


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Post#4870 » by Schad » Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:18 am

The Kirk/Groshans sector of the order in Lansing's still doing rather well:

Kirk: .318/.436/.545, 2 HR, 10:3 BB:K.
Groshans: .364/.451/.523, 1 HR, 7:10 BB:K.
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Post#4871 » by polo007 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:15 pm

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Dalton Pompey has been put through the wringer over the last four years. After sustaining three concussions since 2016, undergoing numerous false starts and suffering from bad luck in general, nobody in the Blue Jays organization has endured more misfortune than Pompey.

Ever since he broke camp as the Blue Jays starting centre fielder at the beginning of the 2015 season, he’s struggled to find his within the organization. In retrospect, it may have been too much too soon for Pompey in April of 2015, but it sounds like his teammates weren’t exactly the best support system for a struggling rookie of his ilk.

Stephen Brunt mentioned this every-so-briefly last week during Prime Time Sports (hat tip to @QuadAPlayer for catching this). The subject was broached as part of a discussion with ESPN’s Jeff Passan about whether rushing prospects to the Major Leagues too quickly can stunt their development. Pompey was posed as the prime example.

Unbeknownst to just about everybody, Brunt revealed that Pompey was the subject of ridicule by his own teammates in early 2015.

“I can tell you that he was a deer in the headlights. He was bullied in the clubhouse and because of it, left here in shock and never came back, really.”


This is extremely disappointing for any number of reasons. It’s 2019 and this type of behaviour shouldn’t be tolerated in any work environment, let alone an atmosphere which is traditionally saturated with toxic masculinity.
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Post#4872 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:53 pm

Well that speaks poorly of the Jays clubhouse and leadership at the time.
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Post#4873 » by Schad » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:58 pm

I don't think it's a complete secret that some of our better players were also rather much douchebags, but it definitely doesn't reflect well on management or the players.
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Post#4874 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:14 pm

Schad wrote:I don't think it's a complete secret that some of our better players were also rather much douchebags, but it definitely doesn't reflect well on management or the players.


I mean, Donaldson is absolutely that guy, but where were Jose or EE? Smoak? Russell Martin and RA Dickey? Marco Estrada?
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Post#4875 » by Schad » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:25 pm

Donaldson is absolutely that guy. I'm not sure that Bautista wasn't that guy, either, though. Have zero definite on that, but some of our media guys seemed to like to hint around that leadership and mentoring weren't his strong suit.
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Post#4876 » by Al_Oliver » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:28 pm

Schad wrote:Donaldson is absolutely that guy. I'm not sure that Bautista wasn't that guy, either, though. Have zero definite on that, but some of our media guys seemed to like to hint around that leadership and mentoring weren't his strong suit.


Hopefully it was only Steve Simmons alluding to Bautista that way after his online evisceration...
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Post#4877 » by Schad » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:37 pm

Yeah, I don't really remember. And honestly, if it was just a case where he was a baseball man who did baseball things and left everyone else to their own devices, that's more than sufficient in my eyes; leadership's a bonus, and I'd rather have players who are good at baseball than strong clubhouse figures. The Cult of the Gud Pro bleeds over from our hockey media a tad much...bullying is a wholly different matter, though.
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Post#4878 » by Lateral Quicks » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:11 pm

Bautista was a jerk on the field... wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was a jerk in the clubhouse.

I always thought the Pompey demotion was premature. I wonder if this bullying had something to do with it. If so, you have to wonder how Pompey's career might have turned out differently. What a shame either way.
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Post#4879 » by dagger » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:12 pm

Schad wrote:Donaldson is absolutely that guy. I'm not sure that Bautista wasn't that guy, either, though. Have zero definite on that, but some of our media guys seemed to like to hint around that leadership and mentoring weren't his strong suit.


It also justifies getting rid of Gibbons who was kind of an old school boys-will-be-boys type and bringing in a manager who would be more tolerant of a young player's tender psyche and mistakes. There is no way Gibbons would have been the right guy for the situation the Jays are now in, and the more distant his memory becomes, the stronger I feel about that.
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Post#4880 » by vaff87 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:43 pm

Who’s to say this is even true? Could just be the Canadian media trying to make excuses for the Canadian player, or any number of things.

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