2020 NBA Draft

[BostonCouchGM]

Probably keep the pick in 2020, it's early but it looks like a weak class at the top but kinda even and deep, so if you are theoretically getting a similar pick in the top10, you have a better shot at high end talent next year

Obv, barring getting the 1st pick this year, which trumps that

2020 reminds me of 2017, not in a good way

What was bad about 2017?

What was good? No legit #1 prospect level talent, deep draft but pretty weak upside, it was an average to below average class

2017 and 2018 are top 5 draft classes of all time. This might not be the hobby for you if you aren't trolling and actually believe it's a weak class.

[Funcrusher]

What was bad about 2017?

What was good? No legit #1 prospect level talent, deep draft but pretty weak upside, it was an average to below average class

2017 and 2018 are top 5 draft classes of all time. This might not be the hobby for you if you aren't trolling and actually believe it's a weak class.

2017

top 5 draft class of all time

[Feel_the_Heat15]

That's a weak draft?

Yeah man, no franchise level player at all (I had Fultz 1# like most that year but he was quite clearly not on AD's level or traditional nº1 type level either), pre or post draft really, solid depth (which its a strength but not as important) but a bunch of the dudes you mention are straight up bad/not valuable

That draft has;

Donovan Mitchell
Jayson Tatum

2-way studs that are scalable and likely peak at 2nd banana levels in a contender at most

De'Aaron Fox

really good player but also pretty flawed, hard to see him been good enough as the primary to get a team to high end status, and he has major warts to operate off-ball even if his shooting has improved, also can't switch and condemns your D to been solely traditional

Lauri Markkanen

can't create but will always help teams on offense, probably neutral at best on defense

after those, the best of the rest are guys like Isaac, Ball, White, ZCollins, and maybe maybe, Bam, Allen, Giles, Bell, Bolden, Dotson, SBrown, Wilson, Anunoby, Ferguson, Morris,... who look to be the part as rotation pieces and 2-way guys, but with no high ceiling whatsoever, and the likes of JCollins, Kuzma, Hart, maybe Monk, DSJ, Kennard, Brooks, Bryant, Hartenstein,... who are mainly one way guys (only offense) who are also flawed and at best might be rotation players also with very little hope to be real studs

Like I said, solid depth, but the top of the class is pretty bad, the 2nd worst in this decade after 2016 for example

Bam Adebayo is so underrated it's ridiculous. No high ceiling what so ever? He's one of if not the best defender out of that class.

[916fan]

That's a weak draft?

Yeah man, no franchise level player at all (I had Fultz 1# like most that year but he was quite clearly not on AD's level or traditional nº1 type level either), pre or post draft really, solid depth (which its a strength but not as important) but a bunch of the dudes you mention are straight up bad/not valuable

That draft has;

Donovan Mitchell
Jayson Tatum

2-way studs that are scalable and likely peak at 2nd banana levels in a contender at most

De'Aaron Fox

really good player but also pretty flawed, hard to see him been good enough as the primary to get a team to high end status, and he has major warts to operate off-ball even if his shooting has improved, also can't switch and condemns your D to been solely traditional

Lauri Markkanen

can't create but will always help teams on offense, probably neutral at best on defense

after those, the best of the rest are guys like Isaac, Ball, White, ZCollins, and maybe maybe, Bam, Allen, Giles, Bell, Bolden, Dotson, SBrown, Wilson, Anunoby, Ferguson, Morris,... who look to be the part as rotation pieces and 2-way guys, but with no high ceiling whatsoever, and the likes of JCollins, Kuzma, Hart, maybe Monk, DSJ, Kennard, Brooks, Bryant, Hartenstein,... who are mainly one way guys (only offense) who are also flawed and at best might be rotation players also with very little hope to be real studs

Like I said, solid depth, but the top of the class is pretty bad, the 2nd worst in this decade after 2016 for example

Bam Adebayo is so underrated it's ridiculous. No high ceiling what so ever? He's one of if not the best defender out of that class.

I've only seen people from this forum that think that 2017 is a weak draft... so I think it's a very minor opinion. Bam is underrated, but I think it's only because there's such an influx of very solid players in 2017 with guys like Mitchell, Fox, and Tatum taking up all of the shine. Bam just gets lost in the mix for everyone.

If 2020 is anything like 2017, it could be a strong draft. I think we realistically have to wait 1 more year before we can discuss it more in depth.

[Worst_to_First]

James Wiseman all the way!

[King Ken]

That's a weak draft?

Yeah man, no franchise level player at all (I had Fultz 1# like most that year but he was quite clearly not on AD's level or traditional nº1 type level either), pre or post draft really, solid depth (which its a strength but not as important) but a bunch of the dudes you mention are straight up bad/not valuable

That draft has;

Donovan Mitchell
Jayson Tatum

2-way studs that are scalable and likely peak at 2nd banana levels in a contender at most

De'Aaron Fox

really good player but also pretty flawed, hard to see him been good enough as the primary to get a team to high end status, and he has major warts to operate off-ball even if his shooting has improved, also can't switch and condemns your D to been solely traditional

Lauri Markkanen

can't create but will always help teams on offense, probably neutral at best on defense

after those, the best of the rest are guys like Isaac, Ball, White, ZCollins, and maybe maybe, Bam, Allen, Giles, Bell, Bolden, Dotson, SBrown, Wilson, Anunoby, Ferguson, Morris,... who look to be the part as rotation pieces and 2-way guys, but with no high ceiling whatsoever, and the likes of JCollins, Kuzma, Hart, maybe Monk, DSJ, Kennard, Brooks, Bryant, Hartenstein,... who are mainly one way guys (only offense) who are also flawed and at best might be rotation players also with very little hope to be real studs

Like I said, solid depth, but the top of the class is pretty bad, the 2nd worst in this decade after 2016 for example

It's one things to posts badly in the draft board because here, there is no low quality posts as everyone is entitled to an opinion but in regards to the 2017 NBA draft class where they are already in the NBA, this is pretty low quality posting.

[Ball4life32]

John Collins 1.7 blocks per game in the last 14 games this year. 1.9 DBPM as a 20 year old rookie.

Averaged 20 and 10 on elite efficiency in less than 30 minutes per game at 21 years old. (never been done before in nba history). Only Shaq shot a higher % from the floor than Collins averaging at least 20 and 10 in their second season.

But yes I somehow hope he turns into at least a rotation player!

[King Ken]

John Collins 1.7 blocks per game in the last 14 games this year. 1.9 DBPM as a 20 year old rookie.

Averaged 20 and 10 on elite efficiency in less than 30 minutes per game at 21 years old. (never been done before in nba history). Only Shaq shot a higher % from the floor than Collins averaging at least 20 and 10 in their second season.

But yes I somehow hope he turns into at least a rotation player!

He made a horrible post. I am not sure as to why? I guess he is thinking about it from Dallas POV and bombing on Smith Jr. He should have just said Dallas had a bad draft, not that it was a bad draft

[clyde21]

some names returning to school for sure so far:

Ochai Agbaji
Udoka Azubuike
Tyler Bey
Jordan Bowden
Ayo Dosunmu
Ashton Hagans
Tyrese Haliburton
Markus Howard
Tre Jones
Aaron Nesmith
Filip Petrusev
Immanuel Quickley
Chris Smith
Jalen Smith
John Teske
Aaron Wiggins
Cassius Winston

[Chuck Everett]

Wiggins, Aaron has some skills and size for a wing.

[KobesScarf]

I like Cole Anthony and Lamelo

[isiah_thomas]

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[Duke4life831]

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I hate seeing it as a Duke fan. But this dude is legit elite. Love him as a prospect.

[clyde21]

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I hate seeing it as a Duke fan. But this dude is legit elite. Love him as a prospect.

where would you rank him for this draft if he were in it?

[Duke4life831]

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I hate seeing it as a Duke fan. But this dude is legit elite. Love him as a prospect.

where would you rank him for this draft if he were in it?

I would take him #2 without any hesitation. If Cole was in this draft, I wouldn't be heartbroken if my team ended up with the #2 pick. Don't get my wrong he is no Zion, but damn he is great value at the #2 pick. I think he's going to be Kyrie level good.

[No-Man]

He is way more awkward as a shooter than Kyrie who also has god touch, Cole is kinda like Walmart Kyrie

[clyde21]

looking at the next year's crop I don't see a clear #1 guy yet...maybe it's Anthony Edwards from the early stuff I've seen but Power has me rethinking him a bit if what he's saying about is true in regards to his motor/work ethic.

Cole is on the smaller side and is not really a pure shooter which I feel like you have to be when you're that size but there's still a lot more room for growth in this area so we'll see.

[clyde21]

I think Cole is on the Garland level as a prospect

[Duke4life831]

looking at the next year's crop I don't see a clear #1 guy yet...maybe it's Anthony Edwards from the early stuff I've seen but Power has me rethinking him a bit if what he's saying about is true in regards to his motor/work ethic.

Cole is on the smaller side and is not really a pure shooter which I feel like you have to be when you're that size but there's still a lot more room for growth in this area so we'll see.

I don't question his shooting at all. 37% last year in high school, 38% at EYBL and Peach Jam, plus he shot 89% from the line in those events and 86% for his high school season.

His form is a little stiff but give him a few years in the NBA and I think it will become a little more fluid. I love his 3pt shooting, his shooting off the dribble, has a great floater and a great mix of strength/explosion/touch around the rim.

I think he's next in line of the Kyrie/Lillard score first PGs who are okay passers and subpar defenders. But the elite scoring is just too much to pass up.

[clyde21]

looking at the next year's crop I don't see a clear #1 guy yet...maybe it's Anthony Edwards from the early stuff I've seen but Power has me rethinking him a bit if what he's saying about is true in regards to his motor/work ethic.

Cole is on the smaller side and is not really a pure shooter which I feel like you have to be when you're that size but there's still a lot more room for growth in this area so we'll see.

I don't question his shooting at all. 37% last year in high school, 38% at EYBL and Peach Jam, plus he shot 89% from the line in those events and 86% for his high school season.

His form is a little stiff but give him a few years in the NBA and I think it will become a little more fluid. I love his 3pt shooting, his shooting off the dribble, has a great floater and a great mix of strength/explosion/touch around the rim.

I think he's next in line of the Kyrie/Lillard score first PGs who are okay passers and subpar defenders. But the elite scoring is just too much to pass up.

it's a wait and see for me, and I against I haven't watched much of the HS prospects so these are all pretty early views. I don't think he's nearly as quick twitch as Kyrie though and not as big/explosive as Damian, but I'll take your word for it at this point.