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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#701 » by Badgerlander » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:08 pm

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Could be Bryn Forbes with handles


I'd be careful with comps like these. Forbes with handles is a really good NBA player. It's more likely than not that he's not an NBA player.


Because you don’t like comps but really Bryn Forbes not on the spurs probably isn’t an nba player
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#702 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:19 pm

Bryn Forbes is just Gary Neal minus the massive douchebag attitude.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#703 » by Frank Nova » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:39 pm

All in on Jalen Lecque now that he declared. Seems like a perfect late 1st round pick and someone to back up Bledsoe for the forseeable future. Lecque needs to work on his jumper but his athleticism is off the charts and hes a confident player that could really blossom under Giannis and Bledsoe.

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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#704 » by mattg » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:48 pm

Frank Nova wrote:All in on Jalen Lecque now that he declared. Seems like a perfect late 1st round pick and someone to back up Bledsoe for the forseeable future. Lecque needs to work on his jumper but his athleticism is off the charts and hes a confident player that could really blossom under Giannis and Bledsoe.

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There’s zero chance lecque is ready to play an nba minute for a good team for at least 2 years. He’s literally a handle and athleticism and that's it right now while being an unbelievably terrible shooter. Is he even a better prospect than Duval in any case?
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#705 » by Frank Nova » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:56 pm

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Frank Nova wrote:All in on Jalen Lecque now that he declared. Seems like a perfect late 1st round pick and someone to back up Bledsoe for the forseeable future. Lecque needs to work on his jumper but his athleticism is off the charts and hes a confident player that could really blossom under Giannis and Bledsoe.

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There’s zero chance lecque is ready to play an nba minute for a good team for at least 2 years. He’s literally a handle and athleticism and that's it right now while being an unbelievably terrible shooter. Is he even a better prospect than Duval in any case?
Didnt mention once about him playing right away. Wouldnt even want him playing right away. With Giannis and Bledsoe, MKE is the perfect place for a raw prospect with off the chart athleticism and incredible feel for the game to learn from and get on the same workout program.

And yes I would say hes a better prospect than Duvall was.

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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#706 » by mattg » Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:08 am

We just look at the kid drastically differently. Like you view him as having great feel for the game where I see literally the exact opposite in that regard. To me, he basically sucks.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#707 » by RiotPunch » Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:25 am

Yeah, I gave Lecque a fair shot, but count me out.

He's a gifted athlete, but I don't see the insane, generational leaper that some are making him out to be. He's bouncy though, has some handles, pretty decent driving to the cup, provides some good help defense, but that's literally it. He fixates too much on the basket on offense and on the big steal/block on defense, which isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as you also exhibit good vision and feel, which I don't see from him at all.

Classic big-time athlete, small-time basketball player trap that I refuse to fall into again.

EDIT: He could also figure it out and be a good player, there's enough to work with that it is possible, for sure. Ultimately, too rich a project for my blood.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#708 » by emunney » Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:52 am

He looks like a great athlete to me and I have no idea how to evaluate him as a player.
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Post#709 » by Chuck Diesel » Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:06 pm

A ton of internationals are declaring. I wonder what the likelihood is we stash someone to maximize spots for ring chasers. Might be nice to have a rookie coming over the year we’re without a pick.
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Post#710 » by bizarro » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:29 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:A ton of internationals are declaring. I wonder what the likelihood is we stash someone to maximize spots for ring chasers. Might be nice to have a rookie coming over the year we’re without a pick.


Now is the time to Stash. As you point out, there is a gluttony of internationals. Nab some UDFA's for the Herd. Get some ring chasers. Make proper re-ups. Chase the ring for a second year. Amazing time to be a Bucks fan.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#711 » by RiotPunch » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:15 am

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Chuck Diesel wrote:A ton of internationals are declaring. I wonder what the likelihood is we stash someone to maximize spots for ring chasers. Might be nice to have a rookie coming over the year we’re without a pick.


Now is the time to Stash. As you point out, there is a gluttony of internationals. Nab some UDFA's for the Herd. Get some ring chasers. Make proper re-ups. Chase the ring for a second year. Amazing time to be a Bucks fan.

Is there an international prospect declaration list anywhere? Any sense of who will come over right away or who is under contract and likely to be a 'stash'?
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#712 » by drone3 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:53 am

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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#713 » by Ruzious » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:24 pm

I'm leaning toward picking Killian Tillie. Thought he was a bit under-used in his career and his injury obviously hurt, but he made 47% of his 3's for his college career, and he's decent on defense and rebounding - and passes well. It looked like he added some needed bulk when he came back late in the season, and I got the feeling he wasn't 100% healthy - so maybe we haven't seen the best he can be. I see a lot of similarities to Ersan.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#714 » by bizarro » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:18 am

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Chuck Diesel wrote:A ton of internationals are declaring. I wonder what the likelihood is we stash someone to maximize spots for ring chasers. Might be nice to have a rookie coming over the year we’re without a pick.


Now is the time to Stash. As you point out, there is a gluttony of internationals. Nab some UDFA's for the Herd. Get some ring chasers. Make proper re-ups. Chase the ring for a second year. Amazing time to be a Bucks fan.

Is there an international prospect declaration list anywhere? Any sense of who will come over right away or who is under contract and likely to be a 'stash'?



As of yesterday

International Early Entrants:

Dikembe Andre, C, Brazil (born 1999) (Twitter link via ESPN’s Jonathan Givony)
Kevin Cham, G, France (born 1998) (Twitter link via Givony)
Leo Cizmic, F, Croatia (born 1998) (Twitter link via Givony)
Digue Diawara, F, France (born 1998) (Twitter link via Givony)
Nenad Dimitrijevic, G, Macedonia (born 1998) (Twitter link via Givony)
Felipe Dos Anjos, C, Brazil (born 1998) (Twitter link via Givony)
Yago Mateus Dos Santos, G, Brazil (born 1999) (link via Cancha Latina)
Paul Eboua, F, Cameroon (born 2000) (Twitter link via Givony)
Osas Ehigiator, C, Spain (born 1999) (Twitter link via Givony)
Biram Faye, F, Senegal (born 2000) (Twitter link via Givony)
Ivan Fevrier, F, France (born 1999) (Twitter link via Givony)
Aleix Font, G/F, Spain (born 1998) (Twitter link via Givony)
Kadre Gray, G, Laurentian (Canada) (junior) (Twitter link via Barry Hayes)
Lukasz Kolenda, G, Poland (born 1999) (Twitter link via Givony)
Muhaymin Mustafa, G, Turkey (born 1999) (Twitter link via Givony)
Joshua Obiesie, G, Germany (born 2000) (Twitter link via Givony)
Note: Obiesie is the No. 46 prospect on Givony’s big board.
Zoran Paunovic, G, Serbia (born 2000) (Twitter link via Givony)
Dino Radoncic, F, Montenegro (born 1999) (Twitter link via Givony)
Sander Raieste, F, Estonia (born 1999) (Twitter link via Givony)
Neal Sako, C, France (born 1998) (Twitter link via Givony)
Luka Samanic, F, Croatia (born 2000) (Twitter link via Givony)
Note: Samanic is the No. 39 prospect on Givony’s big board.
Njegos Sikiras, F, Bosnia (born 1999) (Twitter link via Givony)
Borisa Simanic, F, Serbia (born 1998) (Twitter link via agent Misko Raznatovic)
Khadim Sow, C, Senegal (born 1999) (Twitter link via Givony)
Michael Uchendu, C, Brazil (born 1998) (Twitter link via Givony)
Bastien Vautier, C, France (born 1998) (Twitter link via Givony)
Warren Woghiren, C, France (born 1998) (Twitter link via Givony)
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#715 » by bizarro » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:21 am

Complete International Early Entrants:

International Early Entrants:
Dikembe Andre, C, Brazil (born 1999)
Darko Bajo, F, Croatia (born 1999)
Aleksander Balcerowski, C, Poland (born 2000)
Goga Bitadze, C, Georgia (born 1999)
Vrenz Bleijenbergh, F, Belgium (born 2000)
Ognjen Carapic, G, Montenegro (born 1998)
Kevin Cham, G, France (born 1998)
Leo Cizmic, F, Croatia (born 1998)
Digue Diawara, F, France (born 1998)
Nenad Dimitrijevic, G, Macedonia (born 1998)
Felipe Dos Anjos, C, Brazil (born 199
Yago Mateus Dos Santos, G, Brazil (born 1999)
Sekou Doumbouya, F, France (born 2000)
Henri Drell, F, France (born 2000)
Paul Eboua, F, Cameroon (born 2000)
Osas Ehigiator, C, Spain (born 1999)
Biram Faye, F, Senegal (born 2000)
Ivan Fevrier, F, France (born 1999)
Aleix Font, G/F, Spain (born 1998)
Kadre Gray, G, Laurentian (Canada) (junior)
Philipp Herkenhoff, F, Germany (born 1999)
Dalibor Ilic, F, Bosnia (born 2000)
Matas Jogela, G, Lithiuania (born 1998)
Mate Kalajzic, G, Croatia (born 1998)
Lukasz Kolenda, G, Poland (born 1999)
Andrija Marjanovic, G/F, Serbia (born 1999)
Gytis Masiulis, F/C, Lithuania (born 1998)
Jonas Mattisseck, G, Germany (born 2000)
William McDowell-White, G, Germany (born 1998)
Nikita Mikhailovskii, G/F, Russia (born 2000)
Nikola Miskovic, F, Serbia (born 1999)
Adam Mokoka, G, France (born 1998)
Muhaymin Mustafa, G, Turkey (born 1999)
Abdoulaye N’doye, G, France (born 1998)
Toni Nakic, G, Croatia (born 1999)
Tanor Ngom, C, Senegal (born 1998)
Joshua Obiesie, G, Germany (born 2000)
Louis Olinde, G/F, Germany (born 1998)
Zoran Paunovic, G, Serbia (born 2000)
Dino Radoncic, F, Montenegro (born 1999)
Sander Raieste, F, Estonia (born 1999)
Neal Sako, C, France (born 1998)
Luka Samanic, F, Croatia (born 2000)
Tadas Sedekerskis, F, Lithuania (born 1998)
Njegos Sikiras, F, Bosnia (born 1999)
Marcos Lousada Silva, G/F, Brazil (born 1999)
Borisa Simanic, F, Serbia (born 1998)
Deividas Sirvydis, G, Lithuania (born 2000)
Khadim Sow, C, Senegal (born 1999)
Filip Stanic, F/C, Germany (born 1998)
Michael Uchendu, C, Brazil (born 1998)
Bastien Vautier, C, France (born 1998)
Arnas Velicka, G, Lithuania (born 1999)
Warren Woghiren, C, France (born 1998)
Arturs Zagars, G, Latvia (born 2000)
Yovel Zoosman, G/F, Israel (born 1998)
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Jalen Lecque, G, Brewster Academy (N/A)
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#716 » by RiotPunch » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:06 am

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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#717 » by Gam » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:27 am

bizarro wrote:Complete International Early Entrants:

International Early Entrants:
Dikembe Andre, C, Brazil (born 1999)
Darko Bajo, F, Croatia (born 1999)
Aleksander Balcerowski, C, Poland (born 2000)
Goga Bitadze, C, Georgia (born 1999)
Vrenz Bleijenbergh, F, Belgium (born 2000)
Ognjen Carapic, G, Montenegro (born 1998)
Kevin Cham, G, France (born 1998)
Leo Cizmic, F, Croatia (born 1998)
Digue Diawara, F, France (born 1998)
Nenad Dimitrijevic, G, Macedonia (born 1998)
Felipe Dos Anjos, C, Brazil (born 199
Yago Mateus Dos Santos, G, Brazil (born 1999)
Sekou Doumbouya, F, France (born 2000)
Henri Drell, F, France (born 2000)
Paul Eboua, F, Cameroon (born 2000)
Osas Ehigiator, C, Spain (born 1999)
Biram Faye, F, Senegal (born 2000)
Ivan Fevrier, F, France (born 1999)
Aleix Font, G/F, Spain (born 1998)
Kadre Gray, G, Laurentian (Canada) (junior)
Philipp Herkenhoff, F, Germany (born 1999)
Dalibor Ilic, F, Bosnia (born 2000)
Matas Jogela, G, Lithiuania (born 1998)
Mate Kalajzic, G, Croatia (born 1998)
Lukasz Kolenda, G, Poland (born 1999)
Andrija Marjanovic, G/F, Serbia (born 1999)
Gytis Masiulis, F/C, Lithuania (born 1998)
Jonas Mattisseck, G, Germany (born 2000)
William McDowell-White, G, Germany (born 1998)
Nikita Mikhailovskii, G/F, Russia (born 2000)
Nikola Miskovic, F, Serbia (born 1999)
Adam Mokoka, G, France (born 1998)
Muhaymin Mustafa, G, Turkey (born 1999)
Abdoulaye N’doye, G, France (born 1998)
Toni Nakic, G, Croatia (born 1999)
Tanor Ngom, C, Senegal (born 1998)
Joshua Obiesie, G, Germany (born 2000)
Louis Olinde, G/F, Germany (born 1998)
Zoran Paunovic, G, Serbia (born 2000)
Dino Radoncic, F, Montenegro (born 1999)
Sander Raieste, F, Estonia (born 1999)
Neal Sako, C, France (born 1998)
Luka Samanic, F, Croatia (born 2000)
Tadas Sedekerskis, F, Lithuania (born 1998)
Njegos Sikiras, F, Bosnia (born 1999)
Marcos Lousada Silva, G/F, Brazil (born 1999)
Borisa Simanic, F, Serbia (born 1998)
Deividas Sirvydis, G, Lithuania (born 2000)
Khadim Sow, C, Senegal (born 1999)
Filip Stanic, F/C, Germany (born 1998)
Michael Uchendu, C, Brazil (born 1998)
Bastien Vautier, C, France (born 1998)
Arnas Velicka, G, Lithuania (born 1999)
Warren Woghiren, C, France (born 1998)
Arturs Zagars, G, Latvia (born 2000)
Yovel Zoosman, G/F, Israel (born 1998)
Other:
Jalen Lecque, G, Brewster Academy (N/A)
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Goga Bitadze is very good, probably a will be top 10 guy on my board.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#718 » by RiotPunch » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:39 am

Sekou Doumbouya
Goga Bitadze
Arturs Zagars
Deividas Sirvydis
Joshua Obiesie
Luka Samanic
Vanja Marinkovic (not declared)
Paul Eboua
Henri Drell
Yovel Zoosman
Marko Pecarski (not declared)
Adam Mokoka
Marcos Lousada Silva
Borisa Simanic
Nikita Mikhailovskii

My int'l big board as of now. Chuck, bizarro, tell me who else to Czech out.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#719 » by LuessiT » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:35 pm

RiotPunch wrote:Sekou Doumbouya
Goga Bitadze
Arturs Zagars
Deividas Sirvydis
Joshua Obiesie
Luka Samanic
Vanja Marinkovic (not declared)
Paul Eboua
Henri Drell
Yovel Zoosman
Marko Pecarski (not declared)
Adam Mokoka
Marcos Lousada Silva
Borisa Simanic
Nikita Mikhailovskii

My int'l big board as of now. Chuck, bizarro, tell me who else to Czech out.


Sekou and Bitadze should be lottery guys. Sirvydis is interesting because he brings a lot of desired skills without being ready for the physicality of the NBA. He'd be a prime stash candidate but he might want to come over immediately.
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Post#720 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:57 pm

Give me one of Sirvydis or Obiesie. Stash em for 1-2 years in Europe in order to leave that last roster spot open for a ring-chasing vet. Win-win.

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