2019 NBA Draft thread

Post #141 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:08 am

kdthunderup wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
kdthunderup wrote:Hopefully Presti drafts outside of the typical raw athletic freak mold this draft but the two times he has done that (Payne and Mcgary) he has shat the bed.

Sabonis was Presti’s pick via Orlando. He’s not really an athlete.

True forgot about him. Although I feel like we wasted his talents forcing him into a 3 & D role.

That’s a separate issue but I agree.

Thunder Up · Post #142 » by **Thunder Up** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:00 am

Kabengele has to be the pick

kdthunderup · Post #143 » by **kdthunderup** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:07 am

1- Cameron Reddish
2 - Nickeil Alexander-Walker
3- Cameron Johnson
4 -Tyler Herro

I would like us to pick from that order who ever is left on the board at the time of our pick.

Post #144 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:59 pm

Alexander-Walker cooled a bit as the season progressed. Is that a concern? I haven't really watched him play much but he was a projected top ten pick at one point during the season.

jambalaya · Post #145 » by **jambalaya** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:38 am

A-W is one of the main names to watch who might be available where they currently are slated to pick. Other names for me would be Brandon Clarke and PJ Washington.

I don't much about Samanic but I'd look at him and consider getting a 2nd rounder back to have option to take him or somebody else.

jambalaya · Post #146 » by **jambalaya** » Fri May 3, 2019 1:42 am

gamer

jambalaya · Post #147 » by **jambalaya** » Fri May 3, 2019 1:55 am

The scramble for decent SGs is tougher than that for decent PFs.

Post #148 » by **retrobro90** » Sun May 5, 2019 6:30 am

I kinda just want a ready contributor with a guaranteed usable skill set, no projects with .01% all star possibility upside please. Some of them turn out great but I just want harder evidence than youth or length or athleticism. Kieff and Nerlens are all but guaranteed to leave over the summer but we could use help everywhere outside the 1 assuming Russ and Schroder are still here.

Guys I like in our predicted range: Kebengele, Gafford, Ty Jerome

Guys I'd be satisfied with in our predicted range: Herro, Bitadze, Cam Johnson, NAW

Guys I'd be a little disappointed with taking but would support as a fan: Keldon Johnson, Okpala, Thybulle, THT

Guys I'm kinda out on at this point: Grant Williams, Dort

I really like Clarke and PJ Washington too but I think they've both got too much heat to slip to 21.

1bigfan13 · Post #149 » by **1bigfan13** » Mon May 6, 2019 6:12 am

kdthunderup wrote:1- Cameron Reddish
2 - Nickeil Alexander-Walker
3- Cameron Johnson
4 -Tyler Herro

I would like us to pick from that order who ever is left on the board at the time of our pick.

I like Tyler Herro and his Kentucky teammate Keldon Johnson. Keldon is projected to go in the teens a fall to 21 isn't completely out of the question.

acheema0 · Post #150 » by **acheema0** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:43 pm

I've seen speculation on twitter today that Matisse Thybulle may have a draft promise from the Thunder at 21. Not anything set in stone, not even a report really, just people connecting the dots, as he declined to attend the combine and seems like a prospect the Thunder would like.

Read on Twitter

NVM, didn't check the offseason thread lol

Post #151 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed May 8, 2019 11:08 pm

acheema0 wrote:I've seen speculation on twitter today that Matisse Thybulle may have a draft promise from the Thunder at 21. Not anything set in stone, not even a report really, just people connecting the dots, as he declined to attend the combine and seems like a prospect the Thunder would like.

Read on Twitter

NVM, didn't check the offseason thread lol

I like him but I just keep like we’re reaching too high. He is a low low risk, low ceiling player imo.

acheema0 · Post #152 » by **acheema0** » Wed May 8, 2019 11:20 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
acheema0 wrote:I've seen speculation on twitter today that Matisse Thybulle may have a draft promise from the Thunder at 21. Not anything set in stone, not even a report really, just people connecting the dots, as he declined to attend the combine and seems like a prospect the Thunder would like.

Read on Twitter

NVM, didn't check the offseason thread lol

I like him but I just keep like we’re reaching too high. He is a low low risk, low ceiling player imo.

I like him a lot too, and I definitely think he'd be gone before the second round, but I agree his ceiling isn't much outside a 3/D guy. I'm high on his ability to attack closeouts, but don't see much of an offensive game other that that, and he is a bit older. I would like the pick, but for where this team is atm, I agree in that I'd rather have a high ceiling, more high variance prospect especially with a late first (guys like Bol Bol, and Kevin Porter come to mind).

Kizz Fastfists · Post #153 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Thu May 9, 2019 3:35 am

He is widely considered the best defensive wing in the draft. His offensive game is lacking, but he has shown the ability to shoot the 3 at a decent rate. It wouldn't be a bad pick for value since I think he'll go around 25. However, I think that if OKC takes him it basically means they know Roberson is done. I would much rather hear they made a promise to Mfiondu Kabengele or Goga Bitadze.

CROklahoma · Post #154 » by **CROklahoma** » Thu May 9, 2019 10:18 am

Bitadze would be a turn around for us.
Played in a really good and competitive environment, Euroleague and ABA. Watched him live in ABA playoffs. Solid big with tons of upside
He is a big with an outside shot, but ofcourse we aint drafting euro guys with our 1st.

Thundershock88 · Post #155 » by **Thundershock88** » Thu May 9, 2019 7:36 pm

Team needs shooting. Defense absolutely does not matter. If Thybulle is the pick, prepare for disappointment.

Post #156 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu May 9, 2019 11:24 pm

Thundershock88 wrote:Team needs shooting. Defense absolutely does not matter. If Thybulle is the pick, prepare for disappointment.

This is too much of a pendulum swing. Defense is still very important.

Thundershock88 · Post #157 » by **Thundershock88** » Thu May 9, 2019 11:46 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Thundershock88 wrote:Team needs shooting. Defense absolutely does not matter. If Thybulle is the pick, prepare for disappointment.

This is too much of a pendulum swing. Defense is still very important.

We were 4th in defense without our best defensive player. The league is going away from defense. This team needs a sharpshooter. If Presti makes this pick, he's tripling down on his stupid ways. The league is going completely away from the roster he has built.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #158 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Thu May 9, 2019 11:56 pm

Defense is actually more important than shooting at this point. As long as they are keeping Russ shooting will be marginalized. Russ took 20 shots a game this year and 5.6 a game from 3. OKC had two players on the roster not named PG who shot over 35% from 3 this year and they were only allowed a combined 7.6 three point attempts per game. To put that number in perspective Korver took 5.4 a game with Utah, Crabbe took 6 a game, Covington took 6.7 a game in Minny, Wes Matthews took 6 a game, Ellington took 7.8 a game in Detroit and Mirotic took 6.2 a game with the Bucks and 7.2 a game with NOLA.

The point is that none of those players were the 1st or 2nd option for their teams and they all got almost as many 3 points attempts as OKC's top two 3pt shooting role players. Russ just isn't going to be giving many shots up to 3pt shooters not matter how much he hurts the team by playing stupid. The team needs for Russ to stop taking 5.6 threes a game! They need to let their quality shooters take more 3pt shots per game. Yes, only having 3 decent three point shooters is a problem, but adding more isn't going to solve that problem because of shot distribution. Thybulle has the ability to be a 35%+ 3pt shooter and a good 3&D role player. It won't matter because he'll only get to take two 3s a game like Patterson or Markieff as long as Russ and Schroder at the PGs and Donovan is the coach.

At this juncture that ignoring of optimization on the offensive end actually makes defense more important. OKC has to get stops so their inefficient offense can keep up and they can win games. Thybulle is probably the best pick, in OKC's range, for what they will be doing next year. Taking someone with higher upside could be better long-term, but since I expect Presti to be focused on next year then Thybulle makes sense in trying to get back into the playoffs again. Then again, I expected a pick of OG instead of Ferguson for the same reason. The difference there is Roberson was still healthy when they took Ferguson and they had Abrines. With Abrines gone and Roberson potentially done Thybulle makes even more sense. Horton-Tucker would be more of a Presti pick in young, long and higher upside. Cameron Jordan is the best 3pt shooter they have a chance at. Keldon Johnson is also a shooter they could have a chance at. Carson Edwards would be an interesting combo guard option if they are going to move on from Schroder due to tax issues.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #159 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Thu May 9, 2019 11:58 pm

Thundershock88 wrote:If Presti makes this pick, he's tripling down on his stupid ways.

The only way to try to get out of the problems Presti has created is to somehow get rid of Russ. Maybe Russ for Wiggins. Otherwise Presti will keep chasing what he thinks is the best defensive players and have Russ continue to drive an inefficient offense through his terrible shooting, bad decision making and decreasing athletic abilities.

Thundershock88 · Post #160 » by **Thundershock88** » Fri May 10, 2019 12:13 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Thundershock88 wrote:If Presti makes this pick, he's tripling down on his stupid ways.

The only way to try to get out of the problems Presti has created is to somehow get rid of Russ. Maybe Russ for Wiggins. Otherwise Presti will keep chasing what he thinks is the best defensive players and have Russ continue to drive an inefficient offense through his terrible shooting, bad decision making and decreasing athletic abilities.

Unfortunate, but true.