MrDollarBills wrote:This kid is averaging 22pts, 5rebs, 3asts 47%3PT in the playoffs. Unreal.
Love his game a star in the making.Fun to watch plays like a veteran.
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MrDollarBills wrote:This kid is averaging 22pts, 5rebs, 3asts 47%3PT in the playoffs. Unreal.
MrDollarBills wrote:This kid is averaging 22pts, 5rebs, 3asts 47%3PT in the playoffs. Unreal.
MGrand15 wrote:I don't want to see any LeVert bashing this summer...
NyCeEvO wrote:Love Levert, always have...but it’s been crystal clear since Day 1 that his ability to shoot will largely determine how high his ceiling.
His defense, ability to drive and draw fouls already make him a plus player, but if he can’t shoot consistently (especially in this era), it will limit the potential of his impact. He will be a legit star if he can shoot at least 35-37% from 3 on medium volume (5 attempts per game) and develop a dependable mid-range game. Being a threat to score from anywhere on the court (not just via drives) is what will take him to stardom. That’s all he should be focusing on this summer.
Levert's potential is a Jimmy Butler level player.DeRoma wrote:NyCeEvO wrote:Love Levert, always have...but it’s been crystal clear since Day 1 that his ability to shoot will largely determine how high his ceiling.
His defense, ability to drive and draw fouls already make him a plus player, but if he can’t shoot consistently (especially in this era), it will limit the potential of his impact. He will be a legit star if he can shoot at least 35-37% from 3 on medium volume (5 attempts per game) and develop a dependable mid-range game. Being a threat to score from anywhere on the court (not just via drives) is what will take him to stardom. That’s all he should be focusing on this summer.
I also love LeVert. However, even if an upgrade on his ability to shoot, I don't think he'll ever be good enough to be the main player for a contending team. He has a lot of talent for sure but, he simply doesn't have any outlying talent to be the main option. Even if he can take it to the hole at any types of defense he is too out of control in situation where he gets caught by the defense. In your defense, a midrange shot does solve a lot of that issue, but you still have to question that he doesn't have any real go to moves that's problematic for the defense to completely shut down. Just watching the top teams this playoff series open my eyes that what Nets top talent is simply is not enough to have aspiration to be legitimate contenders. I mean just thinking about the top players from Giannis' strides, Kawhi's massive hands and upperbody strength, Curry's shooting ability, Durant's shooting and physical nature, Harden's combination of strength and ball-handling ability, etc. All of these top players you see are completely in control of their game and you never see them get stuck in a bad situation. I think for LeVert to have a great career. His best role for a team is to be the third best player or a sixth man.
SpeedyG wrote:Levert's potential is a Jimmy Butler level player.DeRoma wrote:NyCeEvO wrote:Love Levert, always have...but it’s been crystal clear since Day 1 that his ability to shoot will largely determine how high his ceiling.
His defense, ability to drive and draw fouls already make him a plus player, but if he can’t shoot consistently (especially in this era), it will limit the potential of his impact. He will be a legit star if he can shoot at least 35-37% from 3 on medium volume (5 attempts per game) and develop a dependable mid-range game. Being a threat to score from anywhere on the court (not just via drives) is what will take him to stardom. That’s all he should be focusing on this summer.
I also love LeVert. However, even if an upgrade on his ability to shoot, I don't think he'll ever be good enough to be the main player for a contending team. He has a lot of talent for sure but, he simply doesn't have any outlying talent to be the main option. Even if he can take it to the hole at any types of defense he is too out of control in situation where he gets caught by the defense. In your defense, a midrange shot does solve a lot of that issue, but you still have to question that he doesn't have any real go to moves that's problematic for the defense to completely shut down. Just watching the top teams this playoff series open my eyes that what Nets top talent is simply is not enough to have aspiration to be legitimate contenders. I mean just thinking about the top players from Giannis' strides, Kawhi's massive hands and upperbody strength, Curry's shooting ability, Durant's shooting and physical nature, Harden's combination of strength and ball-handling ability, etc. All of these top players you see are completely in control of their game and you never see them get stuck in a bad situation. I think for LeVert to have a great career. His best role for a team is to be the third best player or a sixth man.
He's fine as a 1B, but he's not an MVP level like those other players you mentioned. He would need some growth to do, which isn't impossible, though not probable.
Like, there is a very very very slight chance he can get to pre-injury Penny. He's got the size, athleticism, and enough playmaking to think that if things REALLY click, that he can reach that level.
But he probably won't.
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MrDollarBills wrote:SpeedyG wrote:Levert's potential is a Jimmy Butler level player.DeRoma wrote:
I also love LeVert. However, even if an upgrade on his ability to shoot, I don't think he'll ever be good enough to be the main player for a contending team. He has a lot of talent for sure but, he simply doesn't have any outlying talent to be the main option. Even if he can take it to the hole at any types of defense he is too out of control in situation where he gets caught by the defense. In your defense, a midrange shot does solve a lot of that issue, but you still have to question that he doesn't have any real go to moves that's problematic for the defense to completely shut down. Just watching the top teams this playoff series open my eyes that what Nets top talent is simply is not enough to have aspiration to be legitimate contenders. I mean just thinking about the top players from Giannis' strides, Kawhi's massive hands and upperbody strength, Curry's shooting ability, Durant's shooting and physical nature, Harden's combination of strength and ball-handling ability, etc. All of these top players you see are completely in control of their game and you never see them get stuck in a bad situation. I think for LeVert to have a great career. His best role for a team is to be the third best player or a sixth man.
He's fine as a 1B, but he's not an MVP level like those other players you mentioned. He would need some growth to do, which isn't impossible, though not probable.
Like, there is a very very very slight chance he can get to pre-injury Penny. He's got the size, athleticism, and enough playmaking to think that if things REALLY click, that he can reach that level.
But he probably won't.
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He has nowhere near the elite level athleticism, footwork, and passing ability of pre injury Hardaway.
That being said, the odds of him becoming an all star level talent if he can keep his feet together in one piece are fairly high after what I've seen pre and post injury from him this season. He was putting up some serious production versus Philly in a high pressure situation.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leverca01.html#playoffs_advanced::none
ridiculous numbers from a first time performer.
DeRoma wrote:NyCeEvO wrote:Love Levert, always have...but it’s been crystal clear since Day 1 that his ability to shoot will largely determine how high his ceiling.
His defense, ability to drive and draw fouls already make him a plus player, but if he can’t shoot consistently (especially in this era), it will limit the potential of his impact. He will be a legit star if he can shoot at least 35-37% from 3 on medium volume (5 attempts per game) and develop a dependable mid-range game. Being a threat to score from anywhere on the court (not just via drives) is what will take him to stardom. That’s all he should be focusing on this summer.
I also love LeVert. However, even if an upgrade on his ability to shoot, I don't think he'll ever be good enough to be the main player for a contending team. He has a lot of talent for sure but, he simply doesn't have any outlying talent to be the main option. Even if he can take it to the hole at any types of defense he is too out of control in situation where he gets caught by the defense. In your defense, a midrange shot does solve a lot of that issue, but you still have to question that he doesn't have any real go to moves that's problematic for the defense to completely shut down. Just watching the top teams this playoff series open my eyes that what Nets top talent is simply is not enough to have aspiration to be legitimate contenders. I mean just thinking about the top players from Giannis' strides, Kawhi's massive hands and upperbody strength, Curry's shooting ability, Durant's shooting and physical nature, Harden's combination of strength and ball-handling ability, etc. All of these top players you see are completely in control of their game and you never see them get stuck in a bad situation. I think for LeVert to have a great career. His best role for a team is to be the third best player or a sixth man.
NyCeEvO wrote:DeRoma wrote:NyCeEvO wrote:Love Levert, always have...but it’s been crystal clear since Day 1 that his ability to shoot will largely determine how high his ceiling.
His defense, ability to drive and draw fouls already make him a plus player, but if he can’t shoot consistently (especially in this era), it will limit the potential of his impact. He will be a legit star if he can shoot at least 35-37% from 3 on medium volume (5 attempts per game) and develop a dependable mid-range game. Being a threat to score from anywhere on the court (not just via drives) is what will take him to stardom. That’s all he should be focusing on this summer.
I also love LeVert. However, even if an upgrade on his ability to shoot, I don't think he'll ever be good enough to be the main player for a contending team. He has a lot of talent for sure but, he simply doesn't have any outlying talent to be the main option. Even if he can take it to the hole at any types of defense he is too out of control in situation where he gets caught by the defense. In your defense, a midrange shot does solve a lot of that issue, but you still have to question that he doesn't have any real go to moves that's problematic for the defense to completely shut down. Just watching the top teams this playoff series open my eyes that what Nets top talent is simply is not enough to have aspiration to be legitimate contenders. I mean just thinking about the top players from Giannis' strides, Kawhi's massive hands and upperbody strength, Curry's shooting ability, Durant's shooting and physical nature, Harden's combination of strength and ball-handling ability, etc. All of these top players you see are completely in control of their game and you never see them get stuck in a bad situation. I think for LeVert to have a great career. His best role for a team is to be the third best player or a sixth man.
While I agree that Levert won't become an MVP level talent, I don't think every star is a MVP level player.
If he gets a reliable jumpshot, I absolutely believe that he could become a player who could carry a team for a 10-20 game stretch if called upon.
He's already a good 6th man without a jumpshot. This is a shot-maker's league. If Levert gets a shot, his already positive impact will go up by a multiple.
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