The Kyrie thread - he probably doesnt bleed green

[Fencer reregistered]

I always thought of Melo as being from Baltimore.

It turns out he was there from age 8 through most of high school (he did a prep school year at the end). But you're right that he started out in NYC.

Notable New Yorkers that played in the NBA in bold the ones who played in the NY area:
Michael Jordan*
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar*
Julius Erving*
Carmelo Anthony
Bernard King*
Donovan Mitchell
Billy Cunningham*
Charlie Scott*
Bob Lanier*
Kemba Walker
Stephon Marbury
Jamal Mashburn
Tiny Archibald* for 34 games
Connie Hawkins*
George Thompson
Chris Mullin*
George Carter for 1 season
Roger Brown*
Jeff Ruland
Gus Williams
Randy Smith
Lenny Wilkens*
Brian Winters
Elton Brand
Rudy LaRusso
Tobias Harris
Clifford Robinson for 3 sad seasons befor retirement
Andre Drummond
Lamar Odom
Tom Gugliotta
Christian Laettner

This is done starting from sometime in the sixties and based on basketball-reference database.


So yeah, I can't see all this eagerness to play in NY from players that are from the area.

[cloverleaf]

Notable New Yorkers that played in the NBA in bold the ones who played in the NY area:
Michael Jordan*
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar*
Julius Erving*
Carmelo Anthony
Bernard King*
Donovan Mitchell
Billy Cunningham*
Charlie Scott*
Bob Lanier*
Kemba Walker
Stephon Marbury
Jamal Mashburn
Tiny Archibald* for 34 games
Connie Hawkins*
George Thompson
Chris Mullin*
George Carter for 1 season
Roger Brown*
Jeff Ruland
Gus Williams
Randy Smith
Lenny Wilkens*
Brian Winters
Elton Brand
Rudy LaRusso
Tobias Harris
Clifford Robinson for 3 sad seasons befor retirement
Andre Drummond
Lamar Odom
Tom Gugliotta
Christian Laettner

This is done starting from sometime in the sixties and based on basketball-reference database.


So yeah, I can't see all this eagerness to play in NY from players that are from the area.

They are not all Kyrie--a guy who unabashedly plays show tunes in NBA locker rooms, with a chance to go there as a max player with a couple other superstars...

[celtxman]

The Los Angeles Clippers made a preliminary trade call to the Boston Celtics before the trade deadline to inquire on the availability of Kyrie Irving.

The call came before the Clippers traded Tobias Harris to the Philadelphia 76ers.

The Celtics quickly said they were not interested in discussing a trade of Irving.

Irving will be a free agent this offseason and the Clippers figure to have enough cap space to sign two max players.

I have always been of the opinion that if Ainge's Intel showed there was a better chance of Irving leaving, then he should be traded at the deadline. I'm hoping Ainge is tuned into something that we don't know as surely.

[thelarrybirdx]

There are 72 topics like that, no one is closed, trolls don’t want to just tell their opinions they want to be annoying to other people.

Meh, having two threads about Kyrie seems unwarranted. Why not just post everything Kyrie related in one thread and have mods delete all the obvious trolling posts?

There was a time of the season from Janyary to March day one particularly that some posters felt entitled to open topics everytime KI released an interview or there was a baseless speculation out there, there was an official Kyrie Irving thread flooded with 2000 post of the same 10 person writing the same thing all over again, there where also multiple topics open from the same people with shots at Kyrie in the title. Green89 started thiss topic like a shelter because the hate spread on a Celtics player, the best player of the franchise in a long time, from Celtics fans was frankly UNBEARABLE, still someone of the "haters" posted on here and eventually started to ONLY post here because the team started going well and to post in an "hate only" topic would have revealed their nature(of Toronto fan inside, maybe they don't even know themselves)... So we are used to disrespectful people who don't care about education but to quote bogus articles for some Irving shaming during the PO is frankly too much.

Bogus articles for Irving shaming? Not quite sure what makes the article bogus besides you not believing it. Also not quite sure how saying there’s a good chance he doesn’t sign in Boston is shaming him.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

The Los Angeles Clippers made a preliminary trade call to the Boston Celtics before the trade deadline to inquire on the availability of Kyrie Irving.

The call came before the Clippers traded Tobias Harris to the Philadelphia 76ers.

The Celtics quickly said they were not interested in discussing a trade of Irving.

Irving will be a free agent this offseason and the Clippers figure to have enough cap space to sign two max players.

I have always been of the opinion that if Ainge's Intel showed there was a better chance of Irving leaving, then he should be traded at the deadline. I'm hoping Ainge is tuned into something that we don't know as surely.

This. I believe it was ddb or reload who said last spring that Ainge liked Gilgeous-Alexander and was interested in trading up. If the Clips did call, and if Ainge was scared about Kyrie leaving, the trade would have been made, IMO.

[ermocrate]

Meh, having two threads about Kyrie seems unwarranted. Why not just post everything Kyrie related in one thread and have mods delete all the obvious trolling posts?

There was a time of the season from Janyary to March day one particularly that some posters felt entitled to open topics everytime KI released an interview or there was a baseless speculation out there, there was an official Kyrie Irving thread flooded with 2000 post of the same 10 person writing the same thing all over again, there where also multiple topics open from the same people with shots at Kyrie in the title. Green89 started thiss topic like a shelter because the hate spread on a Celtics player, the best player of the franchise in a long time, from Celtics fans was frankly UNBEARABLE, still someone of the "haters" posted on here and eventually started to ONLY post here because the team started going well and to post in an "hate only" topic would have revealed their nature(of Toronto fan inside, maybe they don't even know themselves)... So we are used to disrespectful people who don't care about education but to quote bogus articles for some Irving shaming during the PO is frankly too much.

Bogus articles for Irving shaming? Not quite sure what makes the article bogus besides you not believing it. Also not quite sure how saying there’s a good chance he doesn’t sign in Boston is shaming him.

An article with no facts, that talks about supposed voices from the hallway, peoples with no name supposedly ex AND actual teammates, a supposed agent, ONE executive(that supposedly said KD would be validated if he goes to NY and forms a superteam there LOL), they all talking about KD signing for NYK in this big spy movie in the head of "Ian BegleyESPN Staff Writer" and with the help of an idiotic redaction from a wiretap "butcher" on RealGM(because the article beside being all fiction was way more argumentated than that) it's USED as an EVIDENCE that Kyrie will not sign here and is a **** bastard, during the PO, not a period where therte's nothing to talk so people argue over nothing, the PO. One can have his own opinion but this is just the state of the art of trolling.

[Jaqua92]

I hate you guys so much. But I hope Kyrie stays because I also hate New York. I know the NBA is going to give them Zion, and I don't want to live in a world where KD/Kyrie/Zion (or AD if they trade the pick) are playing together on a New York team.

That is all.

There's love in there

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[thelarrybirdx]

There was a time of the season from Janyary to March day one particularly that some posters felt entitled to open topics everytime KI released an interview or there was a baseless speculation out there, there was an official Kyrie Irving thread flooded with 2000 post of the same 10 person writing the same thing all over again, there where also multiple topics open from the same people with shots at Kyrie in the title. Green89 started thiss topic like a shelter because the hate spread on a Celtics player, the best player of the franchise in a long time, from Celtics fans was frankly UNBEARABLE, still someone of the "haters" posted on here and eventually started to ONLY post here because the team started going well and to post in an "hate only" topic would have revealed their nature(of Toronto fan inside, maybe they don't even know themselves)... So we are used to disrespectful people who don't care about education but to quote bogus articles for some Irving shaming during the PO is frankly too much.

Bogus articles for Irving shaming? Not quite sure what makes the article bogus besides you not believing it. Also not quite sure how saying there’s a good chance he doesn’t sign in Boston is shaming him.

An article with no facts, that talks about supposed voices from the hallway, peoples with no name supposedly ex AND actual teammates, a supposed agent, ONE executive(that supposedly said KD would be validated if he goes to NY and forms a superteam there LOL), they all talking about KD signing for NYK in this big spy movie in the head of "Ian BegleyESPN Staff Writer" and with the help of an idiotic redaction from a wiretap "butcher" on RealGM(because the article beside being all fiction was way more argumentated than that) it's USED as an EVIDENCE that Kyrie will not sign here and is a **** bastard, during the PO, not a period where therte's nothing to talk so people argue over nothing, the PO. One can have his own opinion but this is just the state of the art of trolling.

Sorry man, I stopped reading after the first sentence. You do realize that’s how sources work, right? I feel as if this conversation is getting a bit off topic, so I’ll drop it.

[ajones9219]

Bogus articles for Irving shaming? Not quite sure what makes the article bogus besides you not believing it. Also not quite sure how saying there’s a good chance he doesn’t sign in Boston is shaming him.

An article with no facts, that talks about supposed voices from the hallway, peoples with no name supposedly ex AND actual teammates, a supposed agent, ONE executive(that supposedly said KD would be validated if he goes to NY and forms a superteam there LOL), they all talking about KD signing for NYK in this big spy movie in the head of "Ian BegleyESPN Staff Writer" and with the help of an idiotic redaction from a wiretap "butcher" on RealGM(because the article beside being all fiction was way more argumentated than that) it's USED as an EVIDENCE that Kyrie will not sign here and is a **** bastard, during the PO, not a period where therte's nothing to talk so people argue over nothing, the PO. One can have his own opinion but this is just the state of the art of trolling.

Sorry man, I stopped reading after the first sentence. You do realize that’s how sources work, right? I feel as if this conversation is getting a bit off topic, so I’ll drop it.

I have sources close to the team that say Irving is already verbally committed to Boston. Guess we should just take my word for it

[ermocrate]

Bogus articles for Irving shaming? Not quite sure what makes the article bogus besides you not believing it. Also not quite sure how saying there’s a good chance he doesn’t sign in Boston is shaming him.

An article with no facts, that talks about supposed voices from the hallway, peoples with no name supposedly ex AND actual teammates, a supposed agent, ONE executive(that supposedly said KD would be validated if he goes to NY and forms a superteam there LOL), they all talking about KD signing for NYK in this big spy movie in the head of "Ian BegleyESPN Staff Writer" and with the help of an idiotic redaction from a wiretap "butcher" on RealGM(because the article beside being all fiction was way more argumentated than that) it's USED as an EVIDENCE that Kyrie will not sign here and is a **** bastard, during the PO, not a period where therte's nothing to talk so people argue over nothing, the PO. One can have his own opinion but this is just the state of the art of trolling.

Sorry man, I stopped reading after the first sentence. You do realize that’s how sources work, right? I feel as if this conversation is getting a bit off topic, so I’ll drop it.

No, that’s not journalisms, that’s gossip... A source will be “a source in the inner KD circle says that he is signing with NY if they get the 1st pick and are able to sign another star”, that would be much harder to be falsified, a restrict number of people, if you say something false you can be called out much easily, the categories he included as “sources” are so vast and undefined that nobody is ever going to call him out, that’s a “safe way” to invent news. Anyway that was not the point, the point was not that, the point was about Celtics fans using an article with no facts in it to insult their best player during a playoff run.

[ermocrate]

An article with no facts, that talks about supposed voices from the hallway, peoples with no name supposedly ex AND actual teammates, a supposed agent, ONE executive(that supposedly said KD would be validated if he goes to NY and forms a superteam there LOL), they all talking about KD signing for NYK in this big spy movie in the head of "Ian BegleyESPN Staff Writer" and with the help of an idiotic redaction from a wiretap "butcher" on RealGM(because the article beside being all fiction was way more argumentated than that) it's USED as an EVIDENCE that Kyrie will not sign here and is a **** bastard, during the PO, not a period where therte's nothing to talk so people argue over nothing, the PO. One can have his own opinion but this is just the state of the art of trolling.

Sorry man, I stopped reading after the first sentence. You do realize that’s how sources work, right? I feel as if this conversation is getting a bit off topic, so I’ll drop it.

I have sources close to the team that say Irving is already verbally committed to Boston. Guess we should just take my word for it

That source has way more validity than any source cited in the article.

[ddb]

I'm posting this here. Had a conversation with a reputable NBA guy recently and I asked him what he thought about Kyrie Irving and free agency. He basically said, "look, the media will always look at the top free agents and place them in a city that will help drive their ratings. At the end of the day I don't think anything has changed for Kyrie. He's in a great situation and he knows it. Now the whole leadership and chemistry issues this season were hard on that entire locker room, but winning cures all and Kyrie knows that Danny has the cards to add Anthony Davis or Kevin Durant this summer. Would I count out the Knicks and Clippers? No. But I think the most likely scenario is that the Warriors win it all AGAIN, and then bring their core 4 back to go for an unprecedented 4 straight titles together. In that scenario with Durant staying in Golden State I believe Kyrie signs with Boston long-term and they go out and bring in Davis as well. If the Celtics win it all, Kyrie stays. Really the only scenario that starts getting dicey if you are a Celtics fan is if someone other than Golden State or Boston wins it all. and if NY also gets the top pick and can flip Zion and pieces to NOLA for Davis....then you'd have to worry about NY going from worst to first with a Kyrie-KD-Davis big 3. But that scenario is a long-shot. I believe Kyrie ends up back in Boston. Durant sticks with the Warriors and goes for 4 in a row."

He also said he thinks Kawhi ends up with the Clippers to play for Doc.

[Parliament10]

I'm posting this here. Had a conversation with a reputable NBA guy recently and I asked him what he thought about Kyrie Irving and free agency. He basically said, "look, the media will always look at the top free agents and place them in a city that will help drive their ratings. At the end of the day I don't think anything has changed for Kyrie. He's in a great situation and he knows it. Now the whole leadership and chemistry issues this season were hard on that entire locker room, but winning cures all and Kyrie knows that Danny has the cards to add Anthony Davis or Kevin Durant this summer. Would I count out the Knicks and Clippers? No. But I think the most likely scenario is that the Warriors win it all AGAIN, and then bring their core 4 back to go for an unprecedented 4 straight titles together. In that scenario with Durant staying in Golden State I believe Kyrie signs with Boston long-term and they go out and bring in Davis as well. If the Celtics win it all, Kyrie stays. Really the only scenario that starts getting dicey if you are a Celtics fan is if someone other than Golden State or Boston wins it all. and if NY also gets the top pick and can flip Zion and pieces to NOLA for Davis....then you'd have to worry about NY going from worst to first with a Kyrie-KD-Davis big 3. But that scenario is a long-shot. I believe Kyrie ends up back in Boston. Durant sticks with the Warriors and goes for 4 in a row."

He also said he thinks Kawhi ends up with the Clippers to play for Doc.

This all sounds about right.
Thank You, for posting it.

[ConstableGeneva]

Dunno where to put this. Unintended FA pitch:

Read on Twitter

[Jaqua92]

I'm posting this here. Had a conversation with a reputable NBA guy recently and I asked him what he thought about Kyrie Irving and free agency. He basically said, "look, the media will always look at the top free agents and place them in a city that will help drive their ratings. At the end of the day I don't think anything has changed for Kyrie. He's in a great situation and he knows it. Now the whole leadership and chemistry issues this season were hard on that entire locker room, but winning cures all and Kyrie knows that Danny has the cards to add Anthony Davis or Kevin Durant this summer. Would I count out the Knicks and Clippers? No. But I think the most likely scenario is that the Warriors win it all AGAIN, and then bring their core 4 back to go for an unprecedented 4 straight titles together. In that scenario with Durant staying in Golden State I believe Kyrie signs with Boston long-term and they go out and bring in Davis as well. If the Celtics win it all, Kyrie stays. Really the only scenario that starts getting dicey if you are a Celtics fan is if someone other than Golden State or Boston wins it all. and if NY also gets the top pick and can flip Zion and pieces to NOLA for Davis....then you'd have to worry about NY going from worst to first with a Kyrie-KD-Davis big 3. But that scenario is a long-shot. I believe Kyrie ends up back in Boston. Durant sticks with the Warriors and goes for 4 in a row."

He also said he thinks Kawhi ends up with the Clippers to play for Doc.

KD is gone imo

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[Jaqua92]

I'm just hoping we manage to retain Kyrie

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[watsonthedragon]

In Macmullan's new article:

"I've been playing basketball a lot longer than some of these people analyzing the game,' Irving says. "I'm an actual genius when it comes to this game.

"If you ask me about basketball, I will talk all day. If you ask me about spacing at the 3:33 mark of the second quarter, I will gladly explain it. I'll tell you what plays worked, about adjustments we make. But when it comes to personal things, or comparing myself to my NBA brothers, like, 'Do you think you are better than this guy?' I'm out."

Honestly, I agree with him, he IS a basketball genius, but just leave that ONE line out.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I'm posting this here. Had a conversation with a reputable NBA guy recently and I asked him what he thought about Kyrie Irving and free agency. He basically said, "look, the media will always look at the top free agents and place them in a city that will help drive their ratings. At the end of the day I don't think anything has changed for Kyrie. He's in a great situation and he knows it. Now the whole leadership and chemistry issues this season were hard on that entire locker room, but winning cures all and Kyrie knows that Danny has the cards to add Anthony Davis or Kevin Durant this summer. Would I count out the Knicks and Clippers? No. But I think the most likely scenario is that the Warriors win it all AGAIN, and then bring their core 4 back to go for an unprecedented 4 straight titles together. In that scenario with Durant staying in Golden State I believe Kyrie signs with Boston long-term and they go out and bring in Davis as well. If the Celtics win it all, Kyrie stays. Really the only scenario that starts getting dicey if you are a Celtics fan is if someone other than Golden State or Boston wins it all. and if NY also gets the top pick and can flip Zion and pieces to NOLA for Davis....then you'd have to worry about NY going from worst to first with a Kyrie-KD-Davis big 3. But that scenario is a long-shot. I believe Kyrie ends up back in Boston. Durant sticks with the Warriors and goes for 4 in a row."

He also said he thinks Kawhi ends up with the Clippers to play for Doc.

KD is gone imo

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I dont know— he looks much happier lately, especially now that everyone is rightfully acknowledging him as GS’s best player.

[ddb]

I'm posting this here. Had a conversation with a reputable NBA guy recently and I asked him what he thought about Kyrie Irving and free agency. He basically said, "look, the media will always look at the top free agents and place them in a city that will help drive their ratings. At the end of the day I don't think anything has changed for Kyrie. He's in a great situation and he knows it. Now the whole leadership and chemistry issues this season were hard on that entire locker room, but winning cures all and Kyrie knows that Danny has the cards to add Anthony Davis or Kevin Durant this summer. Would I count out the Knicks and Clippers? No. But I think the most likely scenario is that the Warriors win it all AGAIN, and then bring their core 4 back to go for an unprecedented 4 straight titles together. In that scenario with Durant staying in Golden State I believe Kyrie signs with Boston long-term and they go out and bring in Davis as well. If the Celtics win it all, Kyrie stays. Really the only scenario that starts getting dicey if you are a Celtics fan is if someone other than Golden State or Boston wins it all. and if NY also gets the top pick and can flip Zion and pieces to NOLA for Davis....then you'd have to worry about NY going from worst to first with a Kyrie-KD-Davis big 3. But that scenario is a long-shot. I believe Kyrie ends up back in Boston. Durant sticks with the Warriors and goes for 4 in a row."

He also said he thinks Kawhi ends up with the Clippers to play for Doc.

KD is gone imo

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I dont know— he looks much happier lately, especially now that everyone is rightfully acknowledging him as GS’s best player.

If Golden St wins Durant will stay for another season. He can simply opt in. And he would. You can bail on the chance to win a 4th straight title.

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[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I'm posting this here. Had a conversation with a reputable NBA guy recently and I asked him what he thought about Kyrie Irving and free agency. He basically said, "look, the media will always look at the top free agents and place them in a city that will help drive their ratings. At the end of the day I don't think anything has changed for Kyrie. He's in a great situation and he knows it. Now the whole leadership and chemistry issues this season were hard on that entire locker room, but winning cures all and Kyrie knows that Danny has the cards to add Anthony Davis or Kevin Durant this summer. Would I count out the Knicks and Clippers? No. But I think the most likely scenario is that the Warriors win it all AGAIN, and then bring their core 4 back to go for an unprecedented 4 straight titles together. In that scenario with Durant staying in Golden State I believe Kyrie signs with Boston long-term and they go out and bring in Davis as well. If the Celtics win it all, Kyrie stays. Really the only scenario that starts getting dicey if you are a Celtics fan is if someone other than Golden State or Boston wins it all. and if NY also gets the top pick and can flip Zion and pieces to NOLA for Davis....then you'd have to worry about NY going from worst to first with a Kyrie-KD-Davis big 3. But that scenario is a long-shot. I believe Kyrie ends up back in Boston. Durant sticks with the Warriors and goes for 4 in a row."

He also said he thinks Kawhi ends up with the Clippers to play for Doc.

KD is gone imo

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I dont know— he looks much happier lately, especially now that everyone is rightfully acknowledging him as GS’s best player.

Agreed. All it really takes is for Kerr, Curry and Green to all admit that they need him, and to say this openly in public. I dunno what the hell Bob Myers was doing last year when he was poking fun at KD for not being a "lifer" during their championship parade. I get that he was being facetious, but when you look at KD, it looked like he wasn't enjoying the jokes.