Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread

[Kobblehead]

Also, latter years tend to drive down career PPG.

Usually some of the early years do, too. Except in the instances where players enter the league and are stars the moment they step foot on an NBA court. Both Kyrie and Dame did that very thing. Which is another reason why I don't think they'll be forgotten players of an era. Instant stars that rack up production and accolades do not get forgotten.

So is Blake Griffin in that same category? Star from the jump, #1 overall pick, also top-10 in active PPG, handful of all league awards, commercials.

Looking at former players, Mitch Richmond feels like he fits what I'm talking about. Really good player that kinda disappears into his era.

For sure, Blake is definitely not fading into oblivion in the coming decades.

Again, I just don't think it's possible for guys to fall through the cracks in this day and age.

Mitch Richmond was in his mid-30s before the new millennium rolled around. There were nowhere near as many televised games as there are now. There was no social media. There were only a fraction of the endorsements.

If you're a longstanding star playing during this era, you're not getting forgotten. All these guys get sooooo much exposure these days.

Even dudes like Lonzo Ball are going to have a huge footnote in history because of the stuff people will remember. I just don't think it's possible for guys like Dame and Kyrie to fade from memory. I think they'll even be first name references in our vernacular.

[youngcrev]

Usually some of the early years do, too. Except in the instances where players enter the league and are stars the moment they step foot on an NBA court. Both Kyrie and Dame did that very thing. Which is another reason why I don't think they'll be forgotten players of an era. Instant stars that rack up production and accolades do not get forgotten.

So is Blake Griffin in that same category? Star from the jump, #1 overall pick, also top-10 in active PPG, handful of all league awards, commercials.

Looking at former players, Mitch Richmond feels like he fits what I'm talking about. Really good player that kinda disappears into his era.

For sure, Blake is definitely not fading into oblivion in the coming decades.

Again, I just don't think it's possible for guys to fall through the cracks in this day and age.

Mitch Richmond was in his mid-30s before the new millennium rolled around. There were nowhere near as many televised games as there are now. There was no social media. There were only a fraction of the endorsements.

If you're a longstanding star playing during this era, you're not getting forgotten. All these guys get sooooo much exposure these days.

Even dudes like Lonzo Ball are going to have a huge footnote in history because of the stuff people will remember. I just don't think it's possible for guys like Dame and Kyrie to fade from memory. I think they'll even be first name references in our vernacular.

I'm saying forgotten to basketball history, not to the people currently watching. The names that fade away as the people that watched them do.

[youngcrev]

Is it worth spending the full MLE on a high end backup for Embiid or do you hope someone decent is available for bi-annual exception money? I guess option 3 is bring back Boban for cheap and hope Bolden develops.

[Foshan]

Is it worth spending the full MLE on a high end backup for Embiid or do you hope someone decent is available for bi-annual exception money? I guess option 3 is bring back Boban for cheap and hope Bolden develops.

I'd rather not. I may be overly optimistic, but think that with more consistent burn Bolden could at least be worth back up minutes.

I'd really rather spend the full MLE on the best talent we can get, and then figure out how to make it work with our other talented pieces (under the assumption that we bring everyone back).

[youngcrev]

Is it worth spending the full MLE on a high end backup for Embiid or do you hope someone decent is available for bi-annual exception money? I guess option 3 is bring back Boban for cheap and hope Bolden develops.

I'd rather not. I may be overly optimistic, but think that with more consistent burn Bolden could at least be worth back up minutes.

I'd really rather spend the full MLE on the best talent we can get, and then figure out how to make it work with our other talented pieces (under the assumption that we bring everyone back).

Fair enough.

You'd get more utility out of pretty much any other position, but keeping Jo's minutes and games played in check going forward needs to be a priority. Though with the depth of centers in the league, you maybe could get by with some minimum guys, provided you do a better job than Amir and Monroe this time around.

[Kobblehead]

Is it worth spending the full MLE on a high end backup for Embiid.

Absolutely not. It's a 10-12 mpg role.

[sixers hoops]

Is it worth spending the full MLE on a high end backup for Embiid or do you hope someone decent is available for bi-annual exception money? I guess option 3 is bring back Boban for cheap and hope Bolden develops.

I'd rather not. I may be overly optimistic, but think that with more consistent burn Bolden could at least be worth back up minutes.

I'd really rather spend the full MLE on the best talent we can get, and then figure out how to make it work with our other talented pieces (under the assumption that we bring everyone back).

Fair enough.

You'd get more utility out of pretty much any other position, but keeping Jo's minutes and games played in check going forward needs to be a priority. Though with the depth of centers in the league, you maybe could get by with some minimum guys, provided you do a better job than Amir and Monroe this time around.

I think our problem when Embiid was out, pre-Boban, was that we occasionally didn’t have the personnel to defend other true big men. With less and less dominant bigs to guard, I imagine we can often go without a traditional center, so we may just need a big body that plays 12-15 situational minutes a game. However, I guys it depends how other pieces shake out first.

I’ve never seen him play, but following blue coat recaps that CoreyGallagher keeps posting, Norvel Pelle seems like a guy who will be a solid rotational piece somewhere, and we will be thinking “we had him here but chose to use spots on Patton, Amir, and Monroe over him.” He seems like a candidate to fill a bench role for us.

[youngcrev]

Is it worth spending the full MLE on a high end backup for Embiid.

Absolutely not. It's a 10-12 mpg role.

There's no way Jo should be playing 36-38 minutes per game in the regular season. Not to mention, I don't think he'll play anywhere near a full season.

[Kobblehead]

Is it worth spending the full MLE on a high end backup for Embiid.

Absolutely not. It's a 10-12 mpg role.

There's no way Jo should be playing 36-38 minutes per game in the regular season. Not to mention, I don't think he'll play anywhere near a full season.

So we'll go small like the rest of the league.

If you want to spend the full-MLE on a big that can split time between the 4 and 5 like Markieff Morris, sure.

A straight C with no position versatility, though? I wouldn't even bother.

[LloydFree]

Is it worth spending the full MLE on a high end backup for Embiid or do you hope someone decent is available for bi-annual exception money? I guess option 3 is bring back Boban for cheap and hope Bolden develops.

No way. Extreme wast of money. You can get a good backup center on the veterans minimum on any given year. Either way, this will be a good big man draft. The 76ers will be able to take their choice of backup Centers with 3 picks between 24 and 36.

[PhillyPhilly]

If Jimmy were to walk how would yall feel about getting Mirotic and someone like a KCP/Ross/Lamb/ type to partner Simmons?

Mirotic/Harris/Embiid/Simmons/KCP

Would that be decent yall? And then with those two signings we would probably have enough to get a stronger bench. You'd have three legit shooters, Harris and KCP can create their own shots and all of them would be capable of getting 15 PPG next season. Just something I was thinking about because although I think Jimmy would be mad to leave Philly, I've seen a few media folks cast doubt over him being here long term so I'm just doing the maths before any decision is made.

[cool93]

If Jimmy were to walk how would yall feel about getting Mirotic and someone like a KCP/Ross/Lamb/ type to partner Simmons?

Mirotic/Harris/Embiid/Simmons/KCP

Would that be decent yall? And then with those two signings we would probably have enough to get a stronger bench. You'd have three legit shooters, Harris and KCP can create their own shots and all of them would be capable of getting 15 PPG next season. Just something I was thinking about because although I think Jimmy would be mad to leave Philly, I've seen a few media folks cast doubt over him being here long term so I'm just doing the maths before any decision is made.

That would be a REALLY depressing summer.

[PhillyPhilly]

If Jimmy were to walk how would yall feel about getting Mirotic and someone like a KCP/Ross/Lamb/ type to partner Simmons?

Mirotic/Harris/Embiid/Simmons/KCP

Would that be decent yall? And then with those two signings we would probably have enough to get a stronger bench. You'd have three legit shooters, Harris and KCP can create their own shots and all of them would be capable of getting 15 PPG next season. Just something I was thinking about because although I think Jimmy would be mad to leave Philly, I've seen a few media folks cast doubt over him being here long term so I'm just doing the maths before any decision is made.

That would be a REALLY depressing summer.

Come up with a better plan then? Who do you think we could replace Jimmy with?

[XtremeDunkz]

If Jimmy were to walk how would yall feel about getting Mirotic and someone like a KCP/Ross/Lamb/ type to partner Simmons?

Mirotic/Harris/Embiid/Simmons/KCP

Would that be decent yall? And then with those two signings we would probably have enough to get a stronger bench. You'd have three legit shooters, Harris and KCP can create their own shots and all of them would be capable of getting 15 PPG next season. Just something I was thinking about because although I think Jimmy would be mad to leave Philly, I've seen a few media folks cast doubt over him being here long term so I'm just doing the maths before any decision is made.

That would be a REALLY depressing summer.

Come up with a better plan then? Who do you think we could replace Jimmy with?

If Jimmy does leave (I dont think he will) you go after another max type guy. You need guaranteed production. Kemba, Middleton types.

[PhillyPhilly]

That would be a REALLY depressing summer.

Come up with a better plan then? Who do you think we could replace Jimmy with?

If Jimmy does leave (I dont think he will) you go after another max type guy. You need guaranteed production. Kemba, Middleton types.

Of course going after another max guy is logical, but we also have to be realistic. Kemba has a lot of money on the table in Charlotte, and Middleton is likely to stay with the Bucks. Then there are KD, Kawhi and Irving which are non starters. So who else does that leave? Mirotic and KCP are 15 ppg guys and shooters, that's why I put that idea on the table.

[downtownpie]

Butler isnt a good fit with Embiid and Simmons.

Harris is worth keeping.

[Negrodamus]

I'd offer Kemba with the money we're likely going to give Butler.

Until as recently as 2014-15, Kemba Walker was a smallish volume scorer limited by substandard three-point shooting and barely break-even defensive impact. That player is gone now, replaced by a three-time All-Star whose comfort from deep bends defenses much like Stephen Curry, Damian Lillard or your off-the-dribble gunslinger of choice.

Walker is happy to take as many pull-up treys as your defensive scheme will allow, generally to great effect. Only James Harden attempts more such shots per game this season, and though Walker is only hitting them at 35.7 percent (38.1 percent last year), that's still more than accurate enough to rank first on every opposing team's "must not allow" section of the scouting report.

Among high-volume pick-and-roll ball-handlers, only Lillard averages more points per possession than Walker.

Undersized guards who depend on quickness don't often age gracefully, but Walker is averaging a career-high in scoring in his age-28 season. Even if decline begins next year, he'll still be the kind of offensive force around which a team can build its entire scheme.

Running the PnR with a threat like Embiid would benefit both immensely.

[the_process]

Noah Vonleh is a guy the Sixers should go after this summer.

[Wilfried]

Noah Vonleh is a guy the Sixers should go after this summer.

Vonleh, Danny Green, Pat Beverly with the money we would spend on Jimmy Butler. (all 3 year contracts if possible)
Reddick with MLE?
Harris is retained because of fit, versatility, age and shooting capabilities. Let's hope he can be ours at around 25 million/year (which is fair).

We have a big 3 in Embiid/Simmons/Harris and we add shooting, defense and experience to our team.

Than hope Zhaire Smith and Jonah Bolden can take a step (or 2) and we get at least 1 more decent rookie from this draft (5 picks).

And of course, let's just hope and pray we get 5 more healthy years from Embiid.

Simmons/Beverly/Milton
Green/Reddick/Zhaire
Harris/Zhaire/Green
Vonleh/Harris/Simmons
Embiid/Bolden/Vonleh

+ 1 rookie in development and some vets after trade deadline.
Would love to keep Boban/Ennis and Scott but no clue how we could do that while adding 3 players.

[elchengue20]

Noah Vonleh is a guy the Sixers should go after this summer.

Vonleh, Danny Green, Pat Beverly with the money we would spend on Jimmy Butler. (all 3 year contracts if possible)
Reddick with MLE?
Harris is retained because of fit, versatility, age and shooting capabilities. Let's hope he can be ours at around 25 million/year (which is fair).

We have a big 3 in Embiid/Simmons/Harris and we add shooting, defense and experience to our team.

Than hope Zhaire Smith and Jonah Bolden can take a step (or 2) and we get at least 1 more decent rookie from this draft (5 picks).

And of course, let's just hope and pray we get 5 more healthy years from Embiid.

Simmons/Beverly/Milton
Green/Reddick/Zhaire
Harris/Zhaire/Green
Vonleh/Harris/Simmons
Embiid/Bolden/Vonleh

+ 1 rookie in development and some vets after trade deadline.
Would love to keep Boban/Ennis and Scott but no clue how we could do that while adding 3 players.

I like this plan. Giving both of Butler and Harris a MAX is a terrible idea.

I agree chosing Harris over Butler for the same reasons you said. Butler is older and just doesn't fits with this team. Also has character issues. He isn't worth the MAX in the role he's playing here.

We need a combo guard who can handle a little bit, shoot spot up 3's and defend quick guards. Maybe Zhaire is the man.
Also i'm confortable with Bolden potential of becoming a solid backup C.

We desesperatly need 3+D wings. We should use Butler money in a couple of good ones and a guard in case Zhaire doesn't fullfil his potential.