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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#881 » by Laimbeer » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:01 pm

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ardee wrote:I'd like to try a team-up draft of some kind (where two posters team-up and alternate picks) again. Those were fun. I remember me and Timmay had some good synergy :D


yeah after we decided to spite each other with Kobe/KG we did work really well lol


Team up auction? Either partner could bid, no communicating. :o
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1) It's less than the MLE
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3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#882 » by ardee » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:17 pm

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Timmaytime wrote:
ardee wrote:I'd like to try a team-up draft of some kind (where two posters team-up and alternate picks) again. Those were fun. I remember me and Timmay had some good synergy :D


yeah after we decided to spite each other with Kobe/KG we did work really well lol


Team up auction? Either partner could bid, no communicating. :o
I've never done an auction but sounds fun.

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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#883 » by Laimbeer » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:40 am

No Overlap Draft. None of your players' career span can overlap with any others.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#884 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:49 am

Laimbeer wrote:No Overlap Draft. None of your players' career span can overlap with any others.

That seems almost impossible for an eight-man roster. Might be better to just apply that to consecutive picks.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#885 » by Laimbeer » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:24 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:No Overlap Draft. None of your players' career span can overlap with any others.

That seems almost impossible for an eight-man roster. Might be better to just apply that to consecutive picks.


I don't think so. If it's 1970 and forward.

Ones starter's career ended early seventies. Another starter's career started 2015 or later. That leaves mid seventies to mid 2010's for your other three starters. Find bench guys who only played a couple of seasons. Maybe the fifth starter has a somewhat shorter career.
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3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
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Post#886 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:30 am

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:No Overlap Draft. None of your players' career span can overlap with any others.

That seems almost impossible for an eight-man roster. Might be better to just apply that to consecutive picks.


I don't think so. If it's 1970 and forward.

Ones starter's career ended early seventies. Another starter's career started 2015 or later. That leaves mid seventies to mid 2010's for your other three starters. Find bench guys who only played a couple of seasons. Maybe the fifth starter has a somewhat shorter career.

Those are some very specific parameters. I mean I'm sure you could build teams to fit the criteria, but they'd be very stilted and the research would be a pain in the ass.
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Post#887 » by Laimbeer » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:15 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:That seems almost impossible for an eight-man roster. Might be better to just apply that to consecutive picks.


I don't think so. If it's 1970 and forward.

Ones starter's career ended early seventies. Another starter's career started 2015 or later. That leaves mid seventies to mid 2010's for your other three starters. Find bench guys who only played a couple of seasons. Maybe the fifth starter has a somewhat shorter career.

Those are some very specific parameters. I mean I'm sure you could build teams to fit the criteria, but they'd be very stilted and the research would be a pain in the ass.


BR allows you to search players whose career started or ended in a particular period so that helps a little, but it's definitely research heavier than most.

We could relax it by excluding bench players from the restriction?
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Post#888 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:56 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
I don't think so. If it's 1970 and forward.

Ones starter's career ended early seventies. Another starter's career started 2015 or later. That leaves mid seventies to mid 2010's for your other three starters. Find bench guys who only played a couple of seasons. Maybe the fifth starter has a somewhat shorter career.

Those are some very specific parameters. I mean I'm sure you could build teams to fit the criteria, but they'd be very stilted and the research would be a pain in the ass.


BR allows you to search players whose career started or ended in a particular period so that helps a little, but it's definitely research heavier than most.

We could relax it by excluding bench players from the restriction?


Or no all stars who overlapped. I have not been crazy about the starters/bench rules in the past, usually people find a way around it with gimmicky teams with all stars off the bench
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Post#889 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:07 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Those are some very specific parameters. I mean I'm sure you could build teams to fit the criteria, but they'd be very stilted and the research would be a pain in the ass.


BR allows you to search players whose career started or ended in a particular period so that helps a little, but it's definitely research heavier than most.

We could relax it by excluding bench players from the restriction?


Or no all stars who overlapped. I have not been crazy about the starters/bench rules in the past, usually people find a way around it with gimmicky teams with all stars off the bench

Agreed on both counts.
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Post#890 » by Laimbeer » Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:57 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Those are some very specific parameters. I mean I'm sure you could build teams to fit the criteria, but they'd be very stilted and the research would be a pain in the ass.


BR allows you to search players whose career started or ended in a particular period so that helps a little, but it's definitely research heavier than most.

We could relax it by excluding bench players from the restriction?


Or no all stars who overlapped. I have not been crazy about the starters/bench rules in the past, usually people find a way around it with gimmicky teams with all stars off the bench
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
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Post#891 » by Laimbeer » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:03 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
BR allows you to search players whose career started or ended in a particular period so that helps a little, but it's definitely research heavier than most.

We could relax it by excluding bench players from the restriction?


Or no all stars who overlapped. I have not been crazy about the starters/bench rules in the past, usually people find a way around it with gimmicky teams with all stars off the bench

Agreed on both counts.


How about a total FGA limit of 15 for three bench players, stipulate none could be all-stars or play over 20 minutes.
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3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
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Post#892 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:09 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Or no all stars who overlapped. I have not been crazy about the starters/bench rules in the past, usually people find a way around it with gimmicky teams with all stars off the bench

Agreed on both counts.


How about a total FGA limit of 15 for three bench players, stipulate none could be all-stars or play over 20 minutes.

Much prefer Dr P's idea. Restricting bench players in that manner is far too intrusive and needlessly complicated.
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Post#893 » by Laimbeer » Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:37 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Agreed on both counts.


How about a total FGA limit of 15 for three bench players, stipulate none could be all-stars or play over 20 minutes.

Much prefer Dr P's idea. Restricting bench players in that manner is far too intrusive and needlessly complicated.


I don't think that restriction is quite stringent enough for 70s and forward, but how about if we do it this way along with tightening the span? 80s or 90s and forward? I'm not crazy about the 70s really.
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Post#894 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:23 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
How about a total FGA limit of 15 for three bench players, stipulate none could be all-stars or play over 20 minutes.

Much prefer Dr P's idea. Restricting bench players in that manner is far too intrusive and needlessly complicated.


I don't think that restriction is quite stringent enough for 70s and forward, but how about if we do it this way along with tightening the span? 80s or 90s and forward? I'm not crazy about the 70s really.

80s to now seems fine.
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Post#895 » by Laimbeer » Mon May 6, 2019 1:39 pm

FGA span draft. You pick one player from each of the eight FGA spans. No total FGA limit.

16.5 - (No max)
14.5 - 16.4
12.5 - 14.4
10.5 - 12.4
8.5 - 10.4
6.5 - 8.4
4.5 - 6.4
0 - 4.4
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4) The cap is going up
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Post#896 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon May 6, 2019 2:01 pm

Laimbeer wrote:FGA span draft. You pick one player from each of the eight FGA spans. No total FGA limit.

16.5 - (No max)
14.5 - 16.4
12.5 - 14.4
10.5 - 12.4
8.5 - 10.4
6.5 - 8.4
4.5 - 6.4
0 - 4.4

This is a fun idea.
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Post#897 » by Dr Positivity » Mon May 6, 2019 4:13 pm

Laimbeer wrote:FGA span draft. You pick one player from each of the eight FGA spans. No total FGA limit.

16.5 - (No max)
14.5 - 16.4
12.5 - 14.4
10.5 - 12.4
8.5 - 10.4
6.5 - 8.4
4.5 - 6.4
0 - 4.4


I like the idea but Magic would be an issue
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Post#898 » by Laimbeer » Mon May 6, 2019 5:14 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:FGA span draft. You pick one player from each of the eight FGA spans. No total FGA limit.

16.5 - (No max)
14.5 - 16.4
12.5 - 14.4
10.5 - 12.4
8.5 - 10.4
6.5 - 8.4
4.5 - 6.4
0 - 4.4


I like the idea but Magic would be an issue


Would he? He seems to have a similar type benefit in this game - elite player who doesn't take a lot of FGAs / high FGA slot.

BTW, I'm thinking I want to make the era limited to 90s and forward at most. If there are too many elite players it becomes an easier decision to fill lower slots sooner.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
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3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
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Post#899 » by Dr Positivity » Mon May 6, 2019 10:42 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:FGA span draft. You pick one player from each of the eight FGA spans. No total FGA limit.

16.5 - (No max)
14.5 - 16.4
12.5 - 14.4
10.5 - 12.4
8.5 - 10.4
6.5 - 8.4
4.5 - 6.4
0 - 4.4


I like the idea but Magic would be an issue


Would he? He seems to have a similar type benefit in this game - elite player who doesn't take a lot of FGAs / high FGA slot.

BTW, I'm thinking I want to make the era limited to 90s and forward at most. If there are too many elite players it becomes an easier decision to fill lower slots sooner.


I think the person who drafts Magic will still get great players with the top 2 slots, likely one of them an MVP. It will be very difficult for someone else with one MVP caliber player to compete. Or to put it another way of someone spends their first round on like Reggie Miller the difference between that and getting Magic is huge, and they may even have to use a higher slot
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Post#900 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon May 6, 2019 11:28 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
I like the idea but Magic would be an issue


Would he? He seems to have a similar type benefit in this game - elite player who doesn't take a lot of FGAs / high FGA slot.

BTW, I'm thinking I want to make the era limited to 90s and forward at most. If there are too many elite players it becomes an easier decision to fill lower slots sooner.


I think the person who drafts Magic will still get great players with the top 2 slots, likely one of them an MVP. It will be very difficult for someone else with one MVP caliber player to compete. Or to put it another way of someone spends their first round on like Reggie Miller the difference between that and getting Magic is huge, and they may even have to use a higher slot

Agreed. Should legislate against being able to pick an MVP with those lower slots.

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