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Post#321 » by Dn4sty » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:42 pm

RunOKC wrote:Billy will be back most likely

Presti "anticipates it"
I don't think Billy is a terrible coach but he's not the coach for this team


This is probably the case, yet Presti won’t fire him via a press conference
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Post#322 » by Pillendreher » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:33 pm

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"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#323 » by RalphSampsonJr » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:02 am

Pillendreher wrote:
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Westbrooks pride really is hurting the team this badly.
Id fire Billy just so i could find a guy that has the balls to sit Russ when he chucks up his crap
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Post#324 » by SecondTake » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:10 am

Pillendreher wrote:
SecondTake wrote:"Although the loss to Portland after a late year collapse would put most coaches under the hotseat, insiders within the Thunder organization believe that Donovans job is safe. We're told that the assistant coaching positions are being looked at with an eye towards a shakeup.

There has been friction between Donovan and members of the coaching staff who were advocating for lineup and offensive scheme adjustments that were ultimately rejected by Donovan. A big point of contention were the minutes being given to Schroder which coaching staff wanted to see reduced. Donovan considered him a starter coming off the bench, and believed that he would be a difference maker in the playoffs.

A roster shakeup isn't expected either. There's a belief within the organization that had defensive specialist Andre been healthy this team would have been headed towards the Western Conference Finals. Although it's too early to tell, it doesn't look like the Thunder are looking at making major changes this offseason."


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Post#325 » by SecondTake » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:11 am

Pillendreher wrote:The Denver Nuggets have won as many games in their first playoff series with this current group as we have won over the last 3 postseasons combined.


Its the spurs though. You dont think we beat that group too?
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Post#326 » by Dn4sty » Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:01 am

SecondTake wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
SecondTake wrote:"Although the loss to Portland after a late year collapse would put most coaches under the hotseat, insiders within the Thunder organization believe that Donovans job is safe. We're told that the assistant coaching positions are being looked at with an eye towards a shakeup.

There has been friction between Donovan and members of the coaching staff who were advocating for lineup and offensive scheme adjustments that were ultimately rejected by Donovan. A big point of contention were the minutes being given to Schroder which coaching staff wanted to see reduced. Donovan considered him a starter coming off the bench, and believed that he would be a difference maker in the playoffs.

A roster shakeup isn't expected either. There's a belief within the organization that had defensive specialist Andre been healthy this team would have been headed towards the Western Conference Finals. Although it's too early to tell, it doesn't look like the Thunder are looking at making major changes this offseason."


Either provide a source for this or I'm going to report it for yet another post with made up quotes/content. Zero search results for anything in this post.


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Post#327 » by NaturalThunder » Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:08 am

I seriously don't know how a major change/shakeup can't be made after three straight 1st round losses. The fact that Presti "anticipates" Donovan being our head coach for yet another season pretty much tells me all I need to know. He's a bigger problem then Donovan.

I'm borderline done with Thunder basketball if Donovan is still our head coach. Or, at the very least, Presti needs to find a way to add a couple of shooters to the roster.


Presti admitting he messed up not having enough wing-depth should be enough to get his *** fired. He still hasn't figured out how to build a competent supporting cast in today's NBA.
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Post#328 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:16 am

NaturalThunder wrote:I seriously don't know how a major change/shakeup can't be made after three straight 1st round losses. The fact that Presti "anticipates" Donovan being our head coach for yet another season pretty much tells me all I need to know. He's a bigger problem then Donovan.

I'm borderline done with Thunder basketball if Donovan is still our head coach. Or, at the very least, Presti needs to find a way to add a couple of shooters to the roster.


Presti admitting he messed up not having enough wing-depth should be enough to get his *** fired. He still hasn't figured out how to build a competent supporting cast in today's NBA.

Presti admitted this before the season started and there was ever an issue with Abrines. His failure at the deadline is inexcusable even if he takes blame for it.
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Post#329 » by jambalaya » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:22 am

Re Pill's table. 7 of the 8 teams still in playoffs have 3 or more such shooters. Only Denver doesn't.

Ideally you'd look at minutes and usage levels for these guys too. And / or just back out and look at team performance.
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Post#330 » by Old Man Game » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:05 am

Some of those quotes from Presti were mildly eyebrow raising. Only mildly. I think that's the first time I've ever heard him offer even faint criticism of Russ.

Also, f-er is delusional with all that 'maybe Steven can develop a 3' ****. That ship has sailed at this point. The guy doesn't even look at the rim outside of 10-12 feet.
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Post#331 » by jambalaya » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:16 am

One mystery is still mysterious in terms of details but is now not so mysterious to me as to what type of mystery it probably is. I had thoughts about it months ago but I am more sure what it is now. Not my business, but it is probably not the worst possible.
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Post#332 » by CROklahoma » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:46 am

jambalaya wrote:One mystery is still mysterious in terms of details but is now not so mysterious to me as to what type of mystery it probably is. I had thoughts about it months ago but I am more sure what it is now. Not my business, but it is probably not the worst possible.


Abrines ?
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Post#333 » by jambalaya » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:00 am

That is a logical guess.
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Post#334 » by CROklahoma » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:44 am

jambalaya wrote:That is a logical guess.


Whats your guess on it ?

Id say he got some sickness, considering his physical state throughout his OKC tenure, and team and him decided not to reveal it if he wants to continue his euroleague carrer somewhere else.
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Post#335 » by Pillendreher » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:54 am

NaturalThunder wrote:Presti admitting he messed up not having enough wing-depth should be enough to get his *** fired. He still hasn't figured out how to build a competent supporting cast in today's NBA.


It doesn't work that way. If it did, he would have been fired years ago for never providing this team wiht the neccessary shooters. Instead of finally going after those guys, he provided Durant and Westbrook with Dion Waiters and Enes Kanter.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#336 » by Pillendreher » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:59 am

And lo and behold, in their very next game Lillard and McCollum go 6-19 from 3. Against the Thunder, they shot 43/91, 47.3 percent.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#337 » by Pillendreher » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:37 am

In the last 5 seasons, 22 teams made the Playoffs and didn't make it out of the 1st round in the respective season. Out of those 22 teams, just 6 franchises got eliminated in the 1st round at least 3x:

Indiana: 4x
LA Clippers: 3x
Milwaukee: 3x
Oklahoma City: 3x
Portland: 3x
San Antonio: 3x

And here's the total games won by each of those 6 franchises in their first round eliminations:

Indiana: 6 games won in 4 eliminations
LA Clippers: 7 games won in 3 eliminations
Milwaukee: 7 games won in 3 eliminations
Oklahoma City: 4 games won in 3 eliminations
Portland: 1 game won in 3 eliminations
San Antonio: 7 games won in 3 eliminations

One could say that our struggles to get out of the 1st round have been the 2nd worst in the entire league and we just got embarassed by the team got two swept two 1st rounds in a row.

EDIT: Since Durant left, the Thunder have the 2nd fewest postseason wings amongst all teams that didn't just make it to the Playoffs once. This is what Presti calls "sustainability".
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#338 » by Old Man Game » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:48 pm

Pillendreher wrote:And lo and behold, in their very next game Lillard and McCollum go 6-19 from 3. Against the Thunder, they shot 43/91, 47.3 percent.


I think there's a decent chance this series mirrors our own with Portland but with Portland in our role. They'll get hot at home and win a game but otherwise they're just too outmatched. You can't play Enes Kanter against an All Star center like a Jokic and not get burned.
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Post#339 » by Old Man Game » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:52 pm

Pillendreher wrote:In the last 5 seasons, 22 teams made the Playoffs and didn't make it out of the 1st round in the respective season. Out of those 22 teams, just 6 franchises got eliminated in the 1st round at least 3x:

Indiana: 4x
LA Clippers: 3x
Milwaukee: 3x
Oklahoma City: 3x
Portland: 3x
San Antonio: 3x

And here's the total games won by each of those 6 franchises in their first round eliminations:

Indiana: 6 games won in 4 eliminations
LA Clippers: 7 games won in 3 eliminations
Milwaukee: 7 games won in 3 eliminations
Oklahoma City: 4 games won in 3 eliminations
Portland: 1 game won in 3 eliminations
San Antonio: 7 games won in 3 eliminations

One could say that our struggles to get out of the 1st round have been the 2nd worst in the entire league and we just got embarassed by the team got two swept two 1st rounds in a row.

EDIT: Since Durant left, the Thunder have the 2nd fewest postseason wings amongst all teams that didn't just make it to the Playoffs once. This is what Presti calls "sustainability".


This is sort of what I'd always feared when that phrase started being uttered by the organization a few years ago. It's "success" only in the loosest possible terms. It's more like 'continually above .500 but no actual threat to do anything anyone will remember or give a **** about.'
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Post#340 » by Pillendreher » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:56 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:In the last 5 seasons, 22 teams made the Playoffs and didn't make it out of the 1st round in the respective season. Out of those 22 teams, just 6 franchises got eliminated in the 1st round at least 3x:

Indiana: 4x
LA Clippers: 3x
Milwaukee: 3x
Oklahoma City: 3x
Portland: 3x
San Antonio: 3x

And here's the total games won by each of those 6 franchises in their first round eliminations:

Indiana: 6 games won in 4 eliminations
LA Clippers: 7 games won in 3 eliminations
Milwaukee: 7 games won in 3 eliminations
Oklahoma City: 4 games won in 3 eliminations
Portland: 1 game won in 3 eliminations
San Antonio: 7 games won in 3 eliminations

One could say that our struggles to get out of the 1st round have been the 2nd worst in the entire league and we just got embarassed by the team got two swept two 1st rounds in a row.

EDIT: Since Durant left, the Thunder have the 2nd fewest postseason wings amongst all teams that didn't just make it to the Playoffs once. This is what Presti calls "sustainability".


This is sort of what I'd always feared when that phrase started being uttered by the organization a few years ago. It's "success" only in the loosest possible terms. It's more like 'continually above .500 but no actual threat to do anything anyone will remember or give a **** about.'


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He'll keep playing this angle until the fanbase puts an end to it by not buying into his bull anymore. He's acting like this is year 2 and the whole town is just happy that the franchise is in OKC. Like the oncourt product doesn't matter.
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