WCSF | (1) Golden State Warriors vs (4) Houston Rockets, Part Two (Series tied 2-2)

WEB IV · Post #81 » by **WEB IV** » Wed May 1, 2019 7:03 pm

I'm tired of seeing the Warriors win, but when they play the Rockets, I can't help but root for them anyways.

Full Disclosure: I'm a bitter Jazz fan who has watched his team get bounced by the Rockets two straight seasons.

Post #82 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed May 1, 2019 7:28 pm

Congrats to the Rockets for setting basketball back, I dunno, to when it was impossibly bad to watch. Golden State has only been somewhat better.

This series is the absolute worst and I hope whomever comes out of Denver/Portland sends the winner back to hell where they belong.

jason bourne · Post #83 » by **jason bourne** » Wed May 1, 2019 7:31 pm

I think we saw the complaining of the refs really hurt the Rockets. They completely forgot about getting Clint Capela involved in the offense with his high FG% and rebounding. That said, the Warriors had too many weapons and were playing nice rotating defense in game 2. Andrew Bogut did not have to get involved. Despite all this, the Warriors have only held serve and home court advantage. What will be telling is game 3. If the Warriors can step up what they have been doing by cutting down turnovers and continue shooting inside and getting to the line, then they should be able to really put their foot on the throats of the Rockets.

freethedevil · Post #84 » by **freethedevil** » Wed May 1, 2019 8:06 pm

DonaldSanders wrote:
freethedevil wrote:
Yank3525 wrote:
I would be surprised if that happens. I picked GS to win in 5. People point to last year series going to seven, but looking at point differential that series was not as close as the seven games suggest.

They were missing their own version of iggy the entire series.

I don't think Mbah a Moute is comparable to Iggy. The comp to Iggy was Ariza, who is gone this year. I'd say Mbah is more valuable than McCaw who was recovering from in injury during the 2017-2018 playoffs, but not in Iggy range. I don't think it was as big as you are making it out to be, considering all injured parties.

How he compares to iggy isn't all that relevant. What amtters is his value to his own team. Given he was their best wing defender, and it was shoddy wing d that allowed the warriors to smash them in 2 of 3 games, i think that's very relevant.

Ulitimately the version of the rockets the warriors were a farcry from their 65 win selves.

WarriorGM · Post #85 » by **WarriorGM** » Wed May 1, 2019 8:11 pm

freethedevil wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:
freethedevil wrote:They were missing their own version of iggy the entire series.

I don't think Mbah a Moute is comparable to Iggy. The comp to Iggy was Ariza, who is gone this year. I'd say Mbah is more valuable than McCaw who was recovering from in injury during the 2017-2018 playoffs, but not in Iggy range. I don't think it was as big as you are making it out to be, considering all injured parties.

How he compares to iggy isn't all that relevant. What amtters is his value to his own team. Given he was their best wing defender, and it was shoddy wing d that allowed the warriors to smash them in 2 of 3 games, i think that's very relevant.

Ulitimately the version of the rockets the warriors were a farcry from their 65 win selves.

The best version of the Warriors wasn't the one the Rockets faced either. Aside from having Iguodala the best version has its offense run through Curry. Due to Curry's injury the offense was running through KD.

freethedevil · Post #86 » by **freethedevil** » Wed May 1, 2019 8:22 pm

WarriorGM wrote:
freethedevil wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:

I don't think Mbah a Moute is comparable to Iggy. The comp to Iggy was Ariza, who is gone this year. I'd say Mbah is more valuable than McCaw who was recovering from in injury during the 2017-2018 playoffs, but not in Iggy range. I don't think it was as big as you are making it out to be, considering all injured parties.

How he compares to iggy isn't all that relevant. What amtters is his value to his own team. Given he was their best wing defender, and it was shoddy wing d that allowed the warriors to smash them in 2 of 3 games, i think that's very relevant.

Ulitimately the version of the rockets the warriors were a farcry from their 65 win selves.

The best version of the Warriors wasn't the one the Rockets faced either. Aside from having Iguodala the best version has its offense run through Curry. Due to Curry's injury the offense was running through KD.

Really?

DonaldSanders · Post #87 » by **DonaldSanders** » Wed May 1, 2019 8:37 pm

freethedevil wrote:How he compares to iggy isn't all that relevant. What amtters is his value to his own team. Given he was their best wing defender, and it was shoddy wing d that allowed the warriors to smash them in 2 of 3 games, i think that's very relevant.

Ulitimately the version of the rockets the warriors were a farcry from their 65 win selves.

I'll agree to disagree on Iggy. We were specifically mentioning him, so I think it is quite relevant.

freethedevil wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
freethedevil wrote:How he compares to iggy isn't all that relevant. What amtters is his value to his own team. Given he was their best wing defender, and it was shoddy wing d that allowed the warriors to smash them in 2 of 3 games, i think that's very relevant.

Ulitimately the version of the rockets the warriors were a farcry from their 65 win selves.

The best version of the Warriors wasn't the one the Rockets faced either. Aside from having Iguodala the best version has its offense run through Curry. Due to Curry's injury the offense was running through KD.

Really?

If we're getting to the point where your comparing a Mbah a moute loss to Iggy, then yeah people will bring up the fact that Curry wasn't 100%, and neither was McCaw.

badass316 · Post #88 » by **badass316** » Wed May 1, 2019 8:43 pm

I hope it's a sweep. Make it anti-climatic and minimize all the drama from the other team. They can't really bitch and moan if they're swept.

TaylorTRoom · Post #89 » by **TaylorTRoom** » Wed May 1, 2019 9:18 pm

GS being up 2-0 after not yet having a Curry or Thompson breakout is bad news for Houston.

XtremeDunkz · Post #90 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Wed May 1, 2019 9:32 pm

Jesus 3 days in between games?

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ShotCreator · Post #91 » by **ShotCreator** » Wed May 1, 2019 9:34 pm

TaylorTRoom wrote:GS being up 2-0 after not yet having a Curry or Thompson breakout is bad news for Houston.

Does defense not exist?

inquisitive · Post #92 » by **inquisitive** » Wed May 1, 2019 10:13 pm

Rockets need to cut down on turnovers. If they do, they can win both games at home easily.

evilpimp972 · Post #93 » by **evilpimp972** » Wed May 1, 2019 10:20 pm

inquisitive wrote:Rockets need to cut down on turnovers. If they do, they can win both games at home easily.

Easily ? They better hope Curry doesnt wake up.

Spanish_Laker · Post #94 » by **Spanish_Laker** » Wed May 1, 2019 11:12 pm

It's over. They could have gone up 2-0 but instead they're 0-2. GSW on the road plays so loose and with full confidence, so it's a sweep most probably fellas.

gmoney411 · Post #95 » by **gmoney411** » Wed May 1, 2019 11:20 pm

DonaldSanders wrote:
freethedevil wrote:How he compares to iggy isn't all that relevant. What amtters is his value to his own team. Given he was their best wing defender, and it was shoddy wing d that allowed the warriors to smash them in 2 of 3 games, i think that's very relevant.

Ulitimately the version of the rockets the warriors were a farcry from their 65 win selves.

I'll agree to disagree on Iggy. We were specifically mentioning him, so I think it is quite relevant.

freethedevil wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
The best version of the Warriors wasn't the one the Rockets faced either. Aside from having Iguodala the best version has its offense run through Curry. Due to Curry's injury the offense was running through KD.

Really?

If we're getting to the point where your comparing a Mbah a moute loss to Iggy, then yeah people will bring up the fact that Curry wasn't 100%, and neither was McCaw.

Luc was the best wing defender on the Rockets last year, their third best 3 point shooter by %, and their best playmaker behind Harden and Paul. Their best lineups last year always included him. So sure he's not Iggy, but he was the 5th guy for the Rockets just like Iggy was the 5th for the Warriors. It was a big loss for them.

basketballwacko2 · Post #96 » by **basketballwacko2** » Wed May 1, 2019 11:29 pm

inquisitive wrote:Rockets need to cut down on turnovers. If they do, they can win both games at home easily.

Harden is a great player but he is a turnover machine.

TaylorTRoom · Post #97 » by **TaylorTRoom** » Wed May 1, 2019 11:35 pm

The Rockets system is based on lots of threes and shot at the rim, with minimal ball movement. Their strategy is to limit turnovers by limiting passing. That system has yet to prove workable against playoff defenses.

https://stats.nba.com/teams/isolation/?sort=POSS_PCT&dir=1

Houston iso’s More than anybody else in the playoffs.

woosah · Post #98 » by **woosah** » Wed May 1, 2019 11:54 pm

TaylorTRoom wrote:The Rockets system is based on lots of threes and shot at the rim, with minimal ball movement. Their strategy is to limit turnovers by limiting passing. That system has yet to prove workable against playoff defenses.

https://stats.nba.com/teams/isolation/?sort=POSS_PCT&dir=1

Houston iso’s More than anybody else in the playoffs.

So if they fail again (some say when they fail) will they get rid of MDA and try another style?

Fedor · Post #99 » by **Fedor** » Wed May 1, 2019 11:54 pm

Rockets lost when they started focusing on the refs instead of the ball game

Ado05 · Post #100 » by **Ado05** » Thu May 2, 2019 12:00 am

Two pretty close games yet it feels like the Rockets are nowhere near GS.

What's your prediction?