The Gasol trade was our downfall

[Raps in 4]

JV's defense this season has been better than Gasol's. Stop thinking this is 2013.

Gasol DRPM: 2.98
JV DRPM: 1.66

P&R Defence:

Gasol:



JV:



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JV can only guard other bigs under the basket. He gets completely exposed on the P&R.

[demarlegend12]

Marc Gasol had a .245 WS/48, 7.7 BPM, and 0.5 VORP in the playoffs heading into this game. Quite the downfall.

Now, look at Gasol's this season playoff 2nd round stats.
He was decent player when he was young and could score, but currently he isn't the player we were looking for.

[Useyourhead]

JV's defense this season has been better than Gasol's. Stop thinking this is 2013.

Gasol DRPM: 2.98
JV DRPM: 1.66

P&R Defence:

Gasol:



JV:



viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1824316

JV can only guard other bigs under the basket. He gets completely exposed on the P&R.

PnR is the only area Marc is better and Marc can get steals. JV is by far the better rim protector, help defender, and most importantly rebounder! THat's on D, and JV completely dominates him on the offensive end.

[visionquest]

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[Patman]

Raps haven't had a reliable big-game C since Bismack Biyombo.

This makes zero sense. Literally all 3 of JV, Serge, and Marc have better bodies of work as a Raptor than Biz.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

QUIET FOOLS. The all knowing all seeing supremely knowledgable Kendrick Perkins hath spoken.

I was about 70% sure you burned me with a fake tweet until I checked its veracity.

[CoachJReturns]

This is the one series we all knew JV would have been a big help. The team is just so small and Philly starts a 6'10 point guard. They're giants.

[agkagk]

It was a good trade he fortified the defense.

As for offense that’s on coach nurse for not involving him more.

Pardon me, that’s offensive guru nick nurse.

[Patman]

JV's defense this season has been better than Gasol's. Stop thinking this is 2013.

Gasol DRPM: 2.98
JV DRPM: 1.66

P&R Defence:

Gasol:



JV:



viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1824316

JV can only guard other bigs under the basket. He gets completely exposed on the P&R.

PnR is the only area Marc is better and Marc can get steals. JV is by far the better rim protector, help defender, and most importantly rebounder! THat's on D, and JV completely dominates him on the offensive end.

JV is an awful help defender. Please share what you're smoking.

[Chandan]

We traded away steadiness for high variance.

Gasol's entire offensive game is predicated on him hitting his 3 pointers. he has no post move to speak of (or he hasn't shown them yet) When he's hitting his 3, on paper the raptors are hard to beat. But when his shot isn't falling when his defender cheats off him, the entire offense that uses him as a facilitator falls apart.

[Useyourhead]

Gasol DRPM: 2.98
JV DRPM: 1.66

P&R Defence:

Gasol:



JV:



viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1824316

JV can only guard other bigs under the basket. He gets completely exposed on the P&R.

PnR is the only area Marc is better and Marc can get steals. JV is by far the better rim protector, help defender, and most importantly rebounder! THat's on D, and JV completely dominates him on the offensive end.

JV is an awful help defender. Please share what you're smoking.

Ok i'll correct he's the far better rim protector, and he's as good as Marc as a help defender, did you watch tonight's game, Marc was either too slow or did not even bother because he looked gassed out there

[Raps in 4]

PnR is the only area Marc is better and Marc can get steals. JV is by far the better rim protector, help defender, and most importantly rebounder! THat's on D, and JV completely dominates him on the offensive end.

JV is an awful help defender. Please share what you're smoking.

Ok i'll correct he's the far better rim protector, and he's as good as Marc as a help defender, did you watch tonight's game, Marc was either too slow or did not even bother because he looked gassed out there

And did you watch the previous 7 games?

[Patman]

PnR is the only area Marc is better and Marc can get steals. JV is by far the better rim protector, help defender, and most importantly rebounder! THat's on D, and JV completely dominates him on the offensive end.

JV is an awful help defender. Please share what you're smoking.

Ok i'll correct he's the far better rim protector, and he's as good as Marc as a help defender, did you watch tonight's game, Marc was either too slow or did not even bother because he looked gassed out there

Oh I see. So we're making sweeping statements based on 2 games now. In that case, Biyombo should have won DPOY for the 2 games he bullied the Cavs.

Also JV is a better rim protector but not by much. He's a better shotblocker than Marc for sure. But that's not all what rim protecting is. Otherwise Javale is a premier rim protector.

[Useyourhead]

JV is an awful help defender. Please share what you're smoking.

Ok i'll correct he's the far better rim protector, and he's as good as Marc as a help defender, did you watch tonight's game, Marc was either too slow or did not even bother because he looked gassed out there

Oh I see. So we're making sweeping statements based on 2 games now. In that case, Biyombo should have won DPOY for the 2 games he bullied the Cavs.

The magic do not have dynamic elite scoring wings or pg. The game that matter are the ones we should be paying attention to i.e. against philly, boston, Milwaukee, teams that we need to get through given this team has finals/championship aspirations

[Raps in 4]

Ok i'll correct he's the far better rim protector, and he's as good as Marc as a help defender, did you watch tonight's game, Marc was either too slow or did not even bother because he looked gassed out there

Oh I see. So we're making sweeping statements based on 2 games now. In that case, Biyombo should have won DPOY for the 2 games he bullied the Cavs.

The magic do not have dynamic elite scoring wings or pg. The game that matter are the ones we should be paying attention to i.e. against philly, boston, Milwaukee, teams that we need to get through given this team has finals/championship aspirations

Gasol completely shut down Embiid in games 1 and 2.

[Red_Claw]

JV is an awful help defender. Please share what you're smoking.

Ok i'll correct he's the far better rim protector, and he's as good as Marc as a help defender, did you watch tonight's game, Marc was either too slow or did not even bother because he looked gassed out there

Oh I see. So we're making sweeping statements based on 2 games now. In that case, Biyombo should have won DPOY for the 2 games he bullied the Cavs.

Anyone would agree Gasol is a better defender in all facets minus protecting the rim but defence doesn't matter if you can't get the rebound!! And thats something that Gasol has never done well as a Raptor. I don't single him out cause the whole team needs to rebound better, but our team was never that great to begin with and now we've replaced JV's elite rebounding with average to subaverage rebounding numbers of Gasol, i think its the weakness teams know we have and will exploit it till they lose.

[mowcrowbar]

JV's defense this season has been better than Gasol's. Stop thinking this is 2013.

Gasol DRPM: 2.98
JV DRPM: 1.66

P&R Defence:

Gasol:



JV:



viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1824316

JV can only guard other bigs under the basket. He gets completely exposed on the P&R.

PnR is the only area Marc is better and Marc can get steals. JV is by far the better rim protector, help defender, and most importantly rebounder! THat's on D, and JV completely dominates him on the offensive end.

Clearly that username was intended as a reminder to yourself, Gasol had an off defensive game today but he completely shut down Vuc and Embiid prior to today’s. If you want to blame someone, blame our point guards for being consistently inconsistent, or just flat out bad.

[BigShaq34]

Oh I see. So we're making sweeping statements based on 2 games now. In that case, Biyombo should have won DPOY for the 2 games he bullied the Cavs.

The magic do not have dynamic elite scoring wings or pg. The game that matter are the ones we should be paying attention to i.e. against philly, boston, Milwaukee, teams that we need to get through given this team has finals/championship aspirations

Gasol completely shut down Embiid in games 1 and 2.

I'm not talking about his post defense on Embiid. Tonight Marc got punked plain and simple.

His scoring and rebounding is the issue. You can pass all you want but you'll never be truly effective if you yourself aren't a threat to score. He passes up too many looks its infuriating. Plus on the glass he is terrible.

Normally against other teams like the bucks we wouldnt need JV but against the Sixers we could definitely use his rebounding. Their size is destroying us.

[Useyourhead]

Oh I see. So we're making sweeping statements based on 2 games now. In that case, Biyombo should have won DPOY for the 2 games he bullied the Cavs.

The magic do not have dynamic elite scoring wings or pg. The game that matter are the ones we should be paying attention to i.e. against philly, boston, Milwaukee, teams that we need to get through given this team has finals/championship aspirations

Gasol completely shut down Embiid in games 1 and 2.

First of all embid has been getting injections for his knee and had the stomach fly for game 2. He should shut down a player in that state, JV shut down a "healthy" embid last time they played and he scored on him, killed him on both ends of the floor. Cna you even imagine Gasol making 1/4 of those moves? I think not.

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Embid had this to say afterwards, people forget that JV could handle embid and think we somehow would have been screwed had we not gotten gasol, majority of the board lives day to day and have amnesia. This team was definitely beating the sixers with JV and and improved pascal since Dec 5th and delon. Embid was held to 5/17 shooting and had the worst plus minus at MINUS 23 and JV shot 9-13, scored 26 pts in 18 mins and led the team in plus minus. This was also after the butler trade: http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401071040&wsVar=us~nba~gamepackage,desktop,en

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[Useyourhead]

Gasol DRPM: 2.98
JV DRPM: 1.66

P&R Defence:

Gasol:



JV:



viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1824316

JV can only guard other bigs under the basket. He gets completely exposed on the P&R.

PnR is the only area Marc is better and Marc can get steals. JV is by far the better rim protector, help defender, and most importantly rebounder! THat's on D, and JV completely dominates him on the offensive end.

Clearly that username was intended as a reminder to yourself, Gasol had an off defensive game today but he completely shut down Vuc and Embiid prior to today’s. If you want to blame someone, blame our point guards for being consistently inconsistent, or just flat out bad.

No my username is explained with post above