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Milwaukee Brewers at Arizona D'Backs, 8-20-07, 8:40 PM

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Milwaukee Brewers at Arizona D'Backs, 8-20-07, 8:40 PM 

Post#1 » by Captain Erv » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:41 am

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Records at Glance: Brewers: 63-61, 2nd NL Central; D'Backs: 71-54, 1st NL West

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Yovani Gallardo, RHP (4-3, 4.84)

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Doug Davis, LHP (10-10, 3.92)

Scouting Report

Brewers: Gallardo turned in his second consecutive poor start when he got hammered for seven earned runs in 5 2/3 innings against the Cardinals his last time out. The 21-year-old gave up 11 earned runs in 2 2/3 innings in his previous start against the Rockies and has gone 1-2 with a 10.35 ERA in his past four starts. He sported a 2.18 ERA after his first eight appearances of the season -- five of them starts.


D'Backs: Davis has been on top of his game over the past couple of months. The left-hander has won his last five decisions and the D-backs have won his last seven starts. In his last outing, he held the Marlins to four runs over 5 1/3 innings. That line is a bit skewed because of a three-run homer he allowed to the last batter he faced, Cody Ross. This will be Davis' second start against his former team. He got a no-decision in Milwaukee in July when he allowed two runs over six innings.

Injury Report

Brewers

Ben Sheets -- 15-day DL (distal sprain of right middle finger)
Tony Graffanino -- Out for year (torn right ACL)

D'Backs
Chad Tracy -- 15-day DL (right knee strain)
Carlos Quentin -- 15-day DL (right hamstring strain)
Randy Johnson -- Out for year (back surgery)


Brewers Probable Lineup:
2B Rickie Weeks
RF Corey Hart
1B Prince Fielder
3B Ryan Braun
LF Kevin Mench
C Johnny Estrada
CF Bill Hall
SS JJ Hardy
P Yovani Gallardo


D'Backs Probable Lineup:

CF Chris Young
2B Orlando Hudson
LF Eric Byrnes
1B Conor Jackson
3B Mark Reynolds
C Chris Snyder
RF Justin Upton
SS Stephen Drew
P Doug Davis


Captain Erv's Thoughts: Well I have been pretty much one and done on game threads lately. I'm not even sure what to say about this team. I wasn't even surprised or mad for that matter about Sunday's loss to the Reds. I'm not sure if that is a sign that I've just come to accept the demise of this season. Anyway, this nine-game trip could be the final nail in the season.
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Post#2 » by Black Jesus 1 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:59 am

OoOoO, goody!

I expect Braun to homer atleast twice this series, both off of Livan Tuesday. I want to catch a game. Probably Wednesday's though.
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Post#3 » by Nowak008 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:43 am

I have been out of town for a while, how long has Braun been batting clean up?
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Post#4 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:47 am

Fielder and Braun got flipped a few games ago.
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Post#5 » by Captain Erv » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:00 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Fielder and Braun got flipped a few games ago.


coincidentally or not, 1-5 since the lineup change.
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Post#6 » by WEFFPIM » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:10 am

Nowak008 wrote:I have been out of town for a while, how long has Braun been batting clean up?


I think it started when the homestand started. Both have been very good this homestand, but no one else has.

Brewers get swept.
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Post#7 » by livestrong4ever » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:13 am

Captain Erv 40 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



coincidentally or not, 1-5 since the lineup change.


Don't blame the offense for the 1-5. How many runs do you expect the brewers to score to win a game. Moving hardy to the 8th spot was a good idea.
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Post#8 » by WEFFPIM » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:38 am

livestrong4ever wrote:Don't blame the offense for the 1-5. How many runs do you expect the brewers to score to win a game. Moving hardy to the 8th spot was a good idea.


As I said before, 10 runs the first 4 games of the homestand is not good offense.
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Post#9 » by livestrong4ever » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:44 am

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As I said before, 10 runs the first 4 games of the homestand is not good offense.


Brewers scored 3 runs or more in all put one game where they scored 0 runs.

I think thats doing pretty good to me. The pitching needs to step it up.

4 3 0 3 8 7
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Post#10 » by WEFFPIM » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:45 am

livestrong4ever wrote:Brewers scored 3 runs or more in all put one game where they scored 0 runs.

I think thats doing pretty good to me. The pitching needs to step it up.

4 3 0 3 8 7


Seems rather mediocre to me. Scoring three runs a game will win you maybe half the games. 5 runs a game is a sign of a good offense.
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Post#11 » by Black Jesus 1 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:47 am

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Brewers scored 3 runs or more in all put one game where they scored 0 runs.

I think thats doing pretty good to me. The pitching needs to step it up.

4 3 0 3 8 7
3 is below the league average. 0 is Padre-esque. 4 USUALLY wins games, but don't always count on it. 8 and 7 is good, though.
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Post#12 » by livestrong4ever » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:58 am

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Seems rather mediocre to me. Scoring three runs a game will win you maybe half the games. 5 runs a game is a sign of a good offense.


How many teams avarage 5 runs in a season?

So far this season only 6 teams have been

NYY Tigers philly Redsox rookies and laa.

If you average 5 runs you have a great offense. If you can average 4 runs I think that is a sign of a good offense. But I guess not with the brewers because of our issues with our pitching. The brewers though have averaged 4.7 runs. If I am reading my stats right tonight.
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Post#13 » by Buck You » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:55 am

We will get swept and laughed out of Arizona.
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Post#14 » by Black Jesus 1 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:00 am

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:We will get swept and laughed out of Arizona.
Eh, regardless of how you guys have played lately, Livan is a hitters dream. I think you guys will have no problem touching him up for multiple runs. Davis and Webb are killing it, though.
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Post#15 » by trwi7 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:07 am

How many teams avarage 5 runs in a season?


Several average around 5.

Teams that average at least 4.7 RPG.

Texas
Cincinnati
Milwaukee
New York Mets
Florida
Seattle
Atlanta
Cleveland
Colorado
Boston
Philadelphia
Detroit
New York Yankees

So 13 out of 30 teams average at least 4.7 RPG. 18 out of 30 average at least 4.5 RPG.

If you can average 4 runs I think that is a sign of a good offense.


No that's actually a pretty horrible offense. It would be 29th out of 30 this year behind only the Nationals who score 3.86 RPG.

Black Jesus 1 wrote:0 is Padre-esque.


Funny you use the Padres since they average more RPG than the D'Backs. :lol:

willeatfire4playoffsinmil wrote:Seems rather mediocre to me. Scoring three runs a game will win you maybe half the games.


No 3 runs is actually horrid and you would probably lose 2 out of every 3 games if you're lucky.
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Post#16 » by trwi7 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:12 am

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Eh, regardless of how you guys have played lately, Livan is a hitters dream. I think you guys will have no problem touching him up for multiple runs. Davis and Webb are killing it, though.


How freakin' lucky has he been?

The guy has a below league average ERA despite a horrible BB/9 ratio, high WHIP, average K/9 ratio, horrible K/BB ratio and average BABIP.

The only thing saving his ass is a slightly above average HR/9 ratio and a good LOB%
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Post#17 » by Buck You » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:27 am

Black Jesus 1 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Eh, regardless of how you guys have played lately, Livan is a hitters dream. I think you guys will have no problem touching him up for multiple runs. Davis and Webb are killing it, though.


The Brewers are a pitchers dream.
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Post#18 » by trwi7 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:47 am

Am I the only one here who likes late night baseball?
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Post#19 » by goirish2107 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:54 am

trwi7 wrote:Am I the only one here who likes late night baseball?


love stayin up late to watch/listen. i remember listening to an extra-innings game real late (for me) when i was 8 or 9. it was great, gantner hit a walk-off before they came back from commercial, first hr in a long long time i remember.
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Post#20 » by Nowak008 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:38 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Fielder and Braun got flipped a few games ago.


Any reason given? Has it worked?

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