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The Kyrie thread - he probably doesnt bleed green

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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#421 » by Froob » Fri May 3, 2019 4:40 pm

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I dont know— he looks much happier lately, especially now that everyone is rightfully acknowledging him as GS’s best player.


Agreed. All it really takes is for Kerr, Curry and Green to all admit that they need him, and to say this openly in public. I dunno what the hell Bob Myers was doing last year when he was poking fun at KD for not being a "lifer" during their championship parade. I get that he was being facetious, but when you look at KD, it looked like he wasn't enjoying the jokes.

They’ll never love him like Steph and Klay.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#422 » by Banks2Pierce » Fri May 3, 2019 4:43 pm

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Honestly, I agree with him, he IS a basketball genius, but just leave that ONE line out.


Nah, keep saying it. It's true and riles up the boomers and people that act like boomers.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#423 » by Trippinskarlo » Fri May 3, 2019 5:59 pm

I'm sorry Kyrie for being mean :cry:
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Post#424 » by cloverleaf » Fri May 3, 2019 7:17 pm

watsonthedragon wrote:In Macmullan's new article:

"I've been playing basketball a lot longer than some of these people analyzing the game,' Irving says. "I'm an actual genius when it comes to this game.

"If you ask me about basketball, I will talk all day. If you ask me about spacing at the 3:33 mark of the second quarter, I will gladly explain it. I'll tell you what plays worked, about adjustments we make. But when it comes to personal things, or comparing myself to my NBA brothers, like, 'Do you think you are better than this guy?' I'm out."

Honestly, I agree with him, he IS a basketball genius, but just leave that ONE line out.


Exactly. He's doing better, but it is really like he can't help himself.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#425 » by truth18 » Fri May 3, 2019 7:21 pm

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I dont know— he looks much happier lately, especially now that everyone is rightfully acknowledging him as GS’s best player.


Agreed. All it really takes is for Kerr, Curry and Green to all admit that they need him, and to say this openly in public. I dunno what the hell Bob Myers was doing last year when he was poking fun at KD for not being a "lifer" during their championship parade. I get that he was being facetious, but when you look at KD, it looked like he wasn't enjoying the jokes.

They’ll never love him like Steph and Klay.


And they'll never love them like they loved Monta.



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watsonthedragon wrote:
Honestly, I agree with him, he IS a basketball genius, but just leave that ONE line out.


Nah, keep saying it. It's true and riles up the boomers and people that act like boomers.


Yup. Not exactly a sly flex per se but flex on everyone regardless, **** it.
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Post#426 » by Parliament10 » Fri May 3, 2019 7:58 pm

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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#427 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri May 3, 2019 11:54 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:
watsonthedragon wrote:
Honestly, I agree with him, he IS a basketball genius, but just leave that ONE line out.


Nah, keep saying it. It's true and riles up the boomers and people that act like boomers.


Lebron is said to have the memory to recall and analyze every play. I'm fine with calling that a very high BB IQ. And if Irving wants to once brag "Hey, I can do that too", that's fine as well.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#428 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat May 4, 2019 2:51 am

Yah Kyrie is likely gone. And were going to be seriously bad next year. Our chemistry may improve, so atleast we have that, I guess...
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Post#429 » by jirrit » Sat May 4, 2019 2:53 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah Kyrie is likely gone. And were going to be seriously bad next year. Our chemistry may improve, so atleast we have that, I guess...


Why is he gone?
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Post#430 » by brackdan70 » Sat May 4, 2019 2:55 am

I was posting a great personal attack when that idiotic “ I am ok if Kyrie goes” thread got locked. Oh well, all for the best probably. Bottom line is he is the Cs best player and we are in this series. Losing at home is tough but experiences strengthen one... hard ones more so. Kyrie and the Cs will return in heroic fashion in game 4. The Hero’s journey is nothing without a little adversity. C us rise and **** like that.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#431 » by Bleeding Green » Sat May 4, 2019 2:58 am

jirrit wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah Kyrie is likely gone. And were going to be seriously bad next year. Our chemistry may improve, so atleast we have that, I guess...


Why is he gone?

Because they just lost a basketball game. Check back after Game 4 if Kyrie has a good game and the Celtics win.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#432 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat May 4, 2019 2:59 am

jirrit wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah Kyrie is likely gone. And were going to be seriously bad next year. Our chemistry may improve, so atleast we have that, I guess...


Why is he gone?


Just my own personal feelings.

The only plus side is that hes going to be just as **** miserable in NY and they’ll turn on him quickly.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#433 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat May 4, 2019 3:00 am

Bleeding Green wrote:
jirrit wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah Kyrie is likely gone. And were going to be seriously bad next year. Our chemistry may improve, so atleast we have that, I guess...


Why is he gone?

Because they just lost a basketball game. Check back after Game 4 if Kyrie has a good game and the Celtics win.


Naw, been feeling that way for a while to be honest. Thought there was a chance he takes a 1+1, but my gut tells me he’s gone.

To be clear, I want to keep him badly, I just dont see him sticking around.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#434 » by Jaqua92 » Sat May 4, 2019 3:08 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
jirrit wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah Kyrie is likely gone. And were going to be seriously bad next year. Our chemistry may improve, so atleast we have that, I guess...


Why is he gone?


Just my own personal feelings.

The only plus side is that hes going to be just as **** miserable in NY and they’ll turn on him quickly.
If him being miserable is a positive to you, then you are too invested in this stuff man ;)

Kidding aside,I get what you mean

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Post#435 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat May 4, 2019 3:11 am

Jaqua92 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
jirrit wrote:
Why is he gone?


Just my own personal feelings.

The only plus side is that hes going to be just as **** miserable in NY and they’ll turn on him quickly.
If him being miserable is a positive to you, then you are too invested in this stuff man ;)

Kidding aside,I get what you mean

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Hah— to be clear, I wish he’d find happiness in basketball. From what I’ve seen, I dont think he’ll ever find it— dude was miserable next to LeBron and miserable with his own team. Some dudes are just wired that way.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#436 » by CSL_1904 » Sat May 4, 2019 3:18 am

Hope he leaves.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#437 » by Jaqua92 » Sat May 4, 2019 3:27 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Just my own personal feelings.

The only plus side is that hes going to be just as **** miserable in NY and they’ll turn on him quickly.
If him being miserable is a positive to you, then you are too invested in this stuff man ;)

Kidding aside,I get what you mean

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Hah— to be clear, I wish he’d find happiness in basketball. From what I’ve seen, I dont think he’ll ever find it— dude was miserable next to LeBron and miserable with his own team. Some dudes are just wired that way.
He's talented, but he's got a personality not meant for superstardom. He's better off studying sociology lol

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Post#438 » by truth18 » Sat May 4, 2019 3:30 am

Jaqua92 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:If him being miserable is a positive to you, then you are too invested in this stuff man ;)

Kidding aside,I get what you mean

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Hah— to be clear, I wish he’d find happiness in basketball. From what I’ve seen, I dont think he’ll ever find it— dude was miserable next to LeBron and miserable with his own team. Some dudes are just wired that way.
He's talented, but he's got a personality not meant for superstardom. He's better off studying sociology lol

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What is a personality suited for stardom?

Do you want him to punch Tatum in the face and go get wasted gambling all night?

Should he pave a new driveway for himself and throw out his back shortening his career for years?

Even dudes like Magic have PR nightmares. And no actual personality.

On court is what matters in this league.

Idk about Kyrie, I doubt he would understand any of it but this forum should read some Foucault.
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Post#439 » by Jaqua92 » Sat May 4, 2019 3:44 am

truth18 wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Hah— to be clear, I wish he’d find happiness in basketball. From what I’ve seen, I dont think he’ll ever find it— dude was miserable next to LeBron and miserable with his own team. Some dudes are just wired that way.
He's talented, but he's got a personality not meant for superstardom. He's better off studying sociology lol

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What is a personality suited for stardom?

Do you want him to punch Tatum in the face and go get wasted gambling all night?

Should he pave a new driveway for himself and throw out his back shortening his career for years?

Even dudes like Magic have PR nightmares. And no actual personality.

On court is what matters in this league.

Idk about Kyrie, I doubt he would understand anyof it but this forum should read some Foucault.
An extroverted personality, someone who thrones off attention, someone theatrical etc..Kyrie is an introspective thinker. For people like this, there's an entire internal world just as relevant as the external world. I'm one of them. One of the greatest challenges of people like this is to get these worlds to align. I've been lucky enough to spend some time studying Buddhism, to have years of counseling, and pursuit my masters in counseling/counseling psychology for eventual state licensure. This "alignment" can be challenging, but I have the skills, tools, and insight to grow with them.

A maladaptive way this alignment happens is actually a focus of Gestalt Therapy (which I've mentioned he would benefit from before), some people try to get the external world to change..try to manipulate it in order to meet their internal world in the moment, opposed to allowing them to exist simultaneously. Kyrie does this, and then rationalizes his failures by telling us he wants to grow, and tries to validate himself externally by talking about how he doesn't need validation..but he does, he's seaking it out. He's a sensitive dude who's a bit insecure, easily overwhelmed, and a bit paranoid..but he can present himself by rationalizing it instead being so codependent on others, like KD. But it's still not most healthy way to handle this kind of functionality.

My point is, someone like Kyrie by nature has a more difficult time in front of the bright lights when everything he does is so scrutinized. He's forced to learn on his own, and it's hard to focus on your mental health when you are a pro star athlete. I don't think Kyrie INTENDS to be phony. But he acts like someone who could some day have a mild psychotic break and just become delusional

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Post#440 » by truth18 » Sat May 4, 2019 4:00 am

Jaqua92 wrote:
truth18 wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:He's talented, but he's got a personality not meant for superstardom. He's better off studying sociology lol

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What is a personality suited for stardom?

Do you want him to punch Tatum in the face and go get wasted gambling all night?

Should he pave a new driveway for himself and throw out his back shortening his career for years?

Even dudes like Magic have PR nightmares. And no actual personality.

On court is what matters in this league.

Idk about Kyrie, I doubt he would understand anyof it but this forum should read some Foucault.
An extroverted personality, someone who thrones off attention, someone theatrical etc..Kyrie is an introspective thinker. For people like this, there's an entire internal world just as relevant as the external world. I'm one of them. One of the greatest challenges of people like this is to get these worlds to align. I've been lucky enough to spend some time studying Buddhism, to have years of counseling, and pursuit my masters in counseling/counseling psychology for eventual state licensure. This "alignment" can be challenging, but I have the skills, tools, and insight to grow with them.

A maladaptive way this alignment happens is actually a focus of Gestalt Therapy (which I've mentioned he would benefit from before), some people try to get the external world to change..try to manipulate it in order to meet their internal world in the moment, opposed to allowing them to exist simultaneously. Kyrie does this, and then rationalizes his failures by telling us he wants to grow, and tries to validate himself externally by talking about how he doesn't need validation..but he does, he's seaking it out. He's a sensitive dude who's a bit insecure, easily overwhelmed, and a bit paranoid..but he can present himself by rationalizing it instead being so codependent on others, like KD. But it's still not most healthy way to handle this kind of functionality.

My point is, someone like Kyrie by nature has a more difficult time in front of the bright lights when everything he does is so scrutinized. He's forced to learn on his own, and it's hard to focus on your mental health when you are a pro star athlete. I don't think Kyrie INTENDS to be phony. But he acts like someone who could some day have a mild psychotic break and just become delusional

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Idk what kind of personality balancing, abstract dick measuring contest we are apparently having but sure, I agree with all of this outside of the relevance of Buddhism. I have a similar personality. Everyone should undergo counseling/therapy.


You have never analyzed or talked to Kyrie as a patient in any professional sense. To suggest he could have a mild psychotic break is unprofessional at worst and inherently inaccurate at best. It's also offensive to guys like Delonte who suffered from real mental illness and are already seriously stigmatized by society.

I live in the real world where things are not boiled down to soundbites and clips we watch online. The real world where Jordan punches out Kerr and it helps the Bulls win it all again.

Save me your "Jeff Green is on Benzodiazepines" thread PT 2 ft. Buddha.
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