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Post#161 » by Blonde » Sat May 4, 2019 9:51 pm

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There's the Gorilla and Troy Daniels but no TJ? That's disappointing.

It looks like he is gonna be traded.

Daniels and Holmes are both on there and they’re free agents. It’s just the marketing team acting alone. The front office isn’t giving them the inside scoop on player operations.
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Post#162 » by SideSwipe » Sat May 4, 2019 10:46 pm

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Anyone have any insight on where they are building near 44th and Camelback? Not sure what land they are going on.


ChrisInAZ wrote:No insight...just guess work

The SW and SE corner property seem improbable

My guess would be NE of the intersection, perhaps in connection to the CB racquet club. NW also has plenty of "opportunities"




Was wondering about this. Suns and other NBA players are at the Village clubs with a fair amount of frequency already, so there would be some sense to pair them up closely. It's a great marketing tie in for the Village Clubs also.
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Post#163 » by bigfoot » Sat May 4, 2019 11:44 pm

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SideSwipe wrote:Anyone have any insight on where they are building near 44th and Camelback? Not sure what land they are going on.


ChrisInAZ wrote:No insight...just guess work

The SW and SE corner property seem improbable

My guess would be NE of the intersection, perhaps in connection to the CB racquet club. NW also has plenty of "opportunities"




Was wondering about this. Suns and other NBA players are at the Village clubs with a fair amount of frequency already, so there would be some sense to pair them up closely. It's a great marketing tie in for the Village Clubs also.


Press reports say North of Camelback on 44th street so NE or NW corners.

Edit: I'd be putting my money on the NW corner.
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Post#164 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun May 5, 2019 1:03 am

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There's the Gorilla and Troy Daniels but no TJ? That's disappointing.


Is that a clue of TJ being moved soon in an imminent trade?

Already removing him from Suns promotions???

It just seems bizarre that they'd put every core player that we know they're intent on keeping, and the free agents that they must make a decision on, But WARREN AND JOHNSON are specifically left off of this promo???

Could the Suns be " tipping their hand a bit on this one? Revealing their future plans a bit? Or is it really just a convenient mistake???
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Post#165 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun May 5, 2019 1:12 am

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jcsunsfan wrote:To me, TJ McConnell is a sideways move at best.


TJ is pretty much an older version of Tyler Johnson. I understand the move if Johnson gets moved, but makes no sense whatsoever to have both on the roster.


Great insight man, Could there be a trade in mind for both Warren and Tyler Johnson, I think there might be some validity to these ideas based on these clues.

And asJones has himself mentioned........Big moves coming???? :wink:
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Post#166 » by nevetsov » Sun May 5, 2019 2:08 am

Does Monty have a strong relationship with any of the veteran PGs we've been talking about?

I think he coached Jrue in Nawlins but what about Conley, Lowry, Kemba etc? Say for example with USA basketball?
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Post#167 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun May 5, 2019 2:51 am

nevetsov wrote:Does Monty have a strong relationship with any of the veteran PGs we've been talking about?

I think he coached Jrue in Nawlins but what about Conley, Lowry, Kemba etc? Say for example with USA basketball?


Well, He was an assistant coach for the 2014-2016 Team USA roster that coincidentally had Conley on it. :wink: And Lowry was on the 2016 roster under Monty Williams as well.

Both of which could easily lead our young team at guard,
And also become 30 million expirings for us potentially too. Although not sure about Kemba.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/amp/grizzlies/news/conely-national-team-minicamp-roster-150806 .


https://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2016/06/2016-moly-team-announced.aspx .

Along with Jimmy Butler/ Bradley Beal/ Kevin Durant/ Kwahi Leonard/ Blake Griffin/ Russell Westbrook/ Paul George/ De mar Derozan, as well as many other star players too.

Quite a few of which also happen to be unrestricted free agents, Right around the same time as Conley becomes a 30 million expiring. :nod:

Which would obviously be a very shrewd and ingenious gameplan by our front office to afford us the opportunity to get our own big 3 going here in Phoenix, should we land Davis, Or one of the other 2021 star free agents.
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Post#169 » by kennydorglas » Sun May 5, 2019 5:09 pm

KD&Irving will join forces in NY.
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Post#170 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun May 5, 2019 6:46 pm

kennydorglas wrote:KD&Irving will join forces in NY.


Agreed, This is exactly what they're planning to do. The good news in this is that Durant leaving will begin the destabilization of the warriors, and potentially a domino effect changing the landscape of the west. :dontknow:
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Post#171 » by SunsLyf3 » Sun May 5, 2019 11:21 pm

kennydorglas wrote:KD&Irving will join forces in NY.


If they do hopefully it's Brooklyn so Russell to Phoenix can become a reality.
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Post#172 » by Kerrsed » Sun May 5, 2019 11:48 pm

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kennydorglas wrote:KD&Irving will join forces in NY.


If they do hopefully it's Brooklyn so Russell to Phoenix can become a reality.


Well the reports are saying that Irving would prefer the Nets over the Knicks. Durant is also connected to Brooklyn in quite a few ways, He filmed an episode of his show "Fly By" with Russell giving him a tour of Brooklyn. Also came by this:
-- His former personal trainer, shooting coach and current friend, Adam Harrington, is Brooklyn’s director of player development/assistant coach.

--His broken foot was repaired by Dr. Martin O’Malley, the Nets’ foot and ankle specialist at the Hospital for Special Surgery. KD told another one of O’Malley’s patients back in 2015, “Once Doc finishes with you, you’ll be like brand new.”

That patient was Caris LeVert. Durant and LeVert have a relationship that’s deeper than most realize. Other than having the same foot specialist, the two have met up in L.A. over the past two summers for off-season workouts. It’s something that hasn’t been spoken about much.
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Post#173 » by SunsLyf3 » Mon May 6, 2019 12:03 am

Kerrsed wrote:
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kennydorglas wrote:KD&Irving will join forces in NY.


If they do hopefully it's Brooklyn so Russell to Phoenix can become a reality.


Well the reports are saying that Irving would prefer the Nets over the Knicks. Durant is also connected to Brooklyn in quite a few ways, He filmed an episode of his show "Fly By" with Russell giving him a tour of Brooklyn. Also came by this:
-- His former personal trainer, shooting coach and current friend, Adam Harrington, is Brooklyn’s director of player development/assistant coach.

--His broken foot was repaired by Dr. Martin O’Malley, the Nets’ foot and ankle specialist at the Hospital for Special Surgery. KD told another one of O’Malley’s patients back in 2015, “Once Doc finishes with you, you’ll be like brand new.”

That patient was Caris LeVert. Durant and LeVert have a relationship that’s deeper than most realize. Other than having the same foot specialist, the two have met up in L.A. over the past two summers for off-season workouts. It’s something that hasn’t been spoken about much.

Might help him extend his career too. No doubt we would need to do a S&T for Russell though. Do they ask for TJ or JJ? Or do they prefer the pick? Although if you sign Kyrie and KD you're in win NOW mode so I doubt they'll want a rookie.
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Post#175 » by BobbieL » Mon May 6, 2019 3:05 pm

proedros1908 wrote:https://www.inquisitr.com/5424602/nba-rumors-nuggets-could-acquire-bradley-beal-in-three-team-deal-with-suns-wizards-per-bleacher-report/


So Mikal Bridges , Melton and maybe the Bucks pick for Jamal Murray

I would probably do that deal -- and I like Mikal Bridges. A lot. But Jamal Murrary is very good


Not many players I am giving up Bridges for but Murray would be one of them.
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Post#176 » by Sreister » Mon May 6, 2019 3:30 pm

proedros1908 wrote:https://www.inquisitr.com/5424602/nba-rumors-nuggets-could-acquire-bradley-beal-in-three-team-deal-with-suns-wizards-per-bleacher-report/


That's.. actually a pretty good win for everyone involved. Beal is a '2 in bush vs 1 in hand' situation for Denver (Murry and what could be with MPJr) with Beal being better than the 2 combined. Obviously a win for us since we don't need rookies anymore, we need a PG with then us keeping Warren and JJ, and Wiz with upgraded young talent to get a high pick and hopefully either unload Wall or hope that he comes back at maybe ~80% capacity of what he was and they have a young core to help be competitive next season.

Seems cool, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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Post#177 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Mon May 6, 2019 3:44 pm

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proedros1908 wrote:https://www.inquisitr.com/5424602/nba-rumors-nuggets-could-acquire-bradley-beal-in-three-team-deal-with-suns-wizards-per-bleacher-report/


That's.. actually a pretty good win for everyone involved. Beal is a '2 in bush vs 1 in hand' situation for Denver (Murry and what could be with MPJr) with Beal being better than the 2 combined. Obviously a win for us since we don't need rookies anymore, we need a PG with then us keeping Warren and JJ, and Wiz with upgraded young talent to get a high pick and hopefully either unload Wall or hope that he comes back at maybe ~80% capacity of what he was and they have a young core to help be competitive next season.

Seems cool, but I'll believe it when I see it.


I don't get the deal. Why wouldn't the Wiz prefer Murray as a long-term Beal replacement, and the second-best talent in the trade? For us, we need a PG, but Murray's a scorer, not a distributor or defender. We're trading basically our only good defensive rotation player for another guy who can't play defense. Obviously, it's great for us in terms of value, which just begs the question why the Wizards would agree to it.

Looks weird to me, so I too would only believe it when I see it.
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Post#178 » by Sreister » Mon May 6, 2019 3:54 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
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proedros1908 wrote:https://www.inquisitr.com/5424602/nba-rumors-nuggets-could-acquire-bradley-beal-in-three-team-deal-with-suns-wizards-per-bleacher-report/


That's.. actually a pretty good win for everyone involved. Beal is a '2 in bush vs 1 in hand' situation for Denver (Murry and what could be with MPJr) with Beal being better than the 2 combined. Obviously a win for us since we don't need rookies anymore, we need a PG with then us keeping Warren and JJ, and Wiz with upgraded young talent to get a high pick and hopefully either unload Wall or hope that he comes back at maybe ~80% capacity of what he was and they have a young core to help be competitive next season.

Seems cool, but I'll believe it when I see it.


I don't get the deal. Why wouldn't the Wiz prefer Murray as a long-term Beal replacement, and the second-best talent in the trade? For us, we need a PG, but Murray's a scorer, not a distributor or defender. We're trading basically our only good defensive rotation player for another guy who can't play defense. Obviously, it's great for us in terms of value, which just begs the question why the Wizards would agree to it.

Looks weird to me, so I too would only believe it when I see it.


I think they do this if they decide to blow it up for a year and try and bounce back. If we miss out on Zion, even if we get 2nd, I think instead of whatever pick they actually used. I think Mikal, Our Pick this year and filler to make money work is a good haul for Murray. I think think Ja, Mikal, MPJr and filler is also a good haul for Beal honestly. If anything this is Denver selling parts to upgrade to a top tier talent and I think it's Denver who gets the least out of a deal like that. I don't know if Beal > Murray and MPJr, with MPJr being a huge unknown.

But you're right about it being weird. Something so specific doesn't usually leak like that, especially when teams involved are in the playoffs still.
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Post#179 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Mon May 6, 2019 4:24 pm

Sreister wrote:
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That's.. actually a pretty good win for everyone involved. Beal is a '2 in bush vs 1 in hand' situation for Denver (Murry and what could be with MPJr) with Beal being better than the 2 combined. Obviously a win for us since we don't need rookies anymore, we need a PG with then us keeping Warren and JJ, and Wiz with upgraded young talent to get a high pick and hopefully either unload Wall or hope that he comes back at maybe ~80% capacity of what he was and they have a young core to help be competitive next season.

Seems cool, but I'll believe it when I see it.


I don't get the deal. Why wouldn't the Wiz prefer Murray as a long-term Beal replacement, and the second-best talent in the trade? For us, we need a PG, but Murray's a scorer, not a distributor or defender. We're trading basically our only good defensive rotation player for another guy who can't play defense. Obviously, it's great for us in terms of value, which just begs the question why the Wizards would agree to it.

Looks weird to me, so I too would only believe it when I see it.


I think they do this if they decide to blow it up for a year and try and bounce back. If we miss out on Zion, even if we get 2nd, I think instead of whatever pick they actually used. I think Mikal, Our Pick this year and filler to make money work is a good haul for Murray. I think think Ja, Mikal, MPJr and filler is also a good haul for Beal honestly. If anything this is Denver selling parts to upgrade to a top tier talent and I think it's Denver who gets the least out of a deal like that. I don't know if Beal > Murray and MPJr, with MPJr being a huge unknown.

But you're right about it being weird. Something so specific doesn't usually leak like that, especially when teams involved are in the playoffs still.


The trade didn't mention our 2019 FRP. You just inserted that out of nowhere. I ain't interested in talking about no Mikal + 2019 FRP for Murray deal.
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Post#180 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon May 6, 2019 4:26 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
Sreister wrote:
proedros1908 wrote:https://www.inquisitr.com/5424602/nba-rumors-nuggets-could-acquire-bradley-beal-in-three-team-deal-with-suns-wizards-per-bleacher-report/


That's.. actually a pretty good win for everyone involved. Beal is a '2 in bush vs 1 in hand' situation for Denver (Murry and what could be with MPJr) with Beal being better than the 2 combined. Obviously a win for us since we don't need rookies anymore, we need a PG with then us keeping Warren and JJ, and Wiz with upgraded young talent to get a high pick and hopefully either unload Wall or hope that he comes back at maybe ~80% capacity of what he was and they have a young core to help be competitive next season.

Seems cool, but I'll believe it when I see it.


I don't get the deal. Why wouldn't the Wiz prefer Murray as a long-term Beal replacement, and the second-best talent in the trade? For us, we need a PG, but Murray's a scorer, not a distributor or defender. We're trading basically our only good defensive rotation player for another guy who can't play defense. Obviously, it's great for us in terms of value, which just begs the question why the Wizards would agree to it.

Looks weird to me, so I too would only believe it when I see it.
Yeah while he would be a absolute upgrade over what they have I don't think Murray and booker would be a great long term pairing. Honestly I'd rather just try to get Beal in a deal like this.

I do think Denver is a team to watch for a big trade this summer. They have some pieces that could make sense to package for another star. I think they could be a dark horse AD landing spot.

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