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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#181 » by bishnykfan » Mon May 6, 2019 3:28 am

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Finally saw it tonight with my kids. Very good movie. I would put Infinity War ahead of Endgame because I loved the battle in Wakanda and I just generally like movies where the good guys don't win in the end, lol. But the final battle scene in Endgame where all of the heroes come back to help Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor was a great scene.

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- Didn't love what they did to Thor in this movie after the five year time jump.
- Surprised that a rat crawling across an abandoned van would be what brought Ant Man back from the quantum realm after five years.
- Thought Captain Marvel would play a bigger role then just bringing Tony back from outer space and the little bit of the final battle.
- Surprised they basically killed off Black Widow, Iron Man and Captain America.
- Thought they could've taken a little more time showing them going back in time to get each stone and a little less time in the lead up to the time travel. It seemed really easy to grab the six stones.
- Absolutely loved the soundtracks to all the Marvel movies. Great song choices throughout and love the Avenger theme. Every time it plays, it got me and my kids so pumped up, lol.
- Definitely looking forward to the Asgardians of the Galaxy and whatever the next chapter holds for the other characters (BP, Dr. Strange, etc)


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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#182 » by NYKAL » Mon May 6, 2019 12:08 pm

I hated what they did to Hulk the last two movies. Hulk is supposed to smash but, all we got was comic relief. The Hulkbuster Armor got more airtime then the Hulk in the last 2 movies. Should have just left him out if they were going to minimize him like this.....literally any other character could have been substituted for banner.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#183 » by RHODEY » Mon May 6, 2019 2:53 pm

NYKAL wrote:I hated what they did to Hulk the last two movies. Hulk is supposed to smash but, all we got was comic relief. The Hulkbuster Armor got more airtime then the Hulk in the last 2 movies. Should have just left him out if they were going to minimize him like this.....literally any other character could have been substituted for banner.


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Yep...and Im not even the biggest Hulk fan but they chose to elevate CM over him and Thor too.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#184 » by dakomish23 » Mon May 6, 2019 3:40 pm

Officially #2 after 2 weeks. Who the hell saw this coming when Iron Man first came out?

A lot of nitpicking could be done and I've done it since it came out. Still, not bad for tying together 11 years worth of story.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#185 » by JXL » Mon May 6, 2019 5:10 pm

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The fact that they made Thor into a fat wreck after "Aiming for the head" was wrong IMO. I also was surprised and a bit disgusted that they didn't have Banner Hulk in that major fight scene even with a burned arm and everything. It's the F'N Hulk, he would've still gotten hits on Thanos even with one arm.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#186 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon May 6, 2019 6:28 pm

RHODEY wrote:
NYKAL wrote:I hated what they did to Hulk the last two movies. Hulk is supposed to smash but, all we got was comic relief. The Hulkbuster Armor got more airtime then the Hulk in the last 2 movies. Should have just left him out if they were going to minimize him like this.....literally any other character could have been substituted for banner.


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Yep...and Im not even the biggest Hulk fan but they chose to elevate CM over him and Thor too.


i really, really enjoyed endgame hulk.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#187 » by NYKAL » Mon May 6, 2019 7:27 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
NYKAL wrote:I hated what they did to Hulk the last two movies. Hulk is supposed to smash but, all we got was comic relief. The Hulkbuster Armor got more airtime then the Hulk in the last 2 movies. Should have just left him out if they were going to minimize him like this.....literally any other character could have been substituted for banner.


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Yep...and Im not even the biggest Hulk fan but they chose to elevate CM over him and Thor too.


i really, really enjoyed endgame hulk.


WHAT endgame hulk? Hulk smashes ****, he does't dab....this kiddyfied Hulk along with I'm just barely masculine Thor were awful in Both films imo
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#188 » by NYKAL » Mon May 6, 2019 7:29 pm

JXL wrote:
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The fact that they made Thor into a fat wreck after "Aiming for the head" was wrong IMO. I also was surprised and a bit disgusted that they didn't have Banner Hulk in that major fight scene even with a burned arm and everything. It's the F'N Hulk, he would've still gotten hits on Thanos even with one arm.


he should have been given a chance to redeem the ass kicking Thanos gave him. To see Hulk SMASH NOTHING in both movies was just fuked up for anyone who cared about that character
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#189 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon May 6, 2019 7:39 pm

NYKAL wrote:
JXL wrote:
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The fact that they made Thor into a fat wreck after "Aiming for the head" was wrong IMO. I also was surprised and a bit disgusted that they didn't have Banner Hulk in that major fight scene even with a burned arm and everything. It's the F'N Hulk, he would've still gotten hits on Thanos even with one arm.


he should have been given a chance to redeem the ass kicking Thanos gave him. To see Hulk SMASH NOTHING in both movies was just fuked up for anyone who cared about that character


what about if you cared about banner's ability to live at peace with his green friend? there's more to hulk than smash. and people can appreciate different elements and storylines of a character.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#190 » by dakomish23 » Mon May 6, 2019 7:40 pm

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RHODEY wrote:
NYKAL wrote:I hated what they did to Hulk the last two movies. Hulk is supposed to smash but, all we got was comic relief. The Hulkbuster Armor got more airtime then the Hulk in the last 2 movies. Should have just left him out if they were going to minimize him like this.....literally any other character could have been substituted for banner.


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Yep...and Im not even the biggest Hulk fan but they chose to elevate CM over him and Thor too.


i really, really enjoyed endgame hulk.


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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#191 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon May 6, 2019 7:43 pm

dakomish23 wrote:Officially #2 after 2 weeks. Who the hell saw this coming when Iron Man first came out?

A lot of nitpicking could be done and I've done it since it came out. Still, not bad for tying together 11 years worth of story.


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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#192 » by Smash3 » Mon May 6, 2019 8:03 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
NYKAL wrote:
JXL wrote:
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The fact that they made Thor into a fat wreck after "Aiming for the head" was wrong IMO. I also was surprised and a bit disgusted that they didn't have Banner Hulk in that major fight scene even with a burned arm and everything. It's the F'N Hulk, he would've still gotten hits on Thanos even with one arm.


he should have been given a chance to redeem the ass kicking Thanos gave him. To see Hulk SMASH NOTHING in both movies was just fuked up for anyone who cared about that character


what about if you cared about banner's ability to live at peace with his green friend? there's more to hulk than smash. and people can appreciate different elements and storylines of a character.


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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#193 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon May 6, 2019 8:06 pm

Smash3 wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
NYKAL wrote:
he should have been given a chance to redeem the ass kicking Thanos gave him. To see Hulk SMASH NOTHING in both movies was just fuked up for anyone who cared about that character


what about if you cared about banner's ability to live at peace with his green friend? there's more to hulk than smash. and people can appreciate different elements and storylines of a character.


Yeah thought it was great, Banner went from this:



to:



long way. and i liked that journey in the books too.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#194 » by RHODEY » Tue May 7, 2019 5:24 am

Smash3 wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
NYKAL wrote:
he should have been given a chance to redeem the ass kicking Thanos gave him. To see Hulk SMASH NOTHING in both movies was just fuked up for anyone who cared about that character


what about if you cared about banner's ability to live at peace with his green friend? there's more to hulk than smash. and people can appreciate different elements and storylines of a character.


Yeah thought it was great, Banner went from this:



to:



Banner came up, but the Hulk? :noway:
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#195 » by WargamesX » Tue May 7, 2019 12:50 pm

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I think the contract allows for the Hulk to have major roles in two more movies. So I expect him to have one more really good fight before his arc is done. Maybe in the Thunderbolts?
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#196 » by NYKAL » Tue May 7, 2019 2:49 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Smash3 wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
what about if you cared about banner's ability to live at peace with his green friend? there's more to hulk than smash. and people can appreciate different elements and storylines of a character.


Yeah thought it was great, Banner went from this:



to:



Banner came up, but the Hulk? :noway:


I absolutely hate that portrayal. Professor Hulk was a badass and was still strong enough to beat down Abomination. This seemed like it was cut and spliced from some Nick toons children's show.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#197 » by Spree2Houston » Tue May 7, 2019 6:08 pm

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Let's not forget that Loki re-stole the tesseract so he probably created another alternate timeline which fits into the new multi-verse. Also Thanos from 2014 was killed along with his army so another post 2014 alternate timeline is created where the snap never happened and Ironman is still alive
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#198 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue May 7, 2019 7:47 pm

NYKAL wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Smash3 wrote:
Yeah thought it was great, Banner went from this:



to:



Banner came up, but the Hulk? :noway:


I absolutely hate that portrayal. Professor Hulk was a badass and was still strong enough to beat down Abomination. This seemed like it was cut and spliced from some Nick toons children's show.


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we just didn't see him do it. i didn't take it as an implication he wasn't able to fight.
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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#199 » by prophet_of_rage » Wed May 8, 2019 1:02 pm

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RHODEY wrote:Saw it and thought it was really, really good but ...


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I didnt not like what was done with Thor. I get the depression, but it he didn't need to be broken down to that level with the potbelly, not a way for him to go out against thanos and this incarnation of the team

I felt really cheated that we saw no Hulk action. Maybe a Thanos rematch was too much to ask for ( I don't actually believe that) but really? We get CM , who imo was forced into the movie but no Hulk smashing...that really bothered me.

The death of Tony Stark left a very bad taste in my mouth. I get that it gives the movie weight and purpose, I get that he was but a mortal and his body couldn't take it but... there had to be a way. Why not let the over powered CM do the snap? surely she could absorb all that extra gamma radiation and survive?.

Or for perhaps let tony do it but let her siphon the extra energies that were unleashed.

I just don't like leaving the a movie on such sad note. When I walked out of that theater I felt I had attended a real funeral. Stark became that much of a fixture. Couldn't they had just had him retire and enjoy his little family? Unnecessary sacrifice IMO. The movie was really SAD, a little too sad IMO. I still feel sad and its been 5 days since I saw this flick :o

Still a very good movie, not quite as good as the the previous, because of the above and a little too light on the action overall. I really wish they could have somehow had Hulk absorb that extra gamma radiation from the initial snap and let him take a shot at Thanos while amped up ... :banghead: Oh well.


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They had to establish Captain Marvel as the strongest Avenger. They did it by ruining the most Alpha masculine characters in Thor and Hulk. Made one Soft (Hulk) and the other fat (Thor)
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You guys realise Hemsworth was bored with Thor as originally presented and taking him in these comedic and vulnerable directions keeps the actor interested in the roles. This is the most interesting Thor has been. And the Hulk has gone through a movoe of his own in these films since they can't do a Hulk solo. We've seen him as the reluctant hero in Avengers who gives in to his rage to save the world. He falls in love in Ultron but sacrifices that love because he can't bear to be the Hulk. He is stuck as the rage monster in Ragnarok, stuck as the weakling Banner in Infinity Wars and finally achieves balance in Endgame, but loses his love in the process.


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Re: OT: Avengers: Endgame 

Post#200 » by NYKAL » Wed May 8, 2019 2:06 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
Spree2Houston wrote:
RHODEY wrote:Saw it and thought it was really, really good but ...


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I didnt not like what was done with Thor. I get the depression, but it he didn't need to be broken down to that level with the potbelly, not a way for him to go out against thanos and this incarnation of the team

I felt really cheated that we saw no Hulk action. Maybe a Thanos rematch was too much to ask for ( I don't actually believe that) but really? We get CM , who imo was forced into the movie but no Hulk smashing...that really bothered me.

The death of Tony Stark left a very bad taste in my mouth. I get that it gives the movie weight and purpose, I get that he was but a mortal and his body couldn't take it but... there had to be a way. Why not let the over powered CM do the snap? surely she could absorb all that extra gamma radiation and survive?.

Or for perhaps let tony do it but let her siphon the extra energies that were unleashed.

I just don't like leaving the a movie on such sad note. When I walked out of that theater I felt I had attended a real funeral. Stark became that much of a fixture. Couldn't they had just had him retire and enjoy his little family? Unnecessary sacrifice IMO. The movie was really SAD, a little too sad IMO. I still feel sad and its been 5 days since I saw this flick :o

Still a very good movie, not quite as good as the the previous, because of the above and a little too light on the action overall. I really wish they could have somehow had Hulk absorb that extra gamma radiation from the initial snap and let him take a shot at Thanos while amped up ... :banghead: Oh well.


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They had to establish Captain Marvel as the strongest Avenger. They did it by ruining the most Alpha masculine characters in Thor and Hulk. Made one Soft (Hulk) and the other fat (Thor)
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You guys realise Hemsworth was bored with Thor as originally presented and taking him in these comedic and vulnerable directions keeps the actor interested in the roles. This is the most interesting Thor has been. And the Hulk has gone through a movoe of his own in these films since they can't do a Hulk solo. We've seen him as the reluctant hero in Avengers who gives in to his rage to save the world. He falls in love in Ultron but sacrifices that love because he can't bear to be the Hulk. He is stuck as the rage monster in Ragnarok, stuck as the weakling Banner in Infinity Wars and finally achieves balance in Endgame, but loses his love in the process.


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Hulk was no Rage Monster in Ragnarak...he was more of an infant than anything else and maybe it would have been compelling if you'd seen the struggle for identity play out but, it didn't which was just another slap in Hulks face. But, that is just how I felt about it. If you enjoyed it then it served its purpose. I just didn't enjoy the movie and felt the portrayal was one of quite a few things I didn't like about it.

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