Future Free Agent Thread

[dr0welf]

Just saw Beverly mentioned above, and I agree that he is very intriguing.

I see these as the most likely PG targets
Brogdan
Beverly
Conley
Kemba
Satoransky
Rubio

Am I missing anyone?

Here is how they stacked up this past season http://bkref.com/tiny/esQ6u

Question is how much they will cost and if they are obtainable.

Brogdan/Beverly would be a good combination. What projected salary do you thing these 2 will get?

[SoCalJazzFan]

Just saw Beverly mentioned above, and I agree that he is very intriguing.

I see these as the most likely PG targets
Brogdan
Beverly
Conley
Kemba
Satoransky
Rubio

Am I missing anyone?

Here is how they stacked up this past season http://bkref.com/tiny/esQ6u

Question is how much they will cost and if they are obtainable.

Brogdan/Beverly would be a good combination. What projected salary do you thing these 2 will get?

My best guess is $25M/yr for both, but there could be some massive overpaying this summer. I think you get one of the other, not both, in light of having Mitchell starting the other guard spot.

[dr0welf]

Just saw Beverly mentioned above, and I agree that he is very intriguing.

I see these as the most likely PG targets
Brogdan
Beverly
Conley
Kemba
Satoransky
Rubio

Am I missing anyone?

Here is how they stacked up this past season http://bkref.com/tiny/esQ6u

Question is how much they will cost and if they are obtainable.

Brogdan/Beverly would be a good combination. What projected salary do you thing these 2 will get?

My best guess is $25M/yr for both, but there could be some massive overpaying this summer. I think you get one of the other, not both, in light of having Mitchell starting the other guard spot.

I think Brogdan and Mitchell would be your starters with Beverly being the backup/6th man. Does someone have the salary cap breakdown for our team going into the summer? Also, if Korver retires or comes back for the year, when do you think he makes his decision? I want to see how his 7.5 million could help in our cap situation and options.

[AingesBurner]

Tobias (max)
Hezonja(MLE)
Burks
Udoh

[CAE15]

Just saw Beverly mentioned above, and I agree that he is very intriguing.

I see these as the most likely PG targets
Brogdan
Beverly
Conley
Kemba
Satoransky
Rubio

Am I missing anyone?

Here is how they stacked up this past season http://bkref.com/tiny/esQ6u

Question is how much they will cost and if they are obtainable.

Brogdan/Beverly would be a good combination. What projected salary do you thing these 2 will get?

My best guess is $25M/yr for both, but there could be some massive overpaying this summer. I think you get one of the other, not both, in light of having Mitchell starting the other guard spot.

That seems low. I'd think Brogdon would get 18-21 million alone for a chance that the bucks don't match and Beverley should get at least the full MLE (9.3 million) if not more unless he goes ring chasing, which he could.

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[mudsak]

Just saw Beverly mentioned above, and I agree that he is very intriguing.

I see these as the most likely PG targets
Brogdan
Beverly
Conley
Kemba
Satoransky
Rubio

Am I missing anyone?

Here is how they stacked up this past season http://bkref.com/tiny/esQ6u

Question is how much they will cost and if they are obtainable.

I'd be game to see the Jazz gun for Brogdon. I think he'd be a great addition to the team.

Dream signings imo would be Tobias Harris, and Brogdon. I think they're both long shots. Both of those players are going to have a lot of attractive suitors.

I'm a bit torn about Favors. I'm a huge fan of Favs, and I honestly think he is really important to have as a rotation with Gobert. As impactful as Gobert is... he has a lot of deficiencies vs certain matchups. Favors is the perfect sub in those situations. The problem is that it's a lot of salary to give up on a guy that's the backup center. I think it might not be the most efficient use of cap resources for a back-up center. Maybe better trying to get a Dewayne Dedmond level player for less $, and utilize that extra $ in an area of more need.

[CAE15]

Just saw Beverly mentioned above, and I agree that he is very intriguing.

I see these as the most likely PG targets
Brogdan
Beverly
Conley
Kemba
Satoransky
Rubio

Am I missing anyone?

Here is how they stacked up this past season http://bkref.com/tiny/esQ6u

Question is how much they will cost and if they are obtainable.

I'd be game to see the Jazz gun for Brogdon. I think he'd be a great addition to the team.

Dream signings imo would be Tobias Harris, and Brogdon. I think they're both long shots. Both of those players are going to have a lot of attractive suitors.

I'm a bit torn about Favors. I'm a huge fan of Favs, and I honestly think he is really important to have as a rotation with Gobert. As impactful as Gobert is... he has a lot of deficiencies vs certain matchups. Favors is the perfect sub in those situations. The problem is that it's a lot of salary to give up on a guy that's the backup center. I think it might not be the most efficient use of cap resources for a back-up center. Maybe better trying to get a Dewayne Dedmond level player for less $, and utilize that extra $ in an area of more need.

We couldn't get both Brogdon and Tobias without moving a fair bit of salary. While technically possible if we traded Exum and Jae without getting back very little salary, we could maybe afford it.

Favors is so hard to decide on, while I think Dedmon as you said could fill the Favors role and doing the stretch part much more efficiently. It's hard to get past moving on from Favors and everything he means to this team. I wonder if he would be willing to to rework his deal to maybe 3/39 or something to give us a bit more cap, even though it would take us out of the max spot we may or may not be in anyway

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[SoCalJazzFan]

Interesting article on Rubio's most likely landing spots in free agency. The article pegs his value at roughly $10M-$12M/season.

https://hoopshype.com/2019/05/06/ricky-rubio-free-agency-rumors-jazz-pacers-bulls-suns/?utm_source=MSN&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=inline-related

[Winglish]

Allegedly Klay Thompson wants out of Golden State.

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Too bad player like this will never consider the Jazz. He is pretty awesome fit next to Mitchell... although... we probably will need more offense-creation from other positions if Thompson is our big signing.

[Luigi]

Allegedly Klay Thompson wants out of Golden State.

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Too bad player like this will never consider the Jazz. He is pretty awesome fit next to Mitchell... although... we probably will need more offense-creation from other positions if Thompson is our big signing.

We could create enough with Thompson around. But he's staying with GSW, when Durant leaves Thompson will have his splash brother role back.

I wonder what Tobias Harris is thinking these days though.

[KqWIN]

Allegedly Klay Thompson wants out of Golden State.

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Too bad player like this will never consider the Jazz. He is pretty awesome fit next to Mitchell... although... we probably will need more offense-creation from other positions if Thompson is our big signing.

How how hot of a take is it to say that Klay is overrated and not much better, if at all, than Harris and Middleton?

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How how hot of a take is it to say that Klay is overrated and not much better, if at all, than Harris and Middleton?

It's not super hot of a take. And especially for what we need... Harris and Middleton might actually be better fits.

I have been calling him a role player for several years now. He's like the hyper souped up version of a Danny Green-JJ Redick mix. This is not meant to be a knock on him... he's extremely good at what he does. He's the best role player in the league, but he is a role player. He's not a offensive creator, he's an offensive finisher. Pretty much everything he does offensively is reliant on others creating for him and he has some of the best offensive talent in the league creating for him and drawing defensive attention away from him. About 93% of his 3p attempts are assisted and about 70% of his 2p attempts are assisted. Those are the numbers of a role player(check the Korvers, JJ Redicks, Danny Greens of the world... the numbers are almost identical).

[zero24gravity]

How how hot of a take is it to say that Klay is overrated and not much better, if at all, than Harris and Middleton?

It's not super hot of a take. And especially for what we need... Harris and Middleton might actually be better fits.

I have been calling him a role player for several years now. He's like the hyper souped up version of a Danny Green-JJ Redick mix. This is not meant to be a knock on him... he's extremely good at what he does. He's the best role player in the league, but he is a role player. He's not a offensive creator, he's an offensive finisher. Pretty much everything he does offensively is reliant on others creating for him and he has some of the best offensive talent in the league creating for him and drawing defensive attention away from him. About 93% of his 3p attempts are assisted and about 70% of his 2p attempts are assisted. Those are the numbers of a role player(check the Korvers, JJ Redicks, Danny Greens of the world... the numbers are almost identical).

I actually don't disagree. He's a decent defender & good shooter, but is he a product of the system (as I'm convinced D.Green is) or an actual All Star caliber player? It's possible the numbers you point to are simply because that's his role on the team due to Curry & Durant being the shot creators. Perhaps he COULD create more for himself, if that was his role. But for max money, I'd think I'd want to KNOW he can do more than be a top notch role player, which it's difficult to figure-out based on his career path. With all that said, I wouldn't be upset at all if the Jazz got him, I'm just not certain I'd want to see the team pay max-money, which is what I'm sure it'd take.

[KqWIN]

I wouldn't go as far to say Klay is a role player, but his defense is very overrated and I think the league has caught up some with his shooting. There's a lot of guys that we'd be absolutely ecstatic to get, Klay is one of them. But if we feel that way about Klay, I think we ought to feel that way about Middleton and Harris as well. Conley is in a different situation with his age, but he's he very much on that level of player if not ahead of Klay. The best thing Klay has going on for him is his name and rep.

GSW has a known fascination with winning on the margins, being smarter then everyone else etc. It wouldn't surprise me if they tell Klay he's not worth 5/$190M and he's goes elsewhere. They seem to be the type of organization to think that he could be replaceable or that he's inefficient use of cap.

[CAE15]

Klay is honestly probably the best pure shooter in the entire league. If we had a chance to max him, we do it. His post game is very underrated as well. He can shoot over most his matchups. He is overrated as a defender but he's allowed to defend in ways very players get to, so adding that to our defensive team would be brilliant for us. He is not very effective as a ball handler unless again he's working in the post but he's very good off ball and just needs a split second to create an opening.

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[SoCalJazzFan]

Question:

My understanding is that a team is allowed only one 5 yr max contract player at a time. However, can a team give another player a 5 yr contract at slightly less than max while having a 5 yr max player, or do all other contracts have to be for 4 yrs or less?

[Inigo Montoya]

Question:

My understanding is that a team is allowed only one 5 yr max contract player at a time. However, can a team give another player a 5 yr contract at slightly less than max while having a 5 yr max player, or do all other contracts have to be for 4 yrs or less?

Jea Crowder signed a 5-year contract with the Celtics which he is still under, and he's making around 7M per season. As far as I know a team can sign only one player to a 5-year contract, but it can trade for another player who is under a 5-year contract.

[SoCalJazzFan]

Question:

My understanding is that a team is allowed only one 5 yr max contract player at a time. However, can a team give another player a 5 yr contract at slightly less than max while having a 5 yr max player, or do all other contracts have to be for 4 yrs or less?

Jea Crowder signed a 5-year contract with the Celtics which he is still under, and he's making around 7M per season. As far as I know a team can sign only one player to a 5-year contract, but it can trade for another player who is under a 5-year contract.

I know that a team can't trade for a 5 yr max contract player while they have a 5 yr max contract player of their own. I'm just not sure if they can dole out more than one 5 yr non-max contract at a time (while having their own 5 yr max contract player).

[Inigo Montoya]

Question:

My understanding is that a team is allowed only one 5 yr max contract player at a time. However, can a team give another player a 5 yr contract at slightly less than max while having a 5 yr max player, or do all other contracts have to be for 4 yrs or less?

Jea Crowder signed a 5-year contract with the Celtics which he is still under, and he's making around 7M per season. As far as I know a team can sign only one player to a 5-year contract, but it can trade for another player who is under a 5-year contract.

I know that a team can't trade for a 5 yr max contract player while they have a 5 yr max contract player of their own. I'm just not sure if they can dole out more than one 5 yr non-max contract at a time (while having their own 5 yr max contract player).

From CBA FAQ:

" There is a limit to the number of designated players a team can have on its roster at a time. A team can have up to two designated rookies (who received a longer rookie scale extension) and up to two designated veterans (who received higher than the 30% maximum salary) at any time. However, only one designated rookie and one designated veteran may have been acquired from another team in a trade. "
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q24