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2019 Brewers Trades/News - Yelich Avoids Surgery; Out 8-10 Weeks

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Re: 2019 Brewers Trades/Transactions/Rumors/News -Burnes and Petricka down/Wilson and Hart up 

Post#61 » by trwi7 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:39 pm

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Yep, literally no one of credit has mentioned a thing about the Brewers being close to signing anyone.


Yeah, I'm going to start clamping down on these BS rumors. If you can't post a link to a verifiable source - even if it isn't 100% reliable - don't share BS. I'm not interested in seeing posts like "supposedly we are close to a pitcher" that has zero backing from anything.


Well, we did sign someone sooooooooo


You posted we were close to signing a pitcher two days before Gonzalez even became a free agent.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Trades/News - Sign Gio to 1 year deal 

Post#62 » by JimmyTheKid » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:07 pm

Yup had to do it. Really a shame. As I mentioned before, we needed 2/3 of Burnes, Peralta, and Woodruff to stick in the rotation. Now there is a legitimate possibility that in a few weeks none of them will be there. Hopefully Chase can regain his form from a couple years ago and Jimmy completes his comeback.

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Re: 2019 Brewers Trades/News - Sign Gio to 1 year deal 

Post#63 » by M-C-G » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:07 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:Yup had to do it. Really a shame. As I mentioned before, we needed 2/3 of Burnes, Peralta, and Woodruff to stick in the rotation. Now there is a legitimate possibility that in a few weeks none of them will be there. Hopefully Chase can regain his form from a couple years ago and Jimmy completes his comeback.

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Re: 2019 Brewers Trades/News - Sign Gio to 1 year deal 

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Re: 2019 Brewers Trades/News - Sign Gio to 1 year deal 

Post#66 » by bizarro » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:34 pm

The Alex Wilson experiment is over. Thank the f’ng heavens.
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Post#67 » by Kerb Hohl » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:51 am

The Yelich Pardon My Take interview today was hilarious as expected (cameo from Shaw) but I’m not sure I’ve ever heard this mentioned before. He credits his massive run of dominance since the ASB to standing taller in his stance, something he did in high school.

Wasn’t familiar with Culver’s but I’m not gonna kill the guy for it (it may have been Shaw that wasn’t aware of it). Neither had been.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Trades/News - Sign Gio to 1 year deal 

Post#68 » by leroyjw10 » Tue May 7, 2019 6:05 pm

So how much longer does Hiura have to rake/Shaw have to struggle before Hiura is called up as our full-time 2B and Moose is moved to 3B full time?
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Post#69 » by M-C-G » Tue May 7, 2019 6:10 pm

leroyjw10 wrote:So how much longer does Hiura have to rake/Shaw have to struggle before Hiura is called up as our full-time 2B and Moose is moved to 3B full time?


I think about this every single day, almost anyway.
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Post#70 » by Kerb Hohl » Tue May 7, 2019 6:16 pm

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leroyjw10 wrote:So how much longer does Hiura have to rake/Shaw have to struggle before Hiura is called up as our full-time 2B and Moose is moved to 3B full time?


I think about this every single day, almost anyway.


My guess is early June.

-Past the Super 2 date
-An AL series mixed in there so a need for DH
-A homestand early in the month

Late May also could be in play with the Twins series but I'm not sure if that gets it done with the Super 2 date.

They'll probably string Shaw along on the IL with a bench/deeper platoon role until September.

As noted on another thread:
-I think Shaw is getting a bit unlucky as well as scuffling, of course.
-Even if you think he's trash, you have to find a way to keep him. You don't want to be held to the fire having to keep Mous next year or having a black hole at 3B. I know there's been some hype around Erceg but I think he's probably a guy you assume is a bench player and hope for the best.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Trades/News - Sign Gio to 1 year deal 

Post#71 » by M-C-G » Tue May 7, 2019 7:20 pm

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leroyjw10 wrote:So how much longer does Hiura have to rake/Shaw have to struggle before Hiura is called up as our full-time 2B and Moose is moved to 3B full time?


I think about this every single day, almost anyway.


My guess is early June.

-Past the Super 2 date
-An AL series mixed in there so a need for DH
-A homestand early in the month

Late May also could be in play with the Twins series but I'm not sure if that gets it done with the Super 2 date.

They'll probably string Shaw along on the IL with a bench/deeper platoon role until September.


Yeah, definitely don't want to mess with Super 2, but the moment we are cleared get his ass on a plane. I think Shaw seems like a really good guy, but I think he is not very good and living off an incredible half season of baseball and then kind of returned to what he is
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Post#72 » by Kerb Hohl » Tue May 7, 2019 7:25 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:
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I think about this every single day, almost anyway.


My guess is early June.

-Past the Super 2 date
-An AL series mixed in there so a need for DH
-A homestand early in the month

Late May also could be in play with the Twins series but I'm not sure if that gets it done with the Super 2 date.

They'll probably string Shaw along on the IL with a bench/deeper platoon role until September.


Yeah, definitely don't want to mess with Super 2, but the moment we are cleared get his ass on a plane. I think Shaw seems like a really good guy, but I think he is not very good and living off an incredible half season of baseball and then kind of returned to what he is


I just added to the post above, but Shaw needs to be kept most likely unless you are certain that you can keep Mous for next year.

Even if Shaw's half season of his huge season was a miracle is what it was, give me .240/.340 with 30 HR and solid defense at 3B over potentially a black hole.

Shaw's BABIP and ISO are way below career averages. Those are mostly luck-based. His K% is a bit higher but not incredibly higher. His hard hit%, line drive%, and flyball %s are pretty close to recent norms. One would hope that his luck turns soon.

I could be wrong but I think he'll at least get back to being a .240/.330 guy with power. We need that unless we sign Moose to an extension tomorrow.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Trades/News - Sign Gio to 1 year deal 

Post#73 » by leroyjw10 » Tue May 7, 2019 7:39 pm

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My guess is early June.

-Past the Super 2 date
-An AL series mixed in there so a need for DH
-A homestand early in the month

Late May also could be in play with the Twins series but I'm not sure if that gets it done with the Super 2 date.

They'll probably string Shaw along on the IL with a bench/deeper platoon role until September.


Yeah, definitely don't want to mess with Super 2, but the moment we are cleared get his ass on a plane. I think Shaw seems like a really good guy, but I think he is not very good and living off an incredible half season of baseball and then kind of returned to what he is


I just added to the post above, but Shaw needs to be kept most likely unless you are certain that you can keep Mous for next year.

Even if Shaw's half season of his huge season was a miracle is what it was, give me .240/.340 with 30 HR and solid defense at 3B over potentially a black hole.

Shaw's BABIP and ISO are way below career averages. Those are mostly luck-based. His K% is a bit higher but not incredibly higher. His hard hit%, line drive%, and flyball %s are pretty close to recent norms. One would hope that his luck turns soon.

I could be wrong but I think he'll at least get back to being a .240/.330 guy with power. We need that unless we sign Moose to an extension tomorrow.


Spotrac (https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/milwaukee-brewers/mike-moustakas-8532/) has Moose down for a mutual option in 2020 for a reasonable $11 million. Given that, I'd be inclined to see what Shaw could fetch on the market. Some more pitching would be mighty nice.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Trades/News - Sign Gio to 1 year deal 

Post#74 » by Kerb Hohl » Tue May 7, 2019 7:42 pm

leroyjw10 wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:
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Yeah, definitely don't want to mess with Super 2, but the moment we are cleared get his ass on a plane. I think Shaw seems like a really good guy, but I think he is not very good and living off an incredible half season of baseball and then kind of returned to what he is


I just added to the post above, but Shaw needs to be kept most likely unless you are certain that you can keep Mous for next year.

Even if Shaw's half season of his huge season was a miracle is what it was, give me .240/.340 with 30 HR and solid defense at 3B over potentially a black hole.

Shaw's BABIP and ISO are way below career averages. Those are mostly luck-based. His K% is a bit higher but not incredibly higher. His hard hit%, line drive%, and flyball %s are pretty close to recent norms. One would hope that his luck turns soon.

I could be wrong but I think he'll at least get back to being a .240/.330 guy with power. We need that unless we sign Moose to an extension tomorrow.


Spotrac (https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/milwaukee-brewers/mike-moustakas-8532/) has Moose down for a mutual option in 2020 for a reasonable $11 million. Given that, I'd be inclined to see what Shaw could fetch on the market. Some more pitching would be mighty nice.


Mous has to accept the mutual option. Most of these mutual options are written in basically so the team can defer a few million bucks and/or the player has a fallback option.

Mous will likely decline it. He and Soria had mutual options last year and both declined them. Wouldn't be surprised if he comes back yet again but no guarantees.
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Re: 2019 Brewers Trades/News - Sign Gio to 1 year deal 

Post#75 » by trwi7 » Tue May 7, 2019 11:19 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote: His K% is a bit higher but not incredibly higher.


Nearly 13% is a huge jump.
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Post#76 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed May 8, 2019 1:34 pm

trwi7 wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote: His K% is a bit higher but not incredibly higher.


Nearly 13% is a huge jump.


13% from last year, 7% from his career. I doubt the 13% from last year sticks but I was referring to a comparison to his career rates.
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Post#77 » by humanrefutation » Mon May 13, 2019 3:40 pm

We're on MadBum's no-trade list:

https://www.mlb.com/news/madison-bumgarner-submits-no-trade-list

The pitcher's contract allows him to block trades to eight teams. According to sources, his list includes the Atlanta Braves, Boston Red Sox, Chicago Cubs, Houston Astros, Milwaukee Brewers, New York Yankees, Philadelphia Phillies and St. Louis Cardinals.


AKA pretty much every major playoff contender.
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Post#78 » by ReasonablySober » Tue May 14, 2019 12:12 am

humanrefutation wrote:We're on MadBum's no-trade list:

https://www.mlb.com/news/madison-bumgarner-submits-no-trade-list

The pitcher's contract allows him to block trades to eight teams. According to sources, his list includes the Atlanta Braves, Boston Red Sox, Chicago Cubs, Houston Astros, Milwaukee Brewers, New York Yankees, Philadelphia Phillies and St. Louis Cardinals.


AKA pretty much every major playoff contender.


Pretty brilliant move to increase the odds you'll be traded. It's probably been done like this before but I don't remember it.
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Post#79 » by humanrefutation » Tue May 14, 2019 12:14 am

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humanrefutation wrote:We're on MadBum's no-trade list:

https://www.mlb.com/news/madison-bumgarner-submits-no-trade-list

The pitcher's contract allows him to block trades to eight teams. According to sources, his list includes the Atlanta Braves, Boston Red Sox, Chicago Cubs, Houston Astros, Milwaukee Brewers, New York Yankees, Philadelphia Phillies and St. Louis Cardinals.


AKA pretty much every major playoff contender.


Pretty brilliant move to increase the odds you'll be traded. It's probably been done like this before but I don't remember it.

You mean decrease? The playoff contenders are the ones most likely to trade for him.
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Post#80 » by ReasonablySober » Tue May 14, 2019 2:19 pm

Derp yes I meant decrease.

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