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College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!!

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Who do you take at 5???

Garland
27
33%
Reddish
22
27%
Clarke
3
4%
Hunter
13
16%
Hayes
0
No votes
Coby
1
1%
Rui
3
4%
Romeo
2
2%
Bol
5
6%
Other
6
7%
 
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Post#961 » by RHODEY » Tue May 7, 2019 11:21 pm

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Post#962 » by DOT » Tue May 7, 2019 11:25 pm

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Post#963 » by RHODEY » Wed May 8, 2019 12:09 am

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Post#964 » by TheGreenArrow » Wed May 8, 2019 12:10 am

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Cam can defend better but Knox will be better offensively. Knox is already a better shooter, will be a better finisher, and is more athletic.

I don't even think Cam has a higher ceiling defensively. He's just okay

Knox could get to that level with the right coaching and motivation

I really don't like this class outside of Zion


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Post#966 » by RHODEY » Wed May 8, 2019 12:13 am


@3:36 - jA sure doesnt lack confidence.... he intrigues me.
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Post#967 » by robillionaire » Wed May 8, 2019 12:38 am

robillionaire wrote:Really want top 3, but if we get unlucky and get 4th or 5th I think I'd want reddish, I know everyone's down on him but I just don't like any of the other prospects after 3 very much and he seems like a prototypical 3 and D with his length and shooting, still has upside and would be a good fit at SG


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Post#968 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed May 8, 2019 12:43 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:
2010 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:I don't even think Cam has a higher ceiling defensively. He's just okay

Knox could get to that level with the right coaching and motivation

I really don't like this class outside of Zion


:nod:


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1.Zion
2.trade
3.trade
4.trade
5.trade

What happened to Bol Bol and Cam :lol:
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Post#969 » by robillionaire » Wed May 8, 2019 12:47 am

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Does anyone know which pick will be drawn first? In 2015 and in NBA2K, they start the lottery from the 14th pick. But last year, they started from the first pick.

I want to know if I have to root to have Knicks numbers picked first or to not have the Knicks numbers picked until the end.


They always start with 14 and work their way down. So I guess when they get to 5th start hoping they don't get called


we can actually know earlier than that. If CHI is 8th we know we will be picking 5th. If PHX is 7th we know we will be picking 5th. If CLE is 6th we 100% know we will be picking 5th...


good point, never thought of it that way. also I guess if the hawks (not the mavs pick but their own) pick 9th
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Post#970 » by Zenzibar » Wed May 8, 2019 12:54 am

Recently found this site DraftValue.com and interesting enough their last release shows RJ Barrett ranked ahead of Zion. Even while the call is Zion, it's nice to know that RJ has good value as a #2 or #3 pick in some eyes.

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1. RJ Barrett Freshman Duke 6’7″202 SG/SF —
2. Zion Williamson Freshman Duke 6’7″ 285 PF —
3. Ja Morant Soph. Murray St. 6’3″ 170 PG —
4. Deandre Hunter Soph. Virginia 6’7″ 225 SF —
5. Coby White Freshman North Carolina 6’5″ 180 PG ∧ 3
6. Jarrett Culver Soph. Texas Tech 6’5″ 190 SG —

7. Cameron Reddish Freshman Duke 6’8″ 218 SF ∨ 2
8. Bol Bol Freshman Oregon 7’2″ 230 Center ∧ 3
9. Nickeil Alexander-Walker Soph. Virginia Tech 6’5″ 210 PG/SG ∨ 2
10. Keldon Johnson Freshman Kentucky 6’6″ 211 SG ∨ 1
11. Kevin Porter Jr. Freshman Southern Cal. 6’6″ 218 SG ∧ 2
12. KZ Okpala Soph. Stanford 6’9″ 215 SG/SF ∨ 2
13. PJ Washington Soph. Kentucky 6’8″ 225 PF ∧ 1
14. Darius Garland Freshman Vanderbilt 6’2″ 175 PG ∧ 1
15. Romeo Langford Freshman Indiana 6’6″ 215 SG ∧ 4
16. Bruno Fernando Soph. Maryland 6’10” 240 PF —
17. Cameron Johnson Senior UNC 6’9″ 210 SG/SF —
18. Rui Hachimura Junior Gonzaga 6’8″ 225 PF ∨ 6
19. Carsen Edwards Junior Purdue 6’1″ 200 PG ∧ 10
20. Sekou Doumbouya 18 Yrs. Old Limoges CSP 6’9″ 205 SF ∧ 2
21. Louis King Freshman Oregon 6’9″ 205 SF ∧ 9
22. Brandon Clarke Freshman Gonzaga 6’8″ 215 PF ∨ 1
23. Jalen Mcdaniels Soph. San Diego St. 6’10” 195 SF/PF ∨ 3
24. Nassir Little Freshman UNC 6’6″ 218 SF ∨ 3
25. Naz Reid Freshman LSU 6’10” 240 PF/C ∧ 1
26. Mfiondu Kabengele Soph. Florida St. 6’10” 250 Center ∧ 20
27. Daniel Gafford Soph. Arkansas 6’11” 233 Center ∨ 4
28. Dylan Windler Senior Belmont 6’8″ 200 SG ∧ 9
29. Kris Wilkes Soph. UCLA 6’8″ 215 SF ∧ 4
30. Jordan Nwora Soph. Louisville 6’8″ 225 SF ∧ 6
31. Jaxson Hayes Freshman Texas 6’11” 220 Center ∨ 5
32. Tyler Herro Freshman Kentucky 6’5″ 195 SG ∧ 23
33. Matisse Thybulle Senior Washington 6’5″ 195 SG ∧ 9
34. Bennie Boatwright Senior Southern Cal. 6’10” 230 SF ∨ 10
35. Miye Oni Junior Yale 6’6″ 210 SG ∧ 3
36. Ignas Brazdeikis Freshman Michigan 6’7″ 215 SF ∨ 2
37. Robert Franks Senior Washington St. 6’9″ 225 PF ∨ 10
38. Aubrey Dawkins Junior Central Florida 6’6″ 210 SG NR
39. Myles Powell Junior Seton Hall 6’2″ 192 PG —
40. Jaylen Nowell Freshman Washington 6’4″ 200 SG ∧ 4
41. Justin Wright-Foreman Senior Hofstra 6’2″ 190 PG ∧ 6
42. Isaiah Roby Junior Nebraska 6’8″ 230 PF ∧ 3
43. Goga Bitadze 19 Yrs. Old Budućnost VOLI 6’11” 250 Center ∧ 19
44. Darius Bazley 18 Yrs. Old No College 6’9″ 200 SF ∧ 7
45. Chuma Okeke Soph. Auburn 6’8″ 230 SF ∨ 20
46. Charles Bassey Freshman Western Ky. 6’11” 245 Center ∧ 2
47. Eric Paschall Senior Villanova 6’8″ 255 PF ∨ 12
48. Jaylen Hoard Freshman Wake Forest 6’8″ 215 SF —
49. Grant Williams Junior Tennessee 6’7″ 236 PF ∧ 4
50. Zach Norvell Jr. Soph. Gonzaga 6’5″ 205 SG ∧ 8
51. Jordan Poole Soph. Michigan 6’5″ 195 SG ∧ 10
52. Cameron Young Senior Quinnipiac 6’6″ 205 SG ∨ 14
53. Moses Brown Freshman UCLA 7’2″ 245 Center ∧ 5
54. Luguentz Dort Freshman Arizona State 6’4″ 215 SG ∧ 6
55. Jaylen Hands Soph. UCLA 6’3″ 180 PG ∧ 17
56. Kerwin Roach II Senior Texas 6’4″ 180 PG ∧ 9
57. Admiral Schofield Senior Tennessee 6’6″ 241 SF ∨ 6
58. Shamorie Ponds Junior St.John’s 6’1″ 175 PG ∧ 27
59. Desmond Bane Junior TCU 6’5″ 215 SG ∨ 9
60. Tyus Battle Junior Syracuse 6’6″ 205 SG ∧ 7
61. Zylan Cheatham Senior Arizona State 6’8″ 220 PF ∧ 12
62. Ky Bowman Junior Boston College 6’1″ 188 PG ∧ 8
63. Alpha Diallo Junior Providence 6’7″ 213 SG/SF ∧ 27
64. Adam Mokoka 20 Yrs. Old Mega Bemax 6’5″ 190 PG ∧ 15
65. Yoeli Childs Junior BYU 6’8″ 225 PF ∧ 17
66. Caleb Martin Senior Nevada 6’7″ 205 PF —
67. Neemias Queta Freshman Utah State 6’11” 225 Center ∧ 14
68. Matt Morgan Senior Cornell 6’2″ 174 PG ∧ 16
69. Marial Shayok Senior Iowa State 6’6″ 198 SG ∧ 1
70. Nicolas Claxton Soph. Georgia 6’11” 220 SF/PF —
71. Jontay Porter Soph. Missouri 6’11” 240 Center —
72. Rayjon Tucker Junior Little Rock 6’5″ 210 SG ∧ 28
73. Tyler Cook Junior Iowa 6’9″ 250 PF ∧ 3
74. Devon Dotson Freshman Kansas 6’2″ 183 PG ∧ 6
75. Kouat Noi Soph. TCU 6’7″ 205 SF —
76. Jessie Govan Senior Georgetown 6’10” 255 Center ∧ 7
77. Joshua Obiesie 18 Yrs. Old Oliver Würzburg 6’6″ 190 PG/SG NR
78. Chris Clemons Senior Campbell 5’9″ 185 PG ∧ 18
79. Charlie Brown Jr. Soph. Temple 6’7″ 199 SF NR
80. Cody Martin Senior Nevada 6’7″ 205 SG/SF ∧ 14
81. Charles Matthews Senior Michigan 6’6″ 205 SG ∧ 11
82. Talen Horton-Tucker Freshman Iowa State 6’4″ 233 SG/SF ∧ 9
83. Lamar Stevens Junior Penn State 6’8″ 230 SF ∧ 15
84. Quentin Grimes Freshman Kansas 6’5″ 210 SG ∧ 3
85. Brian Bowen 19 Yrs. Old Sydney Kings 6’7″ 190 SF NR
86. Oshae Brissett Soph. Syracuse 6’8″ 210 SF NR
87. CJ Elleby Freshman Washington St. 6’6″ 185 SG NR
88. Justin James Senior Wyoming 6’7″ 190 SF —
89. Sagaba Konate Junior West Virginia 6’8″ 250 PF/C —
90. Dedric Lawson Junior Kansas 6’9″ 235 PF/C ∨ 5
91. Jalen Lecque H.S. Senior Brewster Acad. 6’4″ 180 PG NR
92. James Palmer Jr. Senior Nebraska 6’6″ 207 SG ∨ 22
93. Dewan Hernandez Junior Miami 6’11” 235 Center NR
94. Amir Hinton Junior Shaw 6’5″ 190 PG/SG NR
95. Fletcher Magee Senior Wofford 6’4″ 200 SG ∧ 2
96. Aric Holman Senior Miss. State 6’10” 225 PF NR
97. Ethan Happ Senior Wisconsin 6’10” 237 Center ∧ 2
98. Kellan Grady Soph. Davidson 6’5″ 195 SG NR
99. Deividas Sirvydis 18 Yrs. Old BC Lietuvos 6’8″ 190 SG/SF NR
100. Nathan Knight Junior William & Mary 6’10” 235 PF/C NR





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Re: College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!! 

Post#971 » by TheGreenArrow » Wed May 8, 2019 12:58 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
2010 wrote:
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My draft board is....

1.Zion
2.trade
3.trade
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5.trade

What happened to Bol Bol and Cam :lol:


With kd&kyrie coming they dont fit the timeline otherwise they would be 2&3.

I expect all the young guys outside of maybe mitch to be gone.
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Post#972 » by DOT » Wed May 8, 2019 1:00 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
2010 wrote:
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My draft board is....

1.Zion
2.trade
3.trade
4.trade
5.trade

What happened to Bol Bol and Cam :lol:

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Post#973 » by Zenzibar » Wed May 8, 2019 1:04 am

Will be nice to get in position to grab this dude in the 2nd round. Aubrey Dawkins, being a 4 year player would be perfect as a steady influence on the 2nd unit.

Observe the Dawkins' jumper, it is pro perfect. I believed that Timmy had a nice stroke but Aubrey has a better one and is more a steadier, less emotional player.



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Post#974 » by mpharris36 » Wed May 8, 2019 1:27 am

god shammgod wrote:well, they liked knox too. lol

i can see it though. there is a lot of upside. but boy is he down now.


i mean he fits next to Kyrie/KD perfectly if his skills translate...he can defend a bit too

but man he was super unimpressive this year.
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Post#975 » by Zenzibar » Wed May 8, 2019 1:47 am

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god shammgod wrote:well, they liked knox too. lol

i can see it though. there is a lot of upside. but boy is he down now.


i mean he fits next to Kyrie/KD perfectly if his skills translate...he can defend a bit too

but man he was super unimpressive this year.



Pascal Siakim took 3 years to get to where he's at. Hopefully the impact Leonard has had on Siakim's confidence, will be the same as Durant on Knox.
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Post#976 » by mpharris36 » Wed May 8, 2019 1:50 am

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god shammgod wrote:well, they liked knox too. lol

i can see it though. there is a lot of upside. but boy is he down now.


i mean he fits next to Kyrie/KD perfectly if his skills translate...he can defend a bit too

but man he was super unimpressive this year.



Pascal Siakim took 3 years to get to where he's at.


i mean im patient don't get me wrong but you can make a case Hunter or Garland could be just as valuable with the 5th pick
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Post#977 » by robillionaire » Wed May 8, 2019 1:54 am

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mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:well, they liked knox too. lol

i can see it though. there is a lot of upside. but boy is he down now.


i mean he fits next to Kyrie/KD perfectly if his skills translate...he can defend a bit too

but man he was super unimpressive this year.



Pascal Siakim took 3 years to get to where he's at. Hopefully the impact Leonard has had on Siakim's confidence, will be the same as Durant on Knox.


Even Kawhi himself was 20 y/o entering the nba and was picked 15 because people were down on him after two years in college. And then took a few more to get where he is, you can’t count out these dudes
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Post#978 » by Zenzibar » Wed May 8, 2019 2:05 am

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i mean he fits next to Kyrie/KD perfectly if his skills translate...he can defend a bit too

but man he was super unimpressive this year.



Pascal Siakim took 3 years to get to where he's at.


i mean im patient don't get me wrong but you can make a case Hunter or Garland could be just as valuable with the 5th pick


Here's were we may agree. Hunter will be a good pick, only if the Knicks don't decide to go to the tallest front court in the NBA and start Mitchell at the 4 and that's if we don't get Zion.

We may disagree on this though. Having another bonified scorer in-between Durant and Kyrie will be important, #2 Morant, #3 RJ or #4 Culver, # 5 White. Move Mitch to the 4 spot and develop his outside game starting now. Too bad KP didn't want to be part of this, would have been already setup. But hey, if Mitchell can work hard and develop his handle and three point shot, the kid's gonna be a beast.
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Post#979 » by Worst_to_First » Wed May 8, 2019 3:13 am

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Does anyone know which pick will be drawn first? In 2015 and in NBA2K, they start the lottery from the 14th pick. But last year, they started from the first pick.

I want to know if I have to root to have Knicks numbers picked first or to not have the Knicks numbers picked until the end.


They always start with 14 and work their way down. So I guess when they get to 5th start hoping they don't get called


we can actually know earlier than that. If CHI is 8th we know we will be picking 5th. If PHX is 7th we know we will be picking 5th. If CLE is 6th we 100% know we will be picking 5th...


Will be on edge from the get go.

Don’t want to see Zion to Philly or Boston getting picks 2/3/4.
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Post#980 » by King Ken » Wed May 8, 2019 3:36 am

Not happy of the news the Knicks like Cam Reddish.

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