The Kyrie thread - he probably doesnt bleed green

amory87 · Post #661 » by **amory87** » Wed May 8, 2019 2:21 pm

Still hope he re-signs lol

MagicBagley18 · Post #662 » by **MagicBagley18** » Wed May 8, 2019 3:26 pm

jmr07019 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:
Once again I will reiterate Irving / Davis should be plan A.

LeBron was 25 when he signed with Miami. Durant was 27 when he signed in GSW and you're hoping to trade for a 26 year old Davis. In 2021 Giannis will be 26. Timeline seems right to me. Is that super max keeping Davis in New Orleans? Milwakee is very good. Cleveland and OKC made the finals before their MVP candidates bolted. Changing teams is the thing to do these days.

Giannis isn’t an American player who came up on the AAU circuit all friends playing together and in touch with one another since they were early teens. He refuses to even workout with other stars so he can keep a perceived “edge “ against them. He just turned down a role in space jam 2 with Lebron and the opportunity to have great exposure and train with other stars for a few weeks in the summer.

He is a rare breed and more of a throwback type. he is not your typical nba modern day superstar and while he may eventually decide to leave the bucks I seriously doubt it will be anywhere near soon or in the next 2 offseasons.

The plan has always been acquire top 10-15 talent - which we did in kyrie and then pair him with AD. That’s plan A, B, C right now.
Acquiring Giannis at 25 years old as a free agent would be the equivalent of Lebron to the heat. It’s great to fantasize but it’s not reality.

We'll talk in July after Kyrie leaves us

The plan then won’t be to hope and chase the biggest free agent in the game...that’s not a plan that’s what the New York knicks do and considering our biggest free agent in history was Al Horford or Hayward - i’d Temper your expectations

klemen4 · Post #663 » by **klemen4** » Wed May 8, 2019 5:04 pm

Not a big loss if he leaves.

In a trade for him we gave up IT (who sadly after injury is not the same player), Crowder (bench roleplayers). Zizic (bench big) and 7th pick in 2018 Draft (sexton? - who knows who Danny would pick)

so in a way we lost one lottery pick, we will survive this

jmr07019 · Post #664 » by **jmr07019** » Wed May 8, 2019 5:11 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Giannis isn’t an American player who came up on the AAU circuit all friends playing together and in touch with one another since they were early teens. He refuses to even workout with other stars so he can keep a perceived “edge “ against them. He just turned down a role in space jam 2 with Lebron and the opportunity to have great exposure and train with other stars for a few weeks in the summer.

He is a rare breed and more of a throwback type. he is not your typical nba modern day superstar and while he may eventually decide to leave the bucks I seriously doubt it will be anywhere near soon or in the next 2 offseasons.

The plan has always been acquire top 10-15 talent - which we did in kyrie and then pair him with AD. That’s plan A, B, C right now.
Acquiring Giannis at 25 years old as a free agent would be the equivalent of Lebron to the heat. It’s great to fantasize but it’s not reality.

We'll talk in July after Kyrie leaves us

The plan then won’t be to hope and chase the biggest free agent in the game...that’s not a plan that’s what the New York knicks do and considering our biggest free agent in history was Al Horford or Hayward - i’d Temper your expectations

So acquire top 10-15 but not that guy. Why? Because magic Bagley doesn’t want to. LOL ok sorry for suggest anything other than Kyrie Davis.

MagicBagley18 · Post #665 » by **MagicBagley18** » Wed May 8, 2019 5:47 pm

jmr07019 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:
We'll talk in July after Kyrie leaves us

The plan then won’t be to hope and chase the biggest free agent in the game...that’s not a plan that’s what the New York knicks do and considering our biggest free agent in history was Al Horford or Hayward - i’d Temper your expectations

So acquire top 10-15 but not that guy. Why? Because magic Bagley doesn’t want to. LOL ok sorry for suggest anything other than Kyrie Davis.

No of course I want to....it’s not realistic at all. He’s going to be eligible for the DPE next summer and he will take it. It’s just plain to see.

What idiot wouldn’t want to acquire him - that’s not a plan tho that’s a pipe dream. By that summer if Hayward and horford are going who else is even here? who will he be joining. And why leave then? the players you mentioned left after failing multiple playoff runs and or the inability to sign other free agents. His timeline is different then those guys.

Jaqua92 · Post #666 » by **Jaqua92** » Wed May 8, 2019 5:52 pm

ddb wrote:Kyrie-Smart-Hayward-Davis-Horford starting 5 opening night 2019-20 season

Hmm??

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GoGreen · Post #667 » by **GoGreen** » Wed May 8, 2019 5:58 pm

I had some very strong words about Kyrie after the loss. I was PISSED. But, after some time to calm down, a team of smart/tatum/brown/hay just isn't getting it done.

I don't love Kyrie, but a trade for AD is the best option if we want to compete. Hate to admit it, but it's the truth.

Jaqua92 · Post #668 » by **Jaqua92** » Wed May 8, 2019 5:58 pm

GoGreen wrote:I had some very strong words about Kyrie after the loss. I was PISSED. But, after some time to calm down, a team of smart/tatum/brown/hay just isn't getting it done.

I don't love Kyrie, but a trade for AD is the best option if we want to compete. Hate to admit it, but it's the truth.

Bingo

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Captain_Caveman · Post #669 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Wed May 8, 2019 8:49 pm

Read on Twitter

Meh.

GoCeltics123 · Post #670 » by **GoCeltics123** » Wed May 8, 2019 8:57 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Meh.

Cuffs is LeBron's friend, I think. I doubt this though.

If Kyrie does this...I'd honestly just laugh. Like imagine requesting a trade away from a guy, just to run back to that guy. Would be the most gutless thing ever :lol:

GoCeltics123 · Post #671 » by **GoCeltics123** » Wed May 8, 2019 9:00 pm

Read on Twitter

Mannix says the knee issues are something Kyrie takes into account, which is a reason why the 5-year offer is appealing to him.

return2glory · Post #672 » by **return2glory** » Wed May 8, 2019 9:55 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
return2glory wrote:
Froob wrote:Important context

Read on Twitter

This guy is a joke and a fraud. And people are finally waking up to it. He is the guy that said that to wait for the playoffs. Playoffs come around, and he sucks and can’t step it up. So he starts making excuses that the defenses are focusing in on him. You’re a so called genius, Kyrie. Figure out the defenses.

Can you imagine Larry Bird, Paul Pierce, KG making bs excuses like this?

I watched Paul Pierce have a fake bandage around his neck and get ejected from a huge playoff game....he grew into a mature leader but it wasn’t natural from the jump

Pierce didn’t make excuses about the regular season and wait for the playoffs and when playoffs came, he didn’t back it up.

You are trying to compare two entirely different things.

Captain_Caveman · Post #673 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:07 pm

IT stans still trying to duck that L, as if this didn't happen to IT each and every time he faced elite competition.

Whatever happens from here, we are in a better place now.

GoCeltics123 · Post #674 » by **GoCeltics123** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:24 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:IT stans still trying to duck that L, as if this didn't happen to IT each and every time he faced elite competition.

Whatever happens from here, we are in a better place now.

What route do you go if we lose Kyrie? I know you mentioned Russell earlier, but he'd only be an option if Kyrie heads to BKN.

MagicBagley18 · Post #675 » by **MagicBagley18** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:25 pm

return2glory wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
return2glory wrote:
This guy is a joke and a fraud. And people are finally waking up to it. He is the guy that said that to wait for the playoffs. Playoffs come around, and he sucks and can’t step it up. So he starts making excuses that the defenses are focusing in on him. You’re a so called genius, Kyrie. Figure out the defenses.

Can you imagine Larry Bird, Paul Pierce, KG making bs excuses like this?

I watched Paul Pierce have a fake bandage around his neck and get ejected from a huge playoff game....he grew into a mature leader but it wasn’t natural from the jump

Pierce didn’t make excuses about the regular season and wait for the playoffs and when playoffs came, he didn’t back it up.

You are trying to compare two entirely different things.

No he demanded a trade unless he got help....and to be clear Pierce is an all time favorite of mine but he was far from the mature leader early in his career like your making him out to be

exculpatory · Post #676 » by **exculpatory** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:31 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:IT stans still trying to duck that L, as if this didn't happen to IT each and every time he faced elite competition.

Whatever happens from here, we are in a better place now.

Ya think we got a chance tonight?

Having a drink for first time in ages.

return2glory · Post #677 » by **return2glory** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:41 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
return2glory wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
I watched Paul Pierce have a fake bandage around his neck and get ejected from a huge playoff game....he grew into a mature leader but it wasn’t natural from the jump

Pierce didn’t make excuses about the regular season and wait for the playoffs and when playoffs came, he didn’t back it up.

You are trying to compare two entirely different things.

No he demanded a trade unless he got help....and to be clear Pierce is an all time favorite of mine but he was far from the mature leader early in his career like your making him out to be

I’m talking about a cocky player how talks big and can’t back it up with his play. That’s not Pierce.

Captain_Caveman · Post #678 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:49 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:IT stans still trying to duck that L, as if this didn't happen to IT each and every time he faced elite competition.

Whatever happens from here, we are in a better place now.

What route do you go if we lose Kyrie? I know you mentioned Russell earlier, but he'd only be an option if Kyrie heads to BKN.

Trade Tatum/Smart/filler/picks for AD and resign everyone, then try to pick up the pieces somehow.

Rozier
Jaylen
Hayward/Semi
Horford/Morris
AD/Baynes/Theis

Captain_Caveman · Post #679 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:49 pm

exculpatory wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:IT stans still trying to duck that L, as if this didn't happen to IT each and every time he faced elite competition.

Whatever happens from here, we are in a better place now.

Ya think we got a chance tonight?

Having a drink for first time in ages.

Team has been Jekyll and Hyde all year. Why stop now?

MagicBagley18 · Post #680 » by **MagicBagley18** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:53 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:IT stans still trying to duck that L, as if this didn't happen to IT each and every time he faced elite competition.

Whatever happens from here, we are in a better place now.

What route do you go if we lose Kyrie? I know you mentioned Russell earlier, but he'd only be an option if Kyrie heads to BKN.

Trade Tatum/Smart/filler/picks for AD and resign everyone, then try to pick up the pieces somehow.

Rozier
Jaylen
Hayward/Semi
Horford/Morris
AD/Baynes/Theis

Still going for AD without kyrie? balls of steel! Ok ok I can dig it