Jazz offseason as I see it. (Jazz fans ain't gonna like)

[PharmD]

What PG could Crowder and Exum and a 1st bring back?

For sure Jeff Teague

[MoneyTalks41890]

What PG could Crowder and Exum and a 1st bring back?

For sure Jeff Teague

That's a good one. Likely can be done without the first and I think Minny would still go for it.

[loserX]

I don't mind it at all, but then I'm more pessimistic than even this

I don't think we're getting a max guy, period. I don't think Brand lets Harris go even if some Philly fans are willing to, and I don't see why Harris leaves if Brand will pay him. But in a world where none of this matters, he's a good get

[KqWIN]

I don't mind it at all, but then I'm more pessimistic than even this

I don't think we're getting a max guy, period. I don't think Brand lets Harris go even if some Philly fans are willing to, and I don't see why Harris leaves if Brand will pay him. But in a world where none of this matters, he's a good get

Agreed. This is a very good outcome considering the reality of our FA chances.

I could see a scenario where Harris wants more shots and doesn't think he'll get them in Philly, but he will also have teams lining up for him and I don't like UTA's odds in a FA race.

[loserX]

I don't mind it at all, but then I'm more pessimistic than even this

I don't think we're getting a max guy, period. I don't think Brand lets Harris go even if some Philly fans are willing to, and I don't see why Harris leaves if Brand will pay him. But in a world where none of this matters, he's a good get

Agreed. This is a very good outcome considering the reality of our FA chances.

I could see a scenario where Harris wants more shots and doesn't think he'll get them in Philly, but he will also have teams lining up for him and I don't like UTA's odds in a FA race.

Yeah, jazzfan gave a good breakdown in the first post. Here are just some of the teams with max cap space this offseason (and they don't have to cut anyone, like we would):

Knicks
Nets
Lakers
Clippers
Mavericks
Kings

So to recap: that's two teams from New York, two teams from Los Angeles, and two other teams owned by internet billionaires who have no problem paying (or overpaying) for guys they like.

And this is the battlefield on which the Utah Jazz will try to be aggressive? Lindsey is shrewd and will come up with something, probably unexpected. But we as Jazz fans should be moderating our expectations.

Hopefully I'm wrong! Won't be the first or last time if I am

[Catchall]

A few thoughts:

- Exum, assuming his body can hold up, should play lessthan 25 mins/game for a while.

- The jazz are likely to pursue a PG of some kind to replace Rubio. It could be anything from a Pat Beverly to Darren Collison to Goran Dragic, but they'll go after someone.

- The Jazz need a scorer who is capable of creating his own look. That's not necessarily the same as a shooter like a Mirotic. The Jazz could go after Randle due to his ability to play on the ball.

- Royce will take some of Ingles' minutes as he did in the playoffs. Georges Niang and Grayson Allen are playable as shooters.

- I think there are several guys the Jazz like in this draft. I think they'll stay in unless a deal clearly makes sense.

[Texas Chuck]

yeah I'm confused by the OP telling us how much the team values vet PG's and then turning over the team to the highly undependable Exum who even if you got 70 games out of him, is nowhere ready to lead an NBA offense and this is already an offensively challenged roster.

I would make adding another offensive creator a top priority this off-season. I'd be trying to be the landing spot for Gallo as the Clippers shed salary to make room for 2 max guys and then look to add a veteran pg as well. A lineup of Gobert/Gallo/Ingles/Mitchell/competent PG is way more dangerous offensively and Gobert/system is going to ensure the defense will still be good enough.

[Cappy_Smurf]

Will KOC pull a rabbit out of his nether regions? I dunno. I hope so, but for now this is my best guess.

I feel pretty confident KOC will do absolutely nothing, considering he's been retired for several years.

Dennis Lindsy OTH may very well pull a rabbit out of his ass. My bet is he gets a deal done for Conely.

[HornetJail]

I see an absolute zero percent chance a team of Utah's caliber willingly goes into next season with Dante Exum as their starting PG. If they're unable to grab a starting PG, I wonder if there is a chance they're try to force Donovan Mitchell into a PG role and overpay a sharpshooting wing to start alongside him, like Danny Green or someone.

But I really think Utah should be able to get Jeff Teague, George Hill if they're unable to snag a better starter through FA or trade.

[HornetJail]

What PG could Crowder and Exum and a 1st bring back?

For sure Jeff Teague

That's a good one. Likely can be done without the first and I think Minny would still go for it.

I highly doubt that. Minnesota already has a better Crowder in Covington and Exum is a deadweight half the time, and significantly overpaid the other half.

[Domejandro]

What PG could Crowder and Exum and a 1st bring back?

For sure Jeff Teague

That's a good one. Likely can be done without the first and I think Minny would still go for it.

The whole Exum contract makes me a bit iffy without the first, and I'm basically the conductor of the "Jeff Teague is probably getting traded" train. With the first, I'd happily do it for the flexibility it would give us, but otherwise, I think I pass.

[MoneyTalks41890]

For sure Jeff Teague

That's a good one. Likely can be done without the first and I think Minny would still go for it.

The whole Exum contract makes me a bit iffy without the first, and I'm basically the conductor of the "Jeff Teague is probably getting traded" train. With the first, I'd happily do it for the flexibility it would give us, but otherwise, I think I pass.

As an impartial 3rd party, sure, add the first

[CAE15]

I see an absolute zero percent chance a team of Utah's caliber willingly goes into next season with Dante Exum as their starting PG. If they're unable to grab a starting PG, I wonder if there is a chance they're try to force Donovan Mitchell into a PG role and overpay a sharpshooting wing to start alongside him, like Danny Green or someone.

But I really think Utah should be able to get Jeff Teague, George Hill if they're unable to snag a better starter through FA or trade.

Jazz had their choice of Teague or Hill already, they chose Hill. Then they chose Rubio over Hill. Hill or Teague to Utah are gone imo.

There's plenty of point guards out there for the Jazz. Collison, Beverley, Satoransky, Joseph, Wright among others.

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[gom]

If Utah wanted Dragic and Goran opts in, the Heat would likely be happy to move him. Utah almost has the cap space, and Miami would love to get out of the luxury tax.

[HornetJail]

I see an absolute zero percent chance a team of Utah's caliber willingly goes into next season with Dante Exum as their starting PG. If they're unable to grab a starting PG, I wonder if there is a chance they're try to force Donovan Mitchell into a PG role and overpay a sharpshooting wing to start alongside him, like Danny Green or someone.

But I really think Utah should be able to get Jeff Teague, George Hill if they're unable to snag a better starter through FA or trade.

Jazz had their choice of Teague or Hill already, they chose Hill. Then they chose Rubio over Hill. Hill or Teague to Utah are gone imo.

There's plenty of point guards out there for the Jazz. Collison, Beverley, Satoransky, Joseph, Wright among others.

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I completely blanked on that entire Teague/Hill situation. Those guys both made sense on paper though. Is the George Hill bridge burned or something? It seemed like he had a great year there and then left to get massively overpaid by Sacramento. But yeah I could see Collison in that bracket as well. I could definitely see Beverley fitting in there, and Collison would be a great pickup too. CoJo and Wright I see as backups, but they could do plenty worse. I was under the impression that Satoransky was pretty much garbage though, and thoroughly outmatched starting at PG.

[CAE15]

I see an absolute zero percent chance a team of Utah's caliber willingly goes into next season with Dante Exum as their starting PG. If they're unable to grab a starting PG, I wonder if there is a chance they're try to force Donovan Mitchell into a PG role and overpay a sharpshooting wing to start alongside him, like Danny Green or someone.

But I really think Utah should be able to get Jeff Teague, George Hill if they're unable to snag a better starter through FA or trade.

Jazz had their choice of Teague or Hill already, they chose Hill. Then they chose Rubio over Hill. Hill or Teague to Utah are gone imo.

There's plenty of point guards out there for the Jazz. Collison, Beverley, Satoransky, Joseph, Wright among others.

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I completely blanked on that entire Teague/Hill situation. Those guys both made sense on paper though. Is the George Hill bridge burned or something? It seemed like he had a great year there and then left to get massively overpaid by Sacramento. But yeah I could see Collison in that bracket as well. I could definitely see Beverley fitting in there, and Collison would be a great pickup too. CoJo and Wright I see as backups, but they could do plenty worse. I was under the impression that Satoransky was pretty much garbage though, and thoroughly outmatched starting at PG.

Gobert called out Hill among other players for chasing their own stats. Hill took offence to this and it rocked the boat. Hill missed a defensive assignment against the warriors and Rudy again yelled at him and then Hill proceeded to not play for the rest of the series, essentially quitting on his team. Add in the fact that Jazz offered Hill a very generous contract 4/80(agent convinced him he was worth more, later fired his agent) I just highly doubt Utah would bring him back with how he rubbed the leader of the team, the wrong way.

Satoransky is a bit of a wildcard, good size and Utah definitely likes their international players. I'd imagine we would look to him before considering Hill again.

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[babyjax13]

For sure Jeff Teague

That's a good one. Likely can be done without the first and I think Minny would still go for it.

The whole Exum contract makes me a bit iffy without the first, and I'm basically the conductor of the "Jeff Teague is probably getting traded" train. With the first, I'd happily do it for the flexibility it would give us, but otherwise, I think I pass.

I think we'd be better off dumping Dante into someone's cap space using our first and signing a point guard. Not that the proposal is bad, but I'd rather keep Crowder, if possible.

[Wolverine]

Jazz would not want Teague. Look at the history

[KqWIN]

People need to stop making this about Exum. In a scenario where Rubio is gone and not replaced by a nominal PG, Mitchell will become that nominal PG. If the new player isn't a guard (in this case Harris), O'Neale will be getting the promotion in minutes.

[Scoot McGroot]

Randle is a Center, stretch PF? what?

He's 6'9 and shot 34% from 3 on 2.7 attempts. The Jazz would certainly use him as a stretch 4 (and some backup 5).

HIs average shot distance last year was 8.3 feet and his career average shot distance is less than 7 feet from the basketball. He’s an old school classic kind of PF who can hit the 3 on occasion. Almost 75% of his FGA were inside of 10’ last year. I think his long range shot is more of a complement on occasion to keep teams honest. Kind of strikes me as like he’s an offensive yin to The yang of a Thad Young. The 3 isn’t a key tool, but it’s just enough to keep defenses honest?