Brett Brown : Not Today!

[BullyKing]

There are two ways Brett can lose his job. One, getting blown out and embarrassed tomorrow. Two, Jimmy will not resign if he returns

Is that still Butler's position or has he softened now that Brown is giving him more free reign on offense?

Last I had heard, he hadn’t changed his position. However, that was before the playoffs

It's a players league so I'm taking Butler over Brown but I hope it doesn't come to that. I just don't think its fair to fire a coach who won 50 games, took the Raptors to game 7 (at least) all while having to adjust to basically three different teams over the course of a season while continuing to manage an urgent care clinic. And given the lack of loyalty this ownership group showed to Hinkie and now Brown, I shudder at the quality of coach they could attract.

[fl311]

Is that still Butler's position or has he softened now that Brown is giving him more free reign on offense?

Last I had heard, he hadn’t changed his position. However, that was before the playoffs

It's a players league so I'm taking Butler over Brown but I hope it doesn't come to that. I just don't think its fair to fire a coach who won 50 games, took the Raptors to game 7 (at least) all while having to adjust to basically three different teams over the course of a season while continuing to manage an urgent care clinic. And given the lack of loyalty this ownership group showed to Hinkie and now Brown, I shudder at the quality of coach they could attract.

I wonder how Jo and Ben would feel about Jimmy having say over the coach. They’ve been with Brett since the beginning and trust him.

[Processing76]

There are two ways Brett can lose his job. One, getting blown out and embarrassed tomorrow. Two, Jimmy will not resign if he returns

Is that still Butler's position or has he softened now that Brown is giving him more free reign on offense?

Sorry kinda new to these forums as you can tell.. does fl311 have inside sources? I don't remember Jimmy ever saying that he'd leave if Brett was still the coach?

[XtremeDunkz]

Is that still Butler's position or has he softened now that Brown is giving him more free reign on offense?

Last I had heard, he hadn’t changed his position. However, that was before the playoffs

It's a players league so I'm taking Butler over Brown but I hope it doesn't come to that. I just don't think its fair to fire a coach who won 50 games, took the Raptors to game 7 (at least) all while having to adjust to basically three different teams over the course of a season while continuing to manage an urgent care clinic. And given the lack of loyalty this ownership group showed to Hinkie and now Brown, I shudder at the quality of coach they could attract.

Jimmy isnt dumb. He knows he can run the team way better than Simmons as the main ball handler, and now he has shown it. It will be interesting to see what happen with all 3 of them (Brett, Ben and Jimmy).

[BullyKing]

Last I had heard, he hadn’t changed his position. However, that was before the playoffs

It's a players league so I'm taking Butler over Brown but I hope it doesn't come to that. I just don't think its fair to fire a coach who won 50 games, took the Raptors to game 7 (at least) all while having to adjust to basically three different teams over the course of a season while continuing to manage an urgent care clinic. And given the lack of loyalty this ownership group showed to Hinkie and now Brown, I shudder at the quality of coach they could attract.

I wonder how Jo and Ben would feel about Jimmy having say over the coach. They’ve been with Brett since the beginning and trust him.

Ugh, I assumed those guys would be good with it because if firing Brown would piss off Jo and Ben then I really have no idea what these fools are thinking.

[BullyKing]

There are two ways Brett can lose his job. One, getting blown out and embarrassed tomorrow. Two, Jimmy will not resign if he returns

Is that still Butler's position or has he softened now that Brown is giving him more free reign on offense?

Sorry kinda new to these forums as you can tell.. does fl311 have inside sources? I don't remember Jimmy ever saying that he'd leave if Brett was still the coach?

All I can say is that he has provided information before it became public multiple times that proved to be accurate.

[USWAY]

Brett has literally given Jimmy the keys to the team and has told Ben Simmons to go stand over next to the basket. Whatever difference in philosophy was ailing them before has to have been fixed by now

[BullyKing]

Last I had heard, he hadn’t changed his position. However, that was before the playoffs

It's a players league so I'm taking Butler over Brown but I hope it doesn't come to that. I just don't think its fair to fire a coach who won 50 games, took the Raptors to game 7 (at least) all while having to adjust to basically three different teams over the course of a season while continuing to manage an urgent care clinic. And given the lack of loyalty this ownership group showed to Hinkie and now Brown, I shudder at the quality of coach they could attract.

Jimmy isnt dumb. He knows he can run the team way better than Simmons as the main ball handler, and now he has shown it. It will be interesting to see what happen with all 3 of them (Brett, Ben and Jimmy).

He's not dumb but he should also probably realize that there is going to be an adjustment period where this team keeps remaking its roster in terms of figuring out the best way to maximize everyone's talent. Brown has given Butler a lot more control of the offense in the playoffs but Jimmy was also being very timid himself through most of the season.

His big complaint about Minnesota is that Wiggins and Towns were dogs on defense. He should see that our young players here give maximum effort on defense and you'd think he would realize that Brown deserves some credit for instilling that in them. It's like Simmons was a defensive force in college.

[LloydFree]

There are two ways Brett can lose his job. One, getting blown out and embarrassed tomorrow. Two, Jimmy will not resign if he returns

Is that still Butler's position or has he softened now that Brown is giving him more free reign on offense?

Sorry kinda new to these forums as you can tell.. does fl311 have inside sources? I don't remember Jimmy ever saying that he'd leave if Brett was still the coach?

None whatsoever.

[BullyKing]

Is that still Butler's position or has he softened now that Brown is giving him more free reign on offense?

Sorry kinda new to these forums as you can tell.. does fl311 have inside sources? I don't remember Jimmy ever saying that he'd leave if Brett was still the coach?

None whatsoever.

I know you're not big on actual facts but he said this before Game 6:

If they dont win tonight, Brett isnt coming back.

Which is pretty much what the respected national guys are now saying about Game 7.

[PhillyPhilly]

The issue with Brett is how many players has he actually improved? I mean let's take Ben for example. Would Pop allow Ben's shooting issue to be as bad as Brett has? Would Pop allow Joel to not look after his body better? We should always be looking for the next great coach, because if we find one then our chances of winning a title are million times more likely. Especially with the talent we currently have on the roster.

[fl311]

The issue with Brett is how many players has he actually improved? I mean let's take Ben for example. Would Pop allow Ben's shooting issue to be as bad as Brett has? Would Pop allow Joel to not look after his body better? We should always be looking for the next great coach, because if we find one then our chances of winning a title are million times more likely. Especially with the talent we currently have on the roster.

that’s all well and good, but there isn’t any guaranteed winner out there. You’re either hiring a retread or taking a huge chance on an assistant.

If you plan on firing him, you better be damn sure you have a better replacement lined up.

[BullyKing]

The issue with Brett is how many players has he actually improved? I mean let's take Ben for example. Would Pop allow Ben's shooting issue to be as bad as Brett has? Would Pop allow Joel to not look after his body better? We should always be looking for the next great coach, because if we find one then our chances of winning a title are million times more likely. Especially with the talent we currently have on the roster.

Oh well that's great - so who is this next great coach? Because you're much more likely to be hiring the next Johnny Davis than the next Popovich.

[XtremeDunkz]

I would have been okay letting Brett go for Lloyd Pierce, but this year I dont see anything that would make me feel good. Want nothing to do with Lue.

[BullyKing]

Ultimately I feel the same way about bringing back Brown as I do Tobias Harris. I'm not wedded to either guy but I'm gonna need to hear what the better alternatives are before I'm board with it because until then I'm going to assume we're ending up with Mirotic and Stan Van Gundy instead.

[Sixerscan]

The issue with Brett is how many players has he actually improved? I mean let's take Ben for example. Would Pop allow Ben's shooting issue to be as bad as Brett has? Would Pop allow Joel to not look after his body better? We should always be looking for the next great coach, because if we find one then our chances of winning a title are million times more likely. Especially with the talent we currently have on the roster.

Come on...

[PhillyPhilly]

Jarron Collins at Golden State looks like he could be a special coach imo. But it would be his first head coaching job so nothing is certain. So right now either they have their eye on an assistant that they like, or they go for experience like Ty Lue, Mark Jackson or whoever. It makes me laugh though because when Bill Belichick was at the Browns he had ONE winning season In four years with no championships to his name and then got fired. He then goes to the Pats, gets Tom Brady and the rest is history. Folks discredit Ty Lue because he had Lebron, yet they praise Bellichick, praise Phil Jackson, Praise Pat Riley etc etc. This is why I shall continue to beat the drum for Ty Lue because it's simply not fair. Kevin Love came out the other day and said "Ty is a brilliant x's and o's guy", but that doesn't suit folks agenda because all they seem to think he was merely a mascot for Lebron smh.

[BullyKing]

Jarron Collins at Golden State looks like he could be a special coach imo. But it would be his first head coaching job so nothing is certain. So right now either they have their eye on an assistant that they like, or they go for experience like Ty Lue, Mark Jackson or whoever. It makes me laugh though because when Bill Belichick was at the Browns he had ONE winning season In four years and then got fired. He then goes to the Pats, gets Tom Brady and the rest is history. Folks discredit Ty Lue because he had Lebron, yet they praise Bellichick, praise Phil Jackson, Praise Pat Riley etc etc. This is why I shall continue to beat the drum for Ty Lue because it's simply not fair. Kevin Love came out the other day and said "Ty is a brilliant x's and o's guy", but that doesn't suit folks agenda because all they seem to think he did was be a mascot for Lebron smh.

I would love to hear more about why you think Jarron Collins looks like he could be special other than presumably because he currently works for Golden State.

[PhillyPhilly]

Jarron Collins at Golden State looks like he could be a special coach imo. But it would be his first head coaching job so nothing is certain. So right now either they have their eye on an assistant that they like, or they go for experience like Ty Lue, Mark Jackson or whoever. It makes me laugh though because when Bill Belichick was at the Browns he had ONE winning season In four years and then got fired. He then goes to the Pats, gets Tom Brady and the rest is history. Folks discredit Ty Lue because he had Lebron, yet they praise Bellichick, praise Phil Jackson, Praise Pat Riley etc etc. This is why I shall continue to beat the drum for Ty Lue because it's simply not fair. Kevin Love came out the other day and said "Ty is a brilliant x's and o's guy", but that doesn't suit folks agenda because all they seem to think he did was be a mascot for Lebron smh.

I would love to hear more about why you think Jarron Collins looks like he could be special other than presumably because he currently works for Golden State.

Well his background is in player development, analytics and scouting. Plus he's apparently a bit of a geek when it comes the x's and o's. Him being part of a winning environment and being a former player is obviously a bonus too. Nothing is promised of course, But I like the fact that he's worn many hats on his journey up the ranks so should have a more well rounded philosophy when it comes to being a head coach.

[phifans]

Its naive to think FO would make decision based on one game. Its more likely FO wants to get rid of BB long ago considering his so so performance as our Head Coach in last five years. Its just they give BB a chance to persuade them keeping him next season , the condition however would be real hard to achieve.