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Post#501 » by Ghost of Kleine » Mon May 13, 2019 11:56 pm

Guys, can we get back to talking about Jackson being traded, And the absurd and illogical ideas that I will as usual come up with for this board to discuss??...lol... :oops: :tooth :crazy: :lol: :lol:

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Post#502 » by Fo-Real » Tue May 14, 2019 12:05 am

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Preppers are crazy. Doubting the integrity of regular people given guns and an inflated sense of power is smart. But cool... it's the internet, continue to make wild judgments on people without knowing anything about anything. I'm done.


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Post#506 » by kingstyyyle » Tue May 14, 2019 12:15 am

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grumpysaddle wrote:Innocent until proven guilty, but it's already out there and he's kind of dumb, so people will already yell "GUILTY!" at him. I live under a simple rule... ACAB. All Cops Are Bastards. There are no good cops, so I don't believe anything a cop says until there is undeniable and provable facts about whatever happening actually happening. I also don't see how trying to enter a VIP area "too many times" is cause for handcuffing someone. I've snuck into backstage or VIP areas plenty of times. If I get caught, I get thrown out. How is arresting someone a valid way to deal with the situation. Something smells fishy here.


This is such horsesh*t. Saying all law enforcement are bastards is just as narrow minded as saying all black people are killers and thieves. It's just plain ignorance. There are good cops and bad cops. There are black cops and white cops. There are good people and bad people. Then there are idiots like Josh Jackson. If you get arrested for trying to sneak in a VIP area that's your freaking fault. It's called stupidity. Nothing fishy about it at all.

People choose to become cops. People don't choose their race. So it is nothing alike. I don't know why race was brought into this. So, sneaking into a VIP area is justifiably an arrest-able offense? Okay, sureeeeee....

Seriously. There is a specific type of person that wants to become a cop.
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Post#508 » by lilfishi22 » Tue May 14, 2019 12:19 am

alamin330 wrote:Since I live in Miami I feel obligated to provide some background info. The city of Miami Gardens was targeting young minorities at this festival. They wanted to search lil Wayne which forced him to drop from the festival. They also arrested Kodak black for weapons charges. Let’s not all hate on josh because of dirty racist cops in Miami. He shouldn’t have ran but trying to get into VIP doesn’t sound like a reason to be arrested. Miami Gardens is also Home to one of the most crime in Miami. The police there are out of control and will arrest anyone black and moving. This also goes along with Memorial Day weekend on south beach. The police and government are trying hard to end that event so they arrest everyone for anything. It’s moreso the police and politicians trying to control anything hip hop or having to deal with minorities than it is them being menaces. Although Kodak black isn’t the smartest person I would hold judgement on Josh jackson for now knowing where this happened and by who

He's an idiot for trying to run away with handcuffs on. That's what he's being judged on. Yeah maybe getting to that point *might* be unjust (who knows the real story) but once you're there, trying to run away is just extremely poor decision making on his end.

When you're a professional athlete, making guaranteed millions a year, you've GOT to be smarter than this. And when you have that kind of money and the likely level of legal representation on your side, getting arrested should only be a small blip on the radar for you. But to run away (to where?) and expect no one to know who you are (I'm sure he told the security who he was) is just incredibly dumb and that's what he's being judged on
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Post#509 » by Cutter » Tue May 14, 2019 12:38 am

Yep, I doubt Josh Jackson really did anything wrong trying to repeatedly get into a VIP area at the music festival:

Affidavit: Kansas' Josh Jackson made threats against women's basketball player

Kansas freshman Josh Jackson made verbal, violent threats against a Kansas women’s basketball player, according to an affidavit that was unsealed Thursday.

Douglas County District Court officials released the affidavit that, via the Lawrence Journal-World, can be read here.

The document contains statements from three Kansas women’s players, including McKenzie Calvert, whose father recently openly questioned why his daughter was punished by her coach but Jackson was not punished by his.

On page 7 of the affidavit, Calvert alleges Jackson “was yelling for her to get out of the car and that he would beat her a--.”

The incident is tied to Jackson damaging Calvert’s car the night of Dec. 9 in Lawrence after a heated incident between Calvert and her ex-boyfriend, Kansas player Lagereald Vick. Vick allegedly physically abused Calvert in December of 2015. Calvert threw a drink on Vick and left a bar this past December. The affidavit reads that Jackson followed Calvert to her car, and she eventually locked herself in the vehicle.

That is when Jackson allegedly began damaging the vehicle and made the threat. Jackson was charged with misdemeanor property damage in February.

Jackson was suspended for the start of the Big 12 tournament by coach Bill Self, but the incident was related to a fender-bender by Jackson in February that he did not tell Self about for nearly a month. Kansas is the No. 1 seed in the Midwest Region and plays Friday night against UC Davis. Jackson is scheduled to play in that game.

“[Jackson] is a tough-minded individual; I think he’s focused,” Self told reporters at a press conference in Tulsa on Thursday, according to the AP. “And certainly his role or playing time or whatnot, whatever, will only be dictated by what happens between the lines. It won’t be dictated by anything else.”

Jackson’s damage of Calvert’s vehicle was put at $1,127 with a total repair charge of $3,150, per the affidavit. The district attorney did not levy harsher charges on Jackson because there was not sufficient evidence to indicate Jackson was the only person who damaged the vehicle.
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Post#511 » by lilfishi22 » Tue May 14, 2019 12:50 am

It's funny, in my experience, those who have NOTHING but negative things to say about police are almost ALWAYS those who have dealt with them in the past and have been on the wrong side of the law according to the police. *I'm not talking about any poster here, I'm just talking about my experience*

But the VAST majority of people are neutral or have positive thoughts about the police because most people have only ever dealt with the police once, maybe twice every decade or so and very few of those encounters are ever negative. I live in Australia and perhaps it's less "heavy handed" here but even here, the only ones that have nothing good to say about the police are pretty much always those who for some reason have some kind of complex about "the man" trying to stop them from doing "nothing". Police don't give a **** about what most people do, they physically don't have the manpower to question each and every citizen about what they are doing, unless you give them a reason to. And in most circumstances where there is some suspicion of potential wrongdoing, it usually leads to a discussion and that's it.

This whole "all cops are dogs" mantra is only ever repeated by this small minority of society. But yet if all cops are bad cops then that same sentiment should be felt or at least be widely accepted by a much bigger majority. But it's just not the case. Perhaps because *most* people are law abiding citizen and *most* cops aren't bad cops.
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Post#512 » by KLEON » Tue May 14, 2019 1:02 am

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Post#513 » by bigfoot » Tue May 14, 2019 1:14 am

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grumpysaddle wrote:Innocent until proven guilty, but it's already out there and he's kind of dumb, so people will already yell "GUILTY!" at him. I live under a simple rule... ACAB. All Cops Are Bastards. There are no good cops, so I don't believe anything a cop says until there is undeniable and provable facts about whatever happening actually happening. I also don't see how trying to enter a VIP area "too many times" is cause for handcuffing someone. I've snuck into backstage or VIP areas plenty of times. If I get caught, I get thrown out. How is arresting someone a valid way to deal with the situation. Something smells fishy here.


This is such horsesh*t. Saying all law enforcement are bastards is just as narrow minded as saying all black people are killers and thieves. It's just plain ignorance. There are good cops and bad cops. There are black cops and white cops. There are good people and bad people. Then there are idiots like Josh Jackson. If you get arrested for trying to sneak in a VIP area that's your freaking fault. It's called stupidity. Nothing fishy about it at all.

People choose to become cops. People don't choose their race. So it is nothing alike. I don't know why race was brought into this. So, sneaking into a VIP area is justifiably an arrest-able offense? Okay, sureeeeee....


Sneaking in means you didn't pay. It means you're stealing from somebody else. From the entertainment, from the staff working the show, from the concessioners, etc. A thief is a thief ... doesn't matter how it's done. It's knowing right-from-wrong. Just like you expect every cop to be perfect why can't Josh Jackson just pay his way. The stupid f*ck has millions of dollars. Go ahead and try to justify your position but Jackson is a thief and was stupid enough to get a misdemeanor for resisting arrest and then a felony charge for escape. You admitting to sneaking back stage makes you a thief too and I'm sure police have been all over your azz for stupid stuff you have done. That's your problem buddy. Maybe take a hard look at yourself and become a better member of society.
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Post#514 » by Crives » Tue May 14, 2019 1:20 am

Whatever the FO determines is best to do with Josh, they better act like their keeping him until they get Oubre resigned, don’t want to give Oubre more leverage in negotiating
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Post#515 » by lilfishi22 » Tue May 14, 2019 1:24 am

Crives wrote:Whatever the FO determines is best to do with Josh, they better act like their keeping him until they get Oubre resigned, don’t want to give Oubre more leverage in negotiating

I think Oubre and his camp knows where he stands with the organisation. TJ is probably the biggest factor because they play the same position and has proven to be an NBA player unlike JJ. I just hope they get a deal done sooner rather than later even if it means a slight overpay ($12-15m per) because I don't trust free agency to be reasonable with regards to contract offers.
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Post#516 » by bigfoot » Tue May 14, 2019 1:27 am

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This is such horsesh*t. Saying all law enforcement are bastards is just as narrow minded as saying all black people are killers and thieves. It's just plain ignorance. There are good cops and bad cops. There are black cops and white cops. There are good people and bad people. Then there are idiots like Josh Jackson. If you get arrested for trying to sneak in a VIP area that's your freaking fault. It's called stupidity. Nothing fishy about it at all.

People choose to become cops. People don't choose their race. So it is nothing alike. I don't know why race was brought into this. So, sneaking into a VIP area is justifiably an arrest-able offense? Okay, sureeeeee....

Seriously. There is a specific type of person that wants to become a cop.


Have you heard of Jeri Williams, a black African-American woman, and the Phoenix Chief of Police. Or Paul Penzone, Maricopa County Sheriff who thankfully beat out the racist, scumbag Joe Arapio in the last election. Both of these law enforcement leaders say the biggest problem they have is recruiting new officers. Who after all wants a low paying job where you get shot at, cursed at, spit at, pee and crap thrown at you, and disrespected on a daily basis. Well, I guess you could sign up to be a teacher too.
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Post#517 » by Cutter » Tue May 14, 2019 1:32 am

I feel like we will get a decent, team friendly contract with Oubre. He started only 19 games in 3 1/2 years with Wizards, but when he came to the Suns he eventually ended up starting (12 out of 40 games) and playing a career high 29 minutes per game. He knows he has a solid spot on this team and is a founding member of the ValleyBoyz. If his agent asks for an outrageous contract I'll be very surprised.
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Post#518 » by Waylay13 » Tue May 14, 2019 1:33 am

Guys over the years i have known both good and bad police officers. In many cases the bad police officers do something bad because they are under stress. I will also say that I have not known many 22 years old that dont do a bunch of dumb things. I do want to point out at this time we really dont know what happened and this could and likely end up being dismissed before it ever reaches a court. Lets be clear this isnt sexual assault of of a teen (Kevin Johnson), throwing someone through a window (Charles Barkley), beating a wife (Jason Kidd), dealing drugs (Walter Davis), or even paying to have your pregnant girlfriend murdered (Jerroff Mustaf). Right now it looks like Josh has made a very bad choice that will impact him for years to come but we need to let the truth come out out and not jump to conclusions until we know what really happened. I am a Jackson fan and I think he can be something special in time but if he is a felon who is hurting people I am all for him being off this team as quick as possible. I am also concerned that Josh was at this event with Booker, Ayton and Kelly and they werent involved in whatever happened.
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Post#519 » by Cutter » Tue May 14, 2019 1:42 am

We don't need Booker and Ayton hanging out with idiots like Josh Jackson.
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Post#520 » by oddity » Tue May 14, 2019 1:53 am

Guys Darius Garland is gonna be good. If we get #3 or lower we should worry about trading down to get him, depending on which teams need a point guard between us. I like Ja and I really like Zion, But Garland is a solid consolation prize with a magnificent stroke
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