Chuma Okeke

[SpeedyG]

He would be prime candidate for the Nets 2nd round pick (Nets). He can heal up and develop in the GLeague

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[kobyz]

Okeke will get drafted in the 2nd round

I had him lottery before the injury, can't see him fall out of the first round still

[No-Man]

Man, anybody close to him should tell him to go, he is going to drop if he stays, gets back mid-late season next and maybe look bad, and then he is a Senior a year after (he is also a bit old for a sophomore, or towards old, turns 21 in August) right now, he is going to get drafted early 2nd, get a multi-year deal, and cash in about $2M guaranteed (well before taxes)

Staying makes no sense

Getting drafted in the second round gives him no guarantees, and teams are going to downgrade him big-time because they generally want their rookies to actually play. There's an ENORMOUS benefit to being a 1st rounder, and it makes all the sense in the world to wait a year in order to earn back his first round grade - which he likely did have before the injury.

You are looking at this very wrongly, he is still going to get drafted high enough to lock in a whole lot of money, high 2nd rounders have negotiated basically deals close to, or over the amount that some 1st rounders made.

Okeke was on his way to end up lotto or close to with good workouts/interviews, he is a lock to go top35-40, he is going to drop a bit (more cause he has no chance to improve on his current stock with working out more or showing out in the combine that because he is hurt) you don't pass on that esp when it's going to take him 8-10 months minimum, probably will look rusty when he is back with Auburn too and could lose a ton of leverage/status if for whatever reason he doesn't come back right or gets hurt again

He has way more to lose than to gain from coming back to school, it's pretty obvious for anybody coming at it rationally

[Stillwater]

What's going to be interesting is just how high he was on teams radars...1 acl tear is not back issues or multiple acl mcl history. The more I look at historical data...he could still go 20th as he was proving good enough to go 10th.
But like mentioned earlier 2nd rounders are non guaranteed and the injury kills negotiating power.
So a first round promise is the ticket

[MotownMadness]

What's going to be interesting is just how high he was on teams radars...1 acl tear is not back issues or multiple acl mcl history. The more I look at historical data...he could still go 20th as he was proving good enough to go 10th.
But like mentioned earlier 2nd rounders are non guaranteed and the injury kills negotiating power.
So a first round promise is the ticket

I was seriously wanting the Pistons to take him at 16 but now I think he’s someone I would grab around the late 20s early 2nd.

[clyde21]

looks like confirmed ACL tear and will probably have to RS his first season in the NBA.

i still say he's a top 45 guy.

[Stillwater]

What's going to be interesting is just how high he was on teams radars...1 acl tear is not back issues or multiple acl mcl history. The more I look at historical data...he could still go 20th as he was proving good enough to go 10th.
But like mentioned earlier 2nd rounders are non guaranteed and the injury kills negotiating power.
So a first round promise is the ticket

I was seriously wanting the Pistons to take him at 16 but now I think he’s someone I would grab around the late 20s early 2nd.

Yeah unless CLE gets Zion I could see them being players at 25. But with other healthy options they will probably pass. Boston will probably end up taking him given their 3 picks

[RipCity71252]

Hope Portland nabs him.

With Aminu being a free agent, there's a need for a combo forward and he'd be a nice long term fit at 4 alongside both Nurk and Collins.

Still worried about his stop/start athleticism and overall foot speed, but his fluidity, length, IQ and quick reactions give me hope that he can provide value defensively even if he doesn't prove to be ultra switchable.

Really like him offensively. Can get sped up at times, but I think he's got some sneaky game off the bounce, hits threes w/ mechanics that should translate to the NBA line pretty smoothly, knows where to be and is a great ball mover.

Quite kid, but he's competitive and a team player.

[Stillwater]

Hope Portland nabs him.

With Aminu being a free agent, there's a need for combo forward and he'd be a nice long term fit at 4 both Nurk or Collins.

Still worried about his stop/start athleticism and overall footspeed, but his fluidity, length, IQ and quick reactions give me hope that he can provide value defensively even if he doesn't prove to be ultra switchable.

Really like him offensively. Can get sped up at times, but I think he's got some sneaky game off the bounce, hits threes w/ mechanics that should translate to the NBA line pretty smoothly, knows where to be and is a great ball mover.

Quite kid, but he's competitive and a team player.

Yeah I agree with Okeke for the Blazers...and if CLE doesn't get Zion I hope Portland opts for someone else.

[Coeur]

For some reason this guy seems like an obvious pick for the sixers with one of the 2 in a row early seconds.

So someone has to draft him before then.


The process would be a great fit for him

[clyde21]

For some reason this guy seems like an obvious pick for the sixers with one of the 2 in a row early seconds.

So someone has to draft him before then.


The process would be a great fit for him

maybe if Philly is willing to take a guy who's gonna RS his first season, but I think they'll probably go a route with someone that's more ready to contribute immediately...i think they're eyeing either Tillie or Iggy Braz.

[Ruzious]

For some reason this guy seems like an obvious pick for the sixers with one of the 2 in a row early seconds.

So someone has to draft him before then.


The process would be a great fit for him

I'm thinking Milwaukee is hoping he's there for the last pick of the 1st round - assuming they don't trade the pick.

[Coeur]

For some reason this guy seems like an obvious pick for the sixers with one of the 2 in a row early seconds.

So someone has to draft him before then.


The process would be a great fit for him

maybe if Philly is willing to take a guy who's gonna RS his first season

You might be right. They might not be the type of team to do that

[clyde21]

For some reason this guy seems like an obvious pick for the sixers with one of the 2 in a row early seconds.

So someone has to draft him before then.


The process would be a great fit for him

I'm thinking Milwaukee is hoping he's there for the last pick of the 1st round - assuming they don't trade the pick.

the problem is the later you go in the draft, the more teams are looking for guys that can contribute immediately in the upcoming playoff run and I think that holds true for the Bucks too...if Okeke and Thybulle for example are available, I think they'll go with Thybulle just by virtue of him being able to play next season.

i think Okeke either goes relatively high (16-22) or just drops to the top of the 2nd.

[Coeur]

For some reason this guy seems like an obvious pick for the sixers with one of the 2 in a row early seconds.

So someone has to draft him before then.


The process would be a great fit for him

I'm thinking Milwaukee is hoping he's there for the last pick of the 1st round - assuming they don't trade the pick.

the problem is the later you go in the draft, the more teams are looking for guys that can contribute immediately in the upcoming playoff run and I think that holds true for the Bucks too...if Okeke and Thybulle for example are available, I think they'll go with Thybulle just by virtue of him being able to play next season.

i think Okeke either goes relatively high (16-22) or just drops to the top of the 2nd.

Agree on Thybulle being ready day 1. I’m a huge fan of his and Nowell both. And even though I hate Washington I can’t wait to see the center they’re bringing in.


I was joking earlier on Philly maybe not being a team willing to RS a guy because that’s been the process so far.


As a second round pick it is weird. You might only get one year of him on that deal

[pad300]

Would it be CBA legal for a team to promise Chuma (or Jontay Porter) a late first on the provision that he agrees not to take up his contract until next year ( the 20-21 NBA season), like a draft and stash pick in Europe.

Chuma wouldn't be playing for them anyway coming season (19-20) due to his injury. The team saves a roster spot and the cap space, as well as not burning a year of Chuma's rookie contract on his injury. Chuma would obviously get more guaranteed money than what he could expect as a 2nd round pick.

Presumably the team could choose to open their (medical and training) facilities to him even if he isn't under contract. ( I know the Spurs have done this with some of their european picks: Bertans got help with his ACL surgeries like this, and Javtokas had his motorcycle accident recovery managed.)

[Stillwater]

^ im guessing not...thats what negotiated non guaranteed 2nds are for.
i mean you draft in 1st him he gets paid the guanteed $ regardless

[kobyz]

Would it be CBA legal for a team to promise Chuma (or Jontay Porter) a late first on the provision that he agrees not to take up his contract until next year ( the 20-21 NBA season), like a draft and stash pick in Europe.

Chuma wouldn't be playing for them anyway coming season (19-20) due to his injury. The team saves a roster spot and the cap space, as well as not burning a year of Chuma's rookie contract on his injury. Chuma would obviously get more guaranteed money than what he could expect as a 2nd round pick.

Presumably the team could choose to open their (medical and training) facilities to him even if he isn't under contract. ( I know the Spurs have done this with some of their european picks: Bertans got help with his ACL surgeries like this, and Javtokas had his motorcycle accident recovery managed.)

Yes, OKC did this with Hustis

[pad300]

Would it be CBA legal for a team to promise Chuma (or Jontay Porter) a late first on the provision that he agrees not to take up his contract until next year ( the 20-21 NBA season), like a draft and stash pick in Europe.

Chuma wouldn't be playing for them anyway coming season (19-20) due to his injury. The team saves a roster spot and the cap space, as well as not burning a year of Chuma's rookie contract on his injury. Chuma would obviously get more guaranteed money than what he could expect as a 2nd round pick.

Presumably the team could choose to open their (medical and training) facilities to him even if he isn't under contract. ( I know the Spurs have done this with some of their european picks: Bertans got help with his ACL surgeries like this, and Javtokas had his motorcycle accident recovery managed.)

Yes, OKC did this with Hustis

Then I think that's his only real shot at a 1st round pick at this point. Same with Porter.

[PerkinsFor3]

Combining a hard to evaluate player with an even harder to evaluate draft class : where would you pick Okeke in the 2020 draft?