2019 Draft Discussion - Suns with 6th pick!

[Traveyknicks23]

Knicks fan here nba did you guys real dirty y’all didnt deserve that at all I said this on the bulls board too but the lakers at 4 is a travesty I’m sorry if we couldn’t win the lottery I was pulling for you guys to do it.whoever they end up with I hope balls out!

[lilfishi22]

Is it possible to land Bradley Beal in a trade revolving around the #6, the Milwaukee pick, and TJ? Tbh that might be our top candidate atm....

I don't think so. If it was a top 3 pick, MAYBE ? But outside of the top 3 the value of that draft pick really plummets

[WeekapaugGroove]

That's something that has been discussed by the NBA and I do think it's going to happen eventually. The lottery makes almost negligible revenue (ads, TV deal etc) compared to what a mini tournament would make. It makes financial sense to do a mini tournament and give something for lotto teams to actually play for

Imagine the Suns are having a bad season and lose booker and ayton to legit injuries. Then they are forced to play a tourney and lose in the first round as they don't have the talent to compete. Now they are punished and forced to pick late in the lottery.
The lottery will never be perfect. The way they have it is fine. Otherwise you'll see 6-8 seeded teams tank to be the better team that misses the playoffs and run over the bad teams to pick a great player.

Maybe they'll still be competing for better odds

There's no perfect way to handle it but I'd rather team competing for wins than competing for losses.

The wheel system that was brought up a few years ago is the only real way to prevent tanking entirely. It basically just sets all the picks for 30 years with no tie to record.

I hated the idea at first but actually kind of like it now.

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[King4Day]

Is it possible to land Bradley Beal in a trade revolving around the #6, the Milwaukee pick, and TJ? Tbh that might be our top candidate atm....

Most def not. He's their Booker. We wouldn't trade Book in a deal centered around the 6 so there's no way they'd move Beal for the same.

[golfnut44865]

Sign PF Julius Randle, resign Oubre. Trade JJ, TJ, #6 for PG(Derrick White, Dinwiddie, Smart)......stretch Tyler.

PG...White(Diwiddie, Smart)
SG...Booker
SF...Oubre/Bridges
PF...Randle
C...Ayton

[King4Day]

6. Phoenix Suns

Jarrett Culver
Texas Tech
Age: 20.1
G

Height: 6-foot-6 | Weight: 195

Culver helped Texas Tech overachieve significantly in reaching the national championship game. Although he struggled at times in the NCAA tournament, there is quite a bit to like about what he brings on both ends of the floor. Culver has the versatility to slide among any of the backcourt spots, and he's an active defender and rebounder. He displayed impressive shot-making and shot-creation prowess en route to winning Big 12 player of the year.

A slow release on his jump shot and average explosiveness beating defenders off the dribble are things he'll have to address in the pre-draft process, but he has as high a floor as any prospect and plenty of room to grow, considering his youth and late-blooming trajectory.

Culver is an interesting fit with Devin Booker, who has turned into a primary ball handler in Phoenix but can also play off the ball thanks to his tremendous perimeter shooting ability. While Suns fans might be clamoring for more of a traditional PG, Culver's NBA future is likely playing on the ball as a combo guard operating off a player in Booker's mold.

http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/26719722/nba-mock-draft-lottery-winners-do-now

[King4Day]

On the ESPN board, Clarke is falling to 11th. Would he be worth trading up to get if he's still on the board then?

[darealjuice]

Knicks can't be too upset. Instead of Zion, they'll just sell Griffin on the idea of pairing Zion with Barrett at #3 in a package for AD. Lakers are probably going to try doing the same with their pick, but I'd imagine there's a solid value drop at #4.

#6 really hurts us. We'll be lucky if Garland or Hunter are there. I'd have a hard time getting excited for Clarke as the result of this terrible season. Trade value isn't exactly high with this pick either.

Well if you think Garland and Hunter are gone would you be upset with Culver?

I'm upset we're even having this conversation lol.

I view Culver around the same as I do Garland and Hunter, but I don't see his fit with the team. We have too many young wings that need minutes, and I don't think Culver is a good enough prospect to invest a high value asset in another wing. I'm not convinced that he can play a lot of power forward either despite likely being bigger than his listed height and having a good frame.

[lilfishi22]

On the ESPN board, Clarke is falling to 11th. Would he be worth trading up to get if he's still on the board then?

Trade up with....?

[King4Day]

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[King4Day]

On the ESPN board, Clarke is falling to 11th. Would he be worth trading up to get if he's still on the board then?

Trade up with....?

If he lasts to the late lottery. Maybe a team would take Jackson and the Bucks pick.

[nevetsov]

Again, Jrue isn't going anywhere. Griffin even said so, and now with Zion, and also with the Lakers most certainly drafting Garland at 4.

And then trading him in their package for Davis ( as per Jrues' stated preference to be a shooting guard) allows them to run Garland at the point, Jrue at shooting guard, Ingram or Kuzma at small forward, and zion at power forward.

And of course Okafor at center, speeding up their rebuild.

Just watch it happen at the draft.

I would think they'd keep the Klutch client Garland in LA and flip Ball instead, given he already hinted in a departure from LA last season.

By all accounts, Garland is a better fit with LeBron as well.

[blee732]

6. Phoenix Suns

Jarrett Culver
Texas Tech
Age: 20.1
G

Height: 6-foot-6 | Weight: 195

Culver helped Texas Tech overachieve significantly in reaching the national championship game. Although he struggled at times in the NCAA tournament, there is quite a bit to like about what he brings on both ends of the floor. Culver has the versatility to slide among any of the backcourt spots, and he's an active defender and rebounder. He displayed impressive shot-making and shot-creation prowess en route to winning Big 12 player of the year.

A slow release on his jump shot and average explosiveness beating defenders off the dribble are things he'll have to address in the pre-draft process, but he has as high a floor as any prospect and plenty of room to grow, considering his youth and late-blooming trajectory.

Culver is an interesting fit with Devin Booker, who has turned into a primary ball handler in Phoenix but can also play off the ball thanks to his tremendous perimeter shooting ability. While Suns fans might be clamoring for more of a traditional PG, Culver's NBA future is likely playing on the ball as a combo guard operating off a player in Booker's mold.

http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/26719722/nba-mock-draft-lottery-winners-do-now

I've been trying to convince myself that Culver could be a good pick for us, maybe we could create a bigger, stronger version of the Lilliard/McCollum combo. His lack of athleticism is a bit concerning, in some of his highlights he barely clears the rim on wide open dunks. He LOOKS like he should be athletic though (frame/length), so perhaps it's just a matter of him growing into his body?

[blee732]

On the ESPN board, Clarke is falling to 11th. Would he be worth trading up to get if he's still on the board then?

I think teams typically over-value picks in the immediate draft, so I would rather trade down and pick up something else (bench player, protected pick) if we think he'll be there.

[Blonde]

Why do people think uniting Barrett and Zion is something that would be appealing to new Orleans. We had a whole year to see how they are a weird fit.

As I was saying earlier I think Memphis might snag Barrett at 2.

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My thoughts exactly regarding pairing Zion and Barrett. I don’t think that is very appealing to the Pelicans at all.

Now I do think that there is about a 95% chance Memphis takes Morant. I believe there are a number of teams who would take Barrett here but don’t see Memphis as one of them. It just makes too much sense to trade Conley and take Morant. Plus Murray State is really close to Memphis so I imagine those fans will embrace him right away.

I hadn't thought of the Murray St angle, good catch and you could be right.

The thing with Barrett is he was considered the concensus top froah coming into this college season, he absolutely balled out in the all Star camps. Teams spend years scouting these guys and tend to put less emphasis on one college season than media and fans do.

I also think Ja is a little over rated by fans because he's exciting but there are very real flaws in his game.

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I’m with you. I have Barrett over Morant by a decent margin.

[KLEON]

Sign PF Julius Randle, resign Oubre. Trade JJ, TJ, #6 for PG(Derrick White, Dinwiddie, Smart)......stretch Tyler.

PG...White(Diwiddie, Smart)
SG...Booker
SF...Oubre/Bridges
PF...Randle
C...Ayton

Take out TJ and I'm all for this. Its our only hope of having a PG for next season

[NyCeEvO]

So much unknown at this time but so many possibilities. I'm watching the D Russell options myself

I know Booker and DLo are best friends, but do the Suns actually want DLo? If so, do you think they would prefer acquiring him or drafting a PG?

I think it was one of the local radio guys (Gambo - correct me if I'm wrong) that mentioned DLo will be an off season target.

Early in the season, many Nets fans thought PHX would be interested in DLo at some point before the trade deadline. Prior to his great 3 month run between December and the allstar break, I think a lot of us were hoping that our GM would consider trading him to the Suns, if the return value was good enough.

I don't know where things stand between DLo and the Nets now though. The majority of fans (myself included) don't believe DLo is worth his max even though that could be the going rate for someone of his age and who performed as well as he did last season. DLo may believe that he is worth the max considering how good he was during that stretch.

Since the Nets have the rights to match any offer sheet given to him, I could see a situation where the Nets would be willing to trade/S&T him, but I doubt PHX would give up their pick for him.

[oddity]

Ugh I'm sorry, but thinking about having the 6th pick feels like I'm drowning.
I'm desperately flailing for some kinda trade.
Can we godfather offer Memphis to trade up??
Can we package the pick and TJ for a legit PG????
Getting Ja would've great for us because it gives us a great image for FAs without breaking the bank, but that dream is all but dead in the water now.

[KLEON]

Ugh I'm sorry, but thinking about having the 6th pick feels like I'm drowning.
I'm desperately flailing for some kinda trade.
Can we godfather offer Memphis to trade up??
Can we package the pick and TJ for a legit PG????
Getting Ja would've great for us because it gives us a great image for FAs without breaking the bank, but that dream is all but dead in the water now.

My God I wish that would happen

[nevetsov]

Anyone do #6 for Ball?

Uses the pick to fill the PG hole with someone already game tested, possibly better than anyone we can get in that slot anyway.

Risk is we are strengthening the Lakers' hand at an AD play - they would have both #4 and #6 to include now. But if it doesn't play out for them, they are stuck with two rookies to develop through LeBron's twilight years.