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Bish did a nice job with the extensions. Let's all sign off on this.

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I like the extension model for average or good NBA players, but there should be two more layers to the model.
All-Star during rookie contract = 30% of the cap regardless of years extended
All-NBA during rookie contract = 35% of the cap regardless of years extended
On the open market those type of young players can get 30-50% of the cap.
Here's a list of what the open market paid sophomore or third year players who a lot of people thought could be perennial all-stars or All-NBA talent:
KAT $500
Porzingis $505
Ben Simmons $395
Devin Booker $390
Brandon Ingram $271
All-Star during rookie contract = 30% of the cap regardless of years extended
All-NBA during rookie contract = 35% of the cap regardless of years extended
On the open market those type of young players can get 30-50% of the cap.
Here's a list of what the open market paid sophomore or third year players who a lot of people thought could be perennial all-stars or All-NBA talent:
KAT $500
Porzingis $505
Ben Simmons $395
Devin Booker $390
Brandon Ingram $271
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G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
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F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
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G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
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Smash3 wrote:I like the extension model for average or good NBA players, but there should be two more layers to the model.
All-Star during rookie contract = 30% of the cap regardless of years extended
All-NBA during rookie contract = 35% of the cap regardless of years extended
On the open market those type of young players can get 30-50% of the cap.
Here's a list of what the open market paid sophomore or third year players who a lot of people thought could be perennial all-stars or All-NBA talent:
KAT $500
Porzingis $505
Ben Simmons $395
Devin Booker $390
Brandon Ingram $271
I like this but what if u extended in year 1 ad player is an allstar in year 4 and dont have the capspace for the additional amount in years 5-8 even though u already extended him in year 1?
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bringbackhoffa wrote:Smash3 wrote:I like the extension model for average or good NBA players, but there should be two more layers to the model.
All-Star during rookie contract = 30% of the cap regardless of years extended
All-NBA during rookie contract = 35% of the cap regardless of years extended
On the open market those type of young players can get 30-50% of the cap.
Here's a list of what the open market paid sophomore or third year players who a lot of people thought could be perennial all-stars or All-NBA talent:
KAT $500
Porzingis $505
Ben Simmons $395
Devin Booker $390
Brandon Ingram $271
I like this but what if u extended in year 1 ad player is an allstar in year 4 and dont have the capspace for the additional amount in years 5-8 even though u already extended him in year 1?
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If a team does not have the salary cap room to pay the salary raise he is eligible for as a result of making the All-NBA or all-star team; the player will become a free agent the next season. The team will keep the player for an additional year after the player is eligible for a raise, but must clear cap space for him by the following free agency period or he’ll be a free agent.
So every player signing the extension contracts have clauses in their contracts making them eligible for salary raises being equal to 30% or 35% of the cap space. If the team can't pay the player which they have an entire year to make room to pay him, the contract is void and he becomes a free agent.
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G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
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F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
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G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
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Smash3 wrote:bringbackhoffa wrote:Smash3 wrote:I like the extension model for average or good NBA players, but there should be two more layers to the model.
All-Star during rookie contract = 30% of the cap regardless of years extended
All-NBA during rookie contract = 35% of the cap regardless of years extended
On the open market those type of young players can get 30-50% of the cap.
Here's a list of what the open market paid sophomore or third year players who a lot of people thought could be perennial all-stars or All-NBA talent:
KAT $500
Porzingis $505
Ben Simmons $395
Devin Booker $390
Brandon Ingram $271
I like this but what if u extended in year 1 ad player is an allstar in year 4 and dont have the capspace for the additional amount in years 5-8 even though u already extended him in year 1?
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If a team does not have the salary cap room to pay the salary raise he is eligible for as a result of making the All-NBA or all-star team; the player will become a free agent the next season. The team will keep the player for an additional year after the player is eligible for a raise, but must clear cap space for him by the following free agency period or he’ll be a free agent.
So every player signing the extension contracts have clauses in their contracts making them eligible for salary raises being equal to 30% or 35% of the cap space. If the team can't pay the player which they have an entire year to make room to pay him, the contract is void and he becomes a free agent.
I like it cap management would become relevant and tier 1 players would be getting what they deserve
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Smash3 wrote:bringbackhoffa wrote:Smash3 wrote:I like the extension model for average or good NBA players, but there should be two more layers to the model.
All-Star during rookie contract = 30% of the cap regardless of years extended
All-NBA during rookie contract = 35% of the cap regardless of years extended
On the open market those type of young players can get 30-50% of the cap.
Here's a list of what the open market paid sophomore or third year players who a lot of people thought could be perennial all-stars or All-NBA talent:
KAT $500
Porzingis $505
Ben Simmons $395
Devin Booker $390
Brandon Ingram $271
I like this but what if u extended in year 1 ad player is an allstar in year 4 and dont have the capspace for the additional amount in years 5-8 even though u already extended him in year 1?
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If a team does not have the salary cap room to pay the salary raise he is eligible for as a result of making the All-NBA or all-star team; the player will become a free agent the next season. The team will keep the player for an additional year after the player is eligible for a raise, but must clear cap space for him by the following free agency period or he’ll be a free agent.
So every player signing the extension contracts have clauses in their contracts making them eligible for salary raises being equal to 30% or 35% of the cap space. If the team can't pay the player which they have an entire year to make room to pay him, the contract is void and he becomes a free agent.
Couple issues that I can foresee with this, and maybe I’m not reading your proposal correctly so let me know if I have it wrong.
First, making extensions 30-35% of the cap will basically eliminate extensions IMO. Not one team in the league can offer an extension this year because no one has $300-$350 in cap space (I believe this is true, I’m at work and didn’t go through every team). So basically, if you draft well, draft an all star, you would need to gut a big portion of your team in order to sign your drafted all star to an extension. IMO, this model won’t work like it does in the NBA because we have a hard cap that teams can’t go over to resign or extend their own player.
Second issue, and this is where I was confused. I don’t want players salaries changing year to year. It sounds like you want an extension to automatically kick in if a player reaches a certain level? Or have a player become a free agent if he reaches a new level during his contract and the team can’t afford the cost of the new deal? I think this is pretty much a logistical nightmare for me to try and keep track of which players are due raises and which extensions no longer are in effect due to all star selections etc. But maybe I’m reading your proposal wrong?
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bishnykfan wrote:Smash3 wrote:bringbackhoffa wrote:I like this but what if u extended in year 1 ad player is an allstar in year 4 and dont have the capspace for the additional amount in years 5-8 even though u already extended him in year 1?
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If a team does not have the salary cap room to pay the salary raise he is eligible for as a result of making the All-NBA or all-star team; the player will become a free agent the next season. The team will keep the player for an additional year after the player is eligible for a raise, but must clear cap space for him by the following free agency period or he’ll be a free agent.
So every player signing the extension contracts have clauses in their contracts making them eligible for salary raises being equal to 30% or 35% of the cap space. If the team can't pay the player which they have an entire year to make room to pay him, the contract is void and he becomes a free agent.
Couple issues that I can foresee with this, and maybe I’m not reading your proposal correctly so let me know if I have it wrong.
First, making extensions 30-35% of the cap will basically eliminate extensions IMO. Not one team in the league can offer an extension this year because no one has $300-$350 in cap space (I believe this is true, I’m at work and didn’t go through every team). So basically, if you draft well, draft an all star, you would need to gut a big portion of your team in order to sign your drafted all star to an extension. IMO, this model won’t work like it does in the NBA because we have a hard cap that teams can’t go over to resign or extend their own player.
Second issue, and this is where I was confused. I don’t want players salaries changing year to year. It sounds like you want an extension to automatically kick in if a player reaches a certain level? Or have a player become a free agent if he reaches a new level during his contract and the team can’t afford the cost of the new deal? I think this is pretty much a logistical nightmare for me to try and keep track of which players are due raises and which extensions no longer are in effect due to all star selections etc. But maybe I’m reading your proposal wrong?
I can see how that was unclear, what I am suggesting isn't going away from your extension model, but just adding a clause of automatic salary raise to the extension contracts being signed if they make the all-star team during their rookie contracts. The automatic salary raise would take effect during the extension years. Using your example of Bagley:

Let's say Magic gives Bags a three year extension, he'll be getting paid $113 the next six years unless he makes the all-star game during his rookie contract.
Example 1:
Bags becomes an all-star in his final year of his rookie contract 2022, Magic then have until the next free agency period (2023) to clear enough cap to pay him $300 for the 2023-2024 and 2024-2025 season. If Magic are unable to pay his automatic salary raise he becomes a free agent in 2023.
Example 2:
Bags never makes the all-star team or makes the all-star team in his extension years, he'll still be only getting paid $113 by the Magic.
Second issue: Having players salaries change won't be an issue for 99% of the players, in real life only KAT, Simmons, Embiid, Giannis, D'angelo Russell and Porzingis would be eligible to get paid $300 and $350 since they made an all-NBA or all-star team during their rookie contracts. This would make sure players who deserve to get paid get paid.
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Smash3 wrote:bishnykfan wrote:Smash3 wrote:
If a team does not have the salary cap room to pay the salary raise he is eligible for as a result of making the All-NBA or all-star team; the player will become a free agent the next season. The team will keep the player for an additional year after the player is eligible for a raise, but must clear cap space for him by the following free agency period or he’ll be a free agent.
So every player signing the extension contracts have clauses in their contracts making them eligible for salary raises being equal to 30% or 35% of the cap space. If the team can't pay the player which they have an entire year to make room to pay him, the contract is void and he becomes a free agent.
Couple issues that I can foresee with this, and maybe I’m not reading your proposal correctly so let me know if I have it wrong.
First, making extensions 30-35% of the cap will basically eliminate extensions IMO. Not one team in the league can offer an extension this year because no one has $300-$350 in cap space (I believe this is true, I’m at work and didn’t go through every team). So basically, if you draft well, draft an all star, you would need to gut a big portion of your team in order to sign your drafted all star to an extension. IMO, this model won’t work like it does in the NBA because we have a hard cap that teams can’t go over to resign or extend their own player.
Second issue, and this is where I was confused. I don’t want players salaries changing year to year. It sounds like you want an extension to automatically kick in if a player reaches a certain level? Or have a player become a free agent if he reaches a new level during his contract and the team can’t afford the cost of the new deal? I think this is pretty much a logistical nightmare for me to try and keep track of which players are due raises and which extensions no longer are in effect due to all star selections etc. But maybe I’m reading your proposal wrong?
I can see how that was unclear, what I am suggesting isn't going away from your extension model, but just adding a clause of automatic salary raise to the extension contracts being signed if they make the all-star team during their rookie contracts. The automatic salary raise would take effect during the extension years. Using your example of Bagley:
Let's say Magic gives Bags a three year extension, he'll be getting paid $113 the next six years unless he makes the all-star game during his rookie contract.
Example 1:
Bags becomes an all-star in his final year of his rookie contract 2022, Magic then have until the next free agency period (2023) to clear enough cap to pay him $300 for the 2023-2024 and 2024-2025 season. If Magic are unable to pay his automatic salary raise he becomes a free agent in 2023.
Example 2:
Bags never makes the all-star team or makes the all-star team in his extension years, he'll still be only getting paid $113 by the Magic.
Second issue: Having players salaries change won't be an issue for 99% of the players, in real life only KAT, Simmons, Embiid, Giannis, D'angelo Russell and Porzingis would be eligible to get paid $300 and $350 since they made an all-NBA or all-star team during their rookie contracts. This would make sure players who deserve to get paid get paid.
With that Bags example would his salary then be locked in at a minimum of 300k, and no team could sign him for less even if nobody had space or wanted to pay that much? It seems like teams would possibly be punished for drafting smart/getting lucky in the lotto, losing the player, and then other teams profiting as a result.
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King of Canada wrote:Smash3 wrote:bishnykfan wrote:
Couple issues that I can foresee with this, and maybe I’m not reading your proposal correctly so let me know if I have it wrong.
First, making extensions 30-35% of the cap will basically eliminate extensions IMO. Not one team in the league can offer an extension this year because no one has $300-$350 in cap space (I believe this is true, I’m at work and didn’t go through every team). So basically, if you draft well, draft an all star, you would need to gut a big portion of your team in order to sign your drafted all star to an extension. IMO, this model won’t work like it does in the NBA because we have a hard cap that teams can’t go over to resign or extend their own player.
Second issue, and this is where I was confused. I don’t want players salaries changing year to year. It sounds like you want an extension to automatically kick in if a player reaches a certain level? Or have a player become a free agent if he reaches a new level during his contract and the team can’t afford the cost of the new deal? I think this is pretty much a logistical nightmare for me to try and keep track of which players are due raises and which extensions no longer are in effect due to all star selections etc. But maybe I’m reading your proposal wrong?
I can see how that was unclear, what I am suggesting isn't going away from your extension model, but just adding a clause of automatic salary raise to the extension contracts being signed if they make the all-star team during their rookie contracts. The automatic salary raise would take effect during the extension years. Using your example of Bagley:
Let's say Magic gives Bags a three year extension, he'll be getting paid $113 the next six years unless he makes the all-star game during his rookie contract.
Example 1:
Bags becomes an all-star in his final year of his rookie contract 2022, Magic then have until the next free agency period (2023) to clear enough cap to pay him $300 for the 2023-2024 and 2024-2025 season. If Magic are unable to pay his automatic salary raise he becomes a free agent in 2023.
Example 2:
Bags never makes the all-star team or makes the all-star team in his extension years, he'll still be only getting paid $113 by the Magic.
Second issue: Having players salaries change won't be an issue for 99% of the players, in real life only KAT, Simmons, Embiid, Giannis, D'angelo Russell and Porzingis would be eligible to get paid $300 and $350 since they made an all-NBA or all-star team during their rookie contracts. This would make sure players who deserve to get paid get paid.
With that Bags example would his salary then be locked in at a minimum of 300k, and no team could sign him for less even if nobody had space or wanted to pay that much? It seems like teams would possibly be punished for drafting smart/getting lucky in the lotto, losing the player, and then other teams profiting as a result.
i wouldnt say it would have to be locked in, as the current GM would have the opportunity to bid on him during free agency. This would just make sure that the player gets top dollar whether it be $300 or more/less. A GM could always gamble and not sign the player to an extension thinking they could re-sign them for less in the off-season by monitoring what other teams have for cap-space. fyi i like to gamble..
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bringbackhoffa wrote:King of Canada wrote:Smash3 wrote:
I can see how that was unclear, what I am suggesting isn't going away from your extension model, but just adding a clause of automatic salary raise to the extension contracts being signed if they make the all-star team during their rookie contracts. The automatic salary raise would take effect during the extension years. Using your example of Bagley:
Let's say Magic gives Bags a three year extension, he'll be getting paid $113 the next six years unless he makes the all-star game during his rookie contract.
Example 1:
Bags becomes an all-star in his final year of his rookie contract 2022, Magic then have until the next free agency period (2023) to clear enough cap to pay him $300 for the 2023-2024 and 2024-2025 season. If Magic are unable to pay his automatic salary raise he becomes a free agent in 2023.
Example 2:
Bags never makes the all-star team or makes the all-star team in his extension years, he'll still be only getting paid $113 by the Magic.
Second issue: Having players salaries change won't be an issue for 99% of the players, in real life only KAT, Simmons, Embiid, Giannis, D'angelo Russell and Porzingis would be eligible to get paid $300 and $350 since they made an all-NBA or all-star team during their rookie contracts. This would make sure players who deserve to get paid get paid.
With that Bags example would his salary then be locked in at a minimum of 300k, and no team could sign him for less even if nobody had space or wanted to pay that much? It seems like teams would possibly be punished for drafting smart/getting lucky in the lotto, losing the player, and then other teams profiting as a result.
i wouldnt say it would have to be locked in, as the current GM would have the opportunity to bid on him during free agency. This would just make sure that the player gets top dollar whether it be $300 or more/less. A GM could always gamble and not sign the player to an extension thinking they could re-sign them for less in the off-season by monitoring what other teams have for cap-space. fyi i like to gamble..
That seems like nonsense

BAF Pacers
F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
RIP mags
F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
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King of Canada wrote:bringbackhoffa wrote:King of Canada wrote:
With that Bags example would his salary then be locked in at a minimum of 300k, and no team could sign him for less even if nobody had space or wanted to pay that much? It seems like teams would possibly be punished for drafting smart/getting lucky in the lotto, losing the player, and then other teams profiting as a result.
i wouldnt say it would have to be locked in, as the current GM would have the opportunity to bid on him during free agency. This would just make sure that the player gets top dollar whether it be $300 or more/less. A GM could always gamble and not sign the player to an extension thinking they could re-sign them for less in the off-season by monitoring what other teams have for cap-space. fyi i like to gamble..
That seems like nonsense
thats par for the course, most of what i say is nonsense
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King of Canada wrote:Smash3 wrote:bishnykfan wrote:
Couple issues that I can foresee with this, and maybe I’m not reading your proposal correctly so let me know if I have it wrong.
First, making extensions 30-35% of the cap will basically eliminate extensions IMO. Not one team in the league can offer an extension this year because no one has $300-$350 in cap space (I believe this is true, I’m at work and didn’t go through every team). So basically, if you draft well, draft an all star, you would need to gut a big portion of your team in order to sign your drafted all star to an extension. IMO, this model won’t work like it does in the NBA because we have a hard cap that teams can’t go over to resign or extend their own player.
Second issue, and this is where I was confused. I don’t want players salaries changing year to year. It sounds like you want an extension to automatically kick in if a player reaches a certain level? Or have a player become a free agent if he reaches a new level during his contract and the team can’t afford the cost of the new deal? I think this is pretty much a logistical nightmare for me to try and keep track of which players are due raises and which extensions no longer are in effect due to all star selections etc. But maybe I’m reading your proposal wrong?
I can see how that was unclear, what I am suggesting isn't going away from your extension model, but just adding a clause of automatic salary raise to the extension contracts being signed if they make the all-star team during their rookie contracts. The automatic salary raise would take effect during the extension years. Using your example of Bagley:
Let's say Magic gives Bags a three year extension, he'll be getting paid $113 the next six years unless he makes the all-star game during his rookie contract.
Example 1:
Bags becomes an all-star in his final year of his rookie contract 2022, Magic then have until the next free agency period (2023) to clear enough cap to pay him $300 for the 2023-2024 and 2024-2025 season. If Magic are unable to pay his automatic salary raise he becomes a free agent in 2023.
Example 2:
Bags never makes the all-star team or makes the all-star team in his extension years, he'll still be only getting paid $113 by the Magic.
Second issue: Having players salaries change won't be an issue for 99% of the players, in real life only KAT, Simmons, Embiid, Giannis, D'angelo Russell and Porzingis would be eligible to get paid $300 and $350 since they made an all-NBA or all-star team during their rookie contracts. This would make sure players who deserve to get paid get paid.
With that Bags example would his salary then be locked in at a minimum of 300k, and no team could sign him for less even if nobody had space or wanted to pay that much? It seems like teams would possibly be punished for drafting smart/getting lucky in the lotto, losing the player, and then other teams profiting as a result.
His salary wouldn't be locked in at a minimum of $300, however a young player who made the all-NBA or all-star team during his first four years in the league is bound to get $250+ on the open market. KAT, Simmons, Embiid, Giannis and Porzinigis all make $400+.
Teams who draft well/get lucky still get to keep all-NBA talent for at least five years super cheap, and they have an entire year to clear salary cap to pay him his raise.
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Smash3 wrote:King of Canada wrote:Smash3 wrote:
I can see how that was unclear, what I am suggesting isn't going away from your extension model, but just adding a clause of automatic salary raise to the extension contracts being signed if they make the all-star team during their rookie contracts. The automatic salary raise would take effect during the extension years. Using your example of Bagley:
Let's say Magic gives Bags a three year extension, he'll be getting paid $113 the next six years unless he makes the all-star game during his rookie contract.
Example 1:
Bags becomes an all-star in his final year of his rookie contract 2022, Magic then have until the next free agency period (2023) to clear enough cap to pay him $300 for the 2023-2024 and 2024-2025 season. If Magic are unable to pay his automatic salary raise he becomes a free agent in 2023.
Example 2:
Bags never makes the all-star team or makes the all-star team in his extension years, he'll still be only getting paid $113 by the Magic.
Second issue: Having players salaries change won't be an issue for 99% of the players, in real life only KAT, Simmons, Embiid, Giannis, D'angelo Russell and Porzingis would be eligible to get paid $300 and $350 since they made an all-NBA or all-star team during their rookie contracts. This would make sure players who deserve to get paid get paid.
With that Bags example would his salary then be locked in at a minimum of 300k, and no team could sign him for less even if nobody had space or wanted to pay that much? It seems like teams would possibly be punished for drafting smart/getting lucky in the lotto, losing the player, and then other teams profiting as a result.
His salary wouldn't be locked in at a minimum of $300, however a young player who made the all-NBA or all-star team during his first four years in the league is bound to get $250+ on the open market. KAT, Simmons, Embiid, Giannis and Porzinigis all make $400+.
Teams who draft well/get lucky still get to keep all-NBA talent for at least five years super cheap, and they have an entire year to clear salary cap to pay him his raise.
So your jump wouldn’t take place until after the rookie contract and not the year after they make an all star?
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King of Canada wrote:Smash3 wrote:King of Canada wrote:
With that Bags example would his salary then be locked in at a minimum of 300k, and no team could sign him for less even if nobody had space or wanted to pay that much? It seems like teams would possibly be punished for drafting smart/getting lucky in the lotto, losing the player, and then other teams profiting as a result.
His salary wouldn't be locked in at a minimum of $300, however a young player who made the all-NBA or all-star team during his first four years in the league is bound to get $250+ on the open market. KAT, Simmons, Embiid, Giannis and Porzinigis all make $400+.
Teams who draft well/get lucky still get to keep all-NBA talent for at least five years super cheap, and they have an entire year to clear salary cap to pay him his raise.
So your jump wouldn’t take place until after the rookie contract and not the year after they make an all star?
Yeah regardless of when the player makes the all-star game the jump wouldn't take place until after the rookie contract.
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Would it be making the SIM allstar and all NBA team or real world? I only say this someone could low ball a players minutes in the SIM if they know they are not going to be contending to make sure they dont qualify for allstar or all NBA team..Smash3 wrote:King of Canada wrote:Smash3 wrote:
His salary wouldn't be locked in at a minimum of $300, however a young player who made the all-NBA or all-star team during his first four years in the league is bound to get $250+ on the open market. KAT, Simmons, Embiid, Giannis and Porzinigis all make $400+.
Teams who draft well/get lucky still get to keep all-NBA talent for at least five years super cheap, and they have an entire year to clear salary cap to pay him his raise.
So your jump wouldn’t take place until after the rookie contract and not the year after they make an all star?
Yeah regardless of when the player makes the all-star game the jump wouldn't take place until after the rookie contract.
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bringbackhoffa wrote:Would it be making the SIM allstar and all NBA team or real world? I only say this someone could low ball a players minutes in the SIM if they know they are not going to be contending to make sure they dont qualify for allstar or all NBA team..Smash3 wrote:King of Canada wrote:
So your jump wouldn’t take place until after the rookie contract and not the year after they make an all star?
Yeah regardless of when the player makes the all-star game the jump wouldn't take place until after the rookie contract.
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F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
RIP mags
F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
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Listening to offers on pretty much everyone other than siakam
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Smash3 wrote:bishnykfan wrote:Smash3 wrote:
If a team does not have the salary cap room to pay the salary raise he is eligible for as a result of making the All-NBA or all-star team; the player will become a free agent the next season. The team will keep the player for an additional year after the player is eligible for a raise, but must clear cap space for him by the following free agency period or he’ll be a free agent.
So every player signing the extension contracts have clauses in their contracts making them eligible for salary raises being equal to 30% or 35% of the cap space. If the team can't pay the player which they have an entire year to make room to pay him, the contract is void and he becomes a free agent.
Couple issues that I can foresee with this, and maybe I’m not reading your proposal correctly so let me know if I have it wrong.
First, making extensions 30-35% of the cap will basically eliminate extensions IMO. Not one team in the league can offer an extension this year because no one has $300-$350 in cap space (I believe this is true, I’m at work and didn’t go through every team). So basically, if you draft well, draft an all star, you would need to gut a big portion of your team in order to sign your drafted all star to an extension. IMO, this model won’t work like it does in the NBA because we have a hard cap that teams can’t go over to resign or extend their own player.
Second issue, and this is where I was confused. I don’t want players salaries changing year to year. It sounds like you want an extension to automatically kick in if a player reaches a certain level? Or have a player become a free agent if he reaches a new level during his contract and the team can’t afford the cost of the new deal? I think this is pretty much a logistical nightmare for me to try and keep track of which players are due raises and which extensions no longer are in effect due to all star selections etc. But maybe I’m reading your proposal wrong?
I can see how that was unclear, what I am suggesting isn't going away from your extension model, but just adding a clause of automatic salary raise to the extension contracts being signed if they make the all-star team during their rookie contracts. The automatic salary raise would take effect during the extension years. Using your example of Bagley:
Let's say Magic gives Bags a three year extension, he'll be getting paid $113 the next six years unless he makes the all-star game during his rookie contract.
Example 1:
Bags becomes an all-star in his final year of his rookie contract 2022, Magic then have until the next free agency period (2023) to clear enough cap to pay him $300 for the 2023-2024 and 2024-2025 season. If Magic are unable to pay his automatic salary raise he becomes a free agent in 2023.
Example 2:
Bags never makes the all-star team or makes the all-star team in his extension years, he'll still be only getting paid $113 by the Magic.
Second issue: Having players salaries change won't be an issue for 99% of the players, in real life only KAT, Simmons, Embiid, Giannis, D'angelo Russell and Porzingis would be eligible to get paid $300 and $350 since they made an all-NBA or all-star team during their rookie contracts. This would make sure players who deserve to get paid get paid.
I understand where you are coming from but I think that this would be exceptionally hard for me to keep track of. You have six players who made an all-star team during their rookie contracts but I counted 32 active players who have done that and another 9 who made an all-star game in their fifth year. For the most part, these are the best of the best players in the league. You have to figure that trend will continue with players drafted in our college drafts too. Basically on average 2-3 players each draft will make an all star team during their rookie contract. I don't know if it's fair to make a team pay for those players twice (once with the original extension and then again because of the all star bonus). I think that if a team has the vision to draft a player and then the foresight and cap room necessary to lock him up to an extension, they should not be punished by having to gut their roster in order to keep this player just because he became an all star.
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King of Canada wrote:bringbackhoffa wrote:King of Canada wrote:
With that Bags example would his salary then be locked in at a minimum of 300k, and no team could sign him for less even if nobody had space or wanted to pay that much? It seems like teams would possibly be punished for drafting smart/getting lucky in the lotto, losing the player, and then other teams profiting as a result.
i wouldnt say it would have to be locked in, as the current GM would have the opportunity to bid on him during free agency. This would just make sure that the player gets top dollar whether it be $300 or more/less. A GM could always gamble and not sign the player to an extension thinking they could re-sign them for less in the off-season by monitoring what other teams have for cap-space. fyi i like to gamble..
That seems like nonsense
Basically Smash3 and hoffa already plotting on stealing from your Big 4
They are pretending to advocate for a breakout young player's best interest when the reality is they hope to benefit from a GM not being able to afford to keep all it's young affordable talent.

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