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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#481 » by Bum Adebayo » Wed May 15, 2019 11:12 am

ET Da Gawd wrote:Get okafor back so we have actually post scoring, Joel, Amir and Monroe are trash down low lmao, the team is in a bad way, we were supposed to be a post up kickout team and now we just chuck 3s and pray for guards lmao...this wasn’t sams vision...Simmons needs to go, embiid needs to work way harder, bench is trash, we didn’t use jimmy right at all...getting jah back is one step, but there’s a lot to fix..shoulda fired brown...once again his stupid handoff ball is easier to predict than a HS offense


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Finally someone gets it,we would be so much better with Okafor. We should also get rid of Redick and sign Carmelo Anthony, he can get buckets from midrange, doesn't need to be hot from three. I would love to see more post play and midrange shots and less 3pt spamming for sure.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#482 » by Kolkmania » Wed May 15, 2019 12:30 pm

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ET Da Gawd wrote:Get okafor back so we have actually post scoring, Joel, Amir and Monroe are trash down low lmao, the team is in a bad way, we were supposed to be a post up kickout team and now we just chuck 3s and pray for guards lmao...this wasn’t sams vision...Simmons needs to go, embiid needs to work way harder, bench is trash, we didn’t use jimmy right at all...getting jah back is one step, but there’s a lot to fix..shoulda fired brown...once again his stupid handoff ball is easier to predict than a HS offense


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Finally someone gets it,we would be so much better with Okafor. We should also get rid of Redick and sign Carmelo Anthony, he can get buckets from midrange, doesn't need to be hot from three. I would love to see more post play and midrange shots and less 3pt spamming for sure.


I honestly can't tell if you guys are serious. :lol:
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#483 » by Kobblehead » Wed May 15, 2019 12:37 pm

Jah was really good this year, actually.

But it's pointless for the Sixers to sign a big that can't play the 4.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#484 » by mithrandir17 » Wed May 15, 2019 12:38 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:
ET Da Gawd wrote:Get okafor back so we have actually post scoring, Joel, Amir and Monroe are trash down low lmao, the team is in a bad way, we were supposed to be a post up kickout team and now we just chuck 3s and pray for guards lmao...this wasn’t sams vision...Simmons needs to go, embiid needs to work way harder, bench is trash, we didn’t use jimmy right at all...getting jah back is one step, but there’s a lot to fix..shoulda fired brown...once again his stupid handoff ball is easier to predict than a HS offense


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Finally someone gets it,we would be so much better with Okafor. We should also get rid of Redick and sign Carmelo Anthony, he can get buckets from midrange, doesn't need to be hot from three. I would love to see more post play and midrange shots and less 3pt spamming for sure.

Why stop there, get Turner back. Atleast he shoots open threes when he is wide open even if the percentages is low. Unlike Ben who doesn't shoot at all.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#485 » by Bum Adebayo » Wed May 15, 2019 1:30 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Jah was really good this year, actually.

But it's pointless for the Sixers to sign a big that can't play the 4.


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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#486 » by Mik317 » Wed May 15, 2019 3:01 pm

Lets get stupid.

Lets say that AD either stays or goes to Boston or NY. And the Lakers offer the Davis deal for Simmons (or something close to it) So something like Ball, Ingram and 4 (or Kuzma and Hart or some verison of those guys). Do you do it?
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#487 » by SixthStreet » Wed May 15, 2019 3:10 pm

Nah, I wouldn't. Is Garland or Culver really good enough to pull the trigger? I have major doubts on Garland and Culver may be a high floor low star potential guy. If Barrett drops to 4 then lets talk.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#488 » by XDevilBoiX » Wed May 15, 2019 3:22 pm

Mik317 wrote:Lets get stupid.

Lets say that AD either stays or goes to Boston or NY. And the Lakers offer the Davis deal for Simmons (or something close to it) So something like Ball, Ingram and 4 (or Kuzma and Hart or some verison of those guys). Do you do it?

I posted in the fantasy thread. If Washington is interested in that package for Beal then I would do it.

Bring back Jimmy and JJ as 6th man, offer Scott a chance to be a starting pf to bring his value up for next years FA. We would need a pg, offer KCP or someone similar a chance just like Scott. Gives Shake a year to learn and be the starting pg next year.

Starting lineup

Embiid
Scott/Bolden
Jimmy
Beal
KCP/someone who can play defense and somewhat shoot.

Fill bench with ring chasers.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#489 » by BullyKing » Wed May 15, 2019 3:33 pm

XDevilBoiX wrote:
Mik317 wrote:Lets get stupid.

Lets say that AD either stays or goes to Boston or NY. And the Lakers offer the Davis deal for Simmons (or something close to it) So something like Ball, Ingram and 4 (or Kuzma and Hart or some verison of those guys). Do you do it?

I posted in the fantasy thread. If Washington is interested in that package for Beal then I would do it.

Bring back Jimmy and JJ as 6th man, offer Scott a chance to be a starting pf to bring his value up for next years FA. We would need a pg, offer KCP or someone similar a chance just like Scott. Gives Shake a year to learn and be the starting pg next year.

Starting lineup

Embiid
Scott/Bolden
Jimmy
Beal
KCP/someone who can play defense and somewhat shoot.

Fill bench with ring chasers.


There's absolutely no way to make that work financially
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#490 » by kriss73 » Wed May 15, 2019 5:06 pm

Simple question: it seems like we should operate as an over the cap team this summer.

Technically, at draft night, could we trade J.Simmons (6 M, only 1M guaranteed) and pick #24 for a "6M veteran player on a longer contract" and still be able to sign Butler/Harris/Scott/JJ with Bird rights?
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Post#491 » by 76ciology » Wed May 15, 2019 5:36 pm

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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#492 » by youngcrev » Wed May 15, 2019 6:19 pm

BullyKing wrote:
XDevilBoiX wrote:
Mik317 wrote:Lets get stupid.

Lets say that AD either stays or goes to Boston or NY. And the Lakers offer the Davis deal for Simmons (or something close to it) So something like Ball, Ingram and 4 (or Kuzma and Hart or some verison of those guys). Do you do it?

I posted in the fantasy thread. If Washington is interested in that package for Beal then I would do it.

Bring back Jimmy and JJ as 6th man, offer Scott a chance to be a starting pf to bring his value up for next years FA. We would need a pg, offer KCP or someone similar a chance just like Scott. Gives Shake a year to learn and be the starting pg next year.

Starting lineup

Embiid
Scott/Bolden
Jimmy
Beal
KCP/someone who can play defense and somewhat shoot.

Fill bench with ring chasers.


There's absolutely no way to make that work financially


Even if there was... Bradley Beal over Simmons and Harris????
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#493 » by BullyKing » Wed May 15, 2019 6:59 pm

youngcrev wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
XDevilBoiX wrote:I posted in the fantasy thread. If Washington is interested in that package for Beal then I would do it.

Bring back Jimmy and JJ as 6th man, offer Scott a chance to be a starting pf to bring his value up for next years FA. We would need a pg, offer KCP or someone similar a chance just like Scott. Gives Shake a year to learn and be the starting pg next year.

Starting lineup

Embiid
Scott/Bolden
Jimmy
Beal
KCP/someone who can play defense and somewhat shoot.

Fill bench with ring chasers.


There's absolutely no way to make that work financially


Even if there was... Bradley Beal over Simmons and Harris????


It just seemed easier to explain that it was not possible. But as a general rule, everyone thinking about trades for Ben Simmons should factor in the corollary costs of trading him for a high salary player. In other words, if you're going to propose Ben Simmons for X, you should be thinking of it as Ben Simmons Tobias Harris, JJ Redick, Mike Scott, and James Ennis for X. Or if those players are not your cup of tea, Ben Simmons and whatever 28 million in cap space can get you for X.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#494 » by brannigan73 » Wed May 15, 2019 7:35 pm

youngcrev wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
XDevilBoiX wrote:I posted in the fantasy thread. If Washington is interested in that package for Beal then I would do it.

Bring back Jimmy and JJ as 6th man, offer Scott a chance to be a starting pf to bring his value up for next years FA. We would need a pg, offer KCP or someone similar a chance just like Scott. Gives Shake a year to learn and be the starting pg next year.

Starting lineup

Embiid
Scott/Bolden
Jimmy
Beal
KCP/someone who can play defense and somewhat shoot.

Fill bench with ring chasers.


There's absolutely no way to make that work financially


Even if there was... Bradley Beal over Simmons and Harris????



Bradley Beal is over-rated imo. He is medicore on defense and not nearly as good on offense as people think. Simmons and Harris both had higher RPMs (Real Plus Minus) this past season. Im not saying thats a perfect stat but that was surprising to me when I saw that. You would get a lot worse with that kind of swap and if Ben blew up elsewhere you would look like a fool. It would have to be somethng like Ben for Anthony Davis to get me to take the risk that a 22 year old that even with his flaws is probably top 20-30 in the league wont get a lot better.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#495 » by Kobblehead » Wed May 15, 2019 7:55 pm

RPM has no value, to me.

Go look at Bradley Beal in the playoffs and compare that to Ben Simmons in the playoffs and then tell me who is the better player.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#496 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed May 15, 2019 8:09 pm

In 22 playoff games, Simmons has a BPM of 4.3, 58.1% TS, 110 ORTG, and 105 DRTG.

In 40 playoff games, Beal has a BPM of 2.8, 54.7% TS, 110 ORTG, and 108 DRTG.

Beal is and always has been a tad overrated. His game is sexy, but he's not as impactful as people perceive.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#497 » by FireMorey » Wed May 15, 2019 8:12 pm

How are you evaluating "impact"?
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#498 » by Kobblehead » Wed May 15, 2019 8:31 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:In 22 playoff games, Simmons has a BPM of 4.3, 58.1% TS, 110 ORTG, and 105 DRTG.

In 40 playoff games, Beal has a BPM of 2.8, 54.7% TS, 110 ORTG, and 108 DRTG.

Beal is and always has been a tad overrated. His game is sexy, but he's not as impactful as people perceive.

But what about when we look at things that actually matter and aren't plus/minus stats or 5-man unit team-oriented metrics?

Bradley Beal: 22.7 ppg, 36% from three, 82% from the line in 40 games
Ben Simmons: 15 ppg, 0% from three, 65% from the line in 22 games

Bradley Beal is a difference-making, star player. Ben Simmons is a role-playing, glue guy.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#499 » by Kobblehead » Wed May 15, 2019 8:37 pm

You can look at convoluted metrics that tell you Draymond Green is a more impactful and better player than C.J. McCollum, but who can actually takeover a game and ball out and who is a mere ancillary cog in a machine?
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#500 » by youngcrev » Wed May 15, 2019 9:03 pm

Kobblehead wrote:You can look at convoluted metrics that tell you Draymond Green is a more impactful and better player than C.J. McCollum, but who can actually takeover a game and ball out and who is a mere ancillary cog in a machine?


Depends on the build of your roster. Elite defensive tend to be pretty impactful though...

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