Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[BBALLER4FR]

If we haven't come to the point of realizing tanking no longer works, then we deserve another 2 decades of turmoil. Even if Durant/Kyrie have change of hearts and we are a bad team next year, our '20 pick next year means nothing when teams like LAL, Mem, and Pels can just dart 6/7 spots up the board. And if we get Durant and Kyrie but decide against getting AD because we don't want to give up Barrett and next years pick (not the Dallas picks) then, again, you deserve this broken franchise. The only decision we'd need to make, assuming both KD and Kyrie are on board, is do we package Mitch in an AD trade or the Mavs pick(s). We'd be a playoff team so our pick means nothing. Do we put our faith in Mitchell Robinson OR KP bringing about the immediate demise of the Mavericks franchise? That's our choices this offseason.

I am surprised that people on this board are unwilling to give up Mitch for AD. wow, just wow. If we had a chance to get KD, Ki and AD while giving up No 3, 2 Dallas picks, Knox, DSJ, Frank and Mitch, we should be ecstatic.

The only issue I have with this is I would give up Mitch OR the Mavs pick(s), NOT both. We have to maintain some sense of dignity and keep something. Our entire youth, Barrett, next years 1st (we'll be playoff bound anyway) and ONE OF Mitch or Mavs pick(s). I don't want to keep the Knicks '20 pick because it becomes a late rounder and I'd prefer AD, and I'd prefer to keep Mitch than go college watching with the Mavs pick only to watch the Orlando Magic or Charlotte Hornets zoom up the board in some likely even Dallas falters and hands over a top 10 pick. Some people live for that type of offseason drama, Not me.

[Luv those Knicks]

Ja might become a very nice player but I think it takes him a year or two to adjust to the NBA. Barrett is closer to being useful (and I know, he's 10 months younger, still . . . I think Ja needs more time to adapt. Don't know who they sign as free agents but I kind of hope they keep the pick rather than trade it for another failed attempt to compete. Whatever they do, I'm happy they landed in the top 3.

Feel free to disagree, but that's my 2 cents.

[E-Balla]

RJ, KD, and Kyrie will never win ****. KD is such a ballhog he ruins the chemistry in Golden State, Kyrie is such a ball hog he ruins the chemistry in Boston, RJ will be the biggest ballhog to come out the top 3 of the draft in probably a decade plus (shout out OJ Mayo).

The real issue (because I never thought we'd keep our pick with AD out there) is the Pels getting the first pick. We had a chance at AD without giving up Mitch prior to them getting the #1 pick, now there's zero chance.

[BBALLER4FR]

RJ, KD, and Kyrie will never win ****. KD is such a ballhog he ruins the chemistry in Golden State, Kyrie is such a ball hog he ruins the chemistry in Boston, RJ will be the biggest ballhog to come out the top 3 of the draft in probably a decade plus (shout out OJ Mayo).

The real issue (because I never thought we'd keep our pick with AD out there) is the Pels getting the first pick. We had a chance at AD without giving up Mitch prior to them getting the #1 pick, now there's zero chance.

Oh there's still a chance. Zion is their new franchise player and he didn't seem thrilled to be there. Pels may want to look into getting his buddy Barrett there "by any means necessary" to keep him smiling. "By any means necessary" could eventually become a scenario where getting Mitch no longer becomes the sticking point. Not much hope, but there's hope.

[Luv those Knicks]

RJ, KD, and Kyrie will never win ****. KD is such a ballhog he ruins the chemistry in Golden State, Kyrie is such a ball hog he ruins the chemistry in Boston, RJ will be the biggest ballhog to come out the top 3 of the draft in probably a decade plus (shout out OJ Mayo).

The real issue (because I never thought we'd keep our pick with AD out there) is the Pels getting the first pick. We had a chance at AD without giving up Mitch prior to them getting the #1 pick, now there's zero chance.

First things first. See who they can sign, then decide what to do with the pick, or maybe work them concurrently but you don't move the pick first.

You make a good point about too many scorers on the same team. Not a great mix. I like AD, as long as the cost isn't too high. There's probably going to be a bidding war for him.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Shouldn’t have put all your eggs in a 14% basket.

What was the alternative?

86%

So....we were supposed to get excited over picks 2-5? Nah b. Zion or bust was the only thing to look forward to. I admit...I need to see more of RJ because...what I did see was not worth tanking or getting excited about.

[jermsknicks]

Everyone is just trying to make themselves feel better we missed out on Zion...truth is we deep down know zion is gonna be a star..it stings we deserved that #1 pick.. honestly I rather them try with the youth movement and see what happens again in next yrs draft.

Nothing is guaranteed. It's a guards game and those that create and hit the 3, dominate the league! - I am more upset that we might've wasted a pick on the French Prince.

[Juco24]

Patience is STILL important... especially for those wanting to give up a nice starting 5 for one player!! SMH... Knox, RJ, Mitch, DSJ, Frank + 2 picks is straight Isiah crazy! In 2 years (Maybe less)... Mitch, Knox, DSJ and RJ are going to be a problem QUOTE ME NOW - whether they're on the Knicks or not!

Don't get me wrong I want the Big 3 of KD, AD, KI as much as anyone but I be damned if I'm willing to rush and overpay. Quick fixes is what got us into this mess in the beginning!

[jermsknicks]

What was the alternative?

86%

So....we were supposed to get excited over picks 2-5? Nah b. Zion or bust was the only thing to look forward to. I admit...I need to see more of RJ because...what I did see was not worth tanking or getting excited about.

Picking up another asset was worth the tank. We developed a few young guys and now have a lot if cap space. This was the best idea we have had in years and we finally did something right.

Barrett has the offensive skills to be a solid scorer and playmaker in the league...Fitz will hopefully get him to play defense.

[Knicksfan20]

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[SelbyCobra]

Whatever eventually happens, the Knicks will almost certainly make the pick at #3 as it's the way to allow most flexibility with salaries when FA hits on June 30th. If there's a deal then it will happen 30 days after the draft, like the Love/Wiggins trade.

But the Knicks will almost certainly make the pick at 3 even if they have intentions of moving the player, whether it's Barrett, Morant, Garland, Culver, or whomever.

[Marty McFly]

I’d be nice to stick with the youth movement in case Durant and kawhi stay put, but I don’t know that the FO has the patience for it.

We have all our picks and this team as currently constituted is surely not going to win a lot of ball games.

[alphad0gz]

I actually don't know what people see in Barrett - please explain

What I see is a old school small forward in a guard sized body, who can't shoot reliably or even make his free throws, who's a bit rigid and lacking athletically, who can only use his left hand, and who doesn't step up in big moments

Canadian team RJ like Olympic Melo is a thing.
He’s dominated everywhere and every level.
He won’t be afraid of the big lights.
That’s gonna go far if he’s the pick for us.
He’s not some untalented low ceiling meathead like people make him out to be. He’s not Wiggins or Rudy Gay.

How is shooting 30% from 3 in college on a stacked team dominating? Do you mean he has chucked at every level? 67% from the line? He's mediocre at best. Dump this pick with a **** quickness.

Guy averaged almost 23/8/4 for the best team in the best conference. He was the consensus top pick until Morant and Zion blew up. He would be the top pick in almost any draft. He is very athletic (as indicated by his 41" vert), he's unselfish and has an high IQ, plus his head is screwed on right. This will not be a major step down. Zion has much more hype because of his game style.

[blumatic]

Zion sealed his own fate when he said "I think this is RJ's team."

Let's go RJ.

[BBALLER4FR]

Zion sealed his own fate when he said "I think this is RJ's team."

Let's go RJ.

"Hey RJ! You wanna play for the New York Nyicks?!"

He called it.... and I haven't forgotten that dumb Urkel voice either.

[alphad0gz]

If RJ can't develop defense/jumper, he's not gonna do much if KD is really coming here. He's gonna feel like Terry Rozier on a team with Kyrie Irving.

They play different positions....

[alphad0gz]

DeAndre Hunter is a better player than Barrett, if the Knicks are going wing again.

You're out there...I mean..WAY out there. Barrett will be an allstar and hunter is a role player. Jesus, man...

[Gravy]

I'm slowly getting more hype for the 3rd pick. You could only focus on the flaws of any player we select at #3, you can also say Zion is undersized, can't shoot, couldn't get his team into the final four, might not translate to the NBA. Finding a franchise player in the draft is incredibly hard. There are no guarantees for any of these kids, just hope they can at least be a starter on a good team.

[alphad0gz]

He can't **** shoot. 30% from college 3 while Zion drew all the defense. He's trash from the free throw line also. Why the hell would you draft a shooting guard that sucks at shooting? See Timmy for reference.

Ja Morant also shot 30% from 3 his freshman year.

So what ? Morant will be trash also, he's 160 lbs. But at least Ja, regardless of the CYO level competition can make a free throw. He shot 81%. Free throw shooting is a huge indicator for being able to make an NBA 3.

Not true at all. Plenty of NBA guys hit FTs but can't hit 3s. Plenty of guys are so-so FT shooters but hit 3s. Just depends. There is no real rule there.

[GONYK]

Canadian team RJ like Olympic Melo is a thing.
He’s dominated everywhere and every level.
He won’t be afraid of the big lights.
That’s gonna go far if he’s the pick for us.
He’s not some untalented low ceiling meathead like people make him out to be. He’s not Wiggins or Rudy Gay.

How is shooting 30% from 3 in college on a stacked team dominating? Do you mean he has chucked at every level? 67% from the line? He's mediocre at best. Dump this pick with a **** quickness.

Guy averaged almost 23/8/4 for the best team in the best conference. He was the consensus top pick until Morant and Zion blew up. He would be the top pick in almost any draft. He is very athletic (as indicated by his 41" vert), he's unselfish and has an high IQ, plus his head is screwed on right. This will not be a major step down. Zion has much more hype because of his game style.

On high volume, low efficiency, and tendency chuck that betrays the notion of a very high IQ. He's also not an elite athlete in the halfcourt and relied more on strength at the college level.

The kid has tools for sure and a ton of craftiness, but there are some real concerns there.

Is he a top 5 pick in every draft? Probably, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a layup pick.