Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[malik959]

I'm happy, Not once have I ever felt that the #1 pick is our! Always felt that we would be picking #2 or #3 with #5 being our worst situation. I'm not the gambling type so winning the Lotto has never been in my system so I don't try. But I've always felt that RJ would translate in the NBA better than Zion due to skill set. Heck even Coach K relied on RJ more than he did Zion and put the ball in his hands. Zion is the go with the flow, score off of put backs and must use his athleticism 100% of the time to score while RJ doesn't.

Now in no way am I saying that RJ is the better prospect because due to the higher athleticism Zion can be that Lebron type of player while RJ is more in the form of a D.Wade type, is that a bad thing? Hell no I'll take that all day! RJ needs needs needs to work on his shots (selections, curls, catch and shoot), but every prospect has skill sets they need to work on. To me RJ fits more of a need than any prospect in this draft and can possibly come out competing on the first day.

[malik959]

If we haven't come to the point of realizing tanking no longer works, then we deserve another 2 decades of turmoil. Even if Durant/Kyrie have change of hearts and we are a bad team next year, our '20 pick next year means nothing when teams like LAL, Mem, and Pels can just dart 6/7 spots up the board. And if we get Durant and Kyrie but decide against getting AD because we don't want to give up Barrett and next years pick (not the Dallas picks) then, again, you deserve this broken franchise. The only decision we'd need to make, assuming both KD and Kyrie are on board, is do we package Mitch in an AD trade or the Mavs pick(s). We'd be a playoff team so our pick means nothing. Do we put our faith in Mitchell Robinson OR KP bringing about the immediate demise of the Mavericks franchise? That's our choices this offseason.

I am surprised that people on this board are unwilling to give up Mitch for AD. wow, just wow. If we had a chance to get KD, Ki and AD while giving up No 3, 2 Dallas picks, Knox, DSJ, Frank and Mitch, we should be ecstatic.

That's way too much to give up for 1 player its not worth it and expectation would be if that trade did happen they would have to get a championship there first year kd , kyrie, and ad.

The problem is these players are still young and can become great players or even above average players. Players take time to get it, not every all star starts out an all star day one. They take time to improve. Knox can become a 20/7rb player, DSJ 18/7as, Mitch 18/12 so no I'm not willing to just give that up for a player that maybe a one year rental. There are some teams out there that are about to learn that it's hard to keep these one year rental stars (Philly, Toronto, Dallas) where they don't know if they're really going to stay yet they traded their fort to get them on a hunch that they will stay. I'm not willing to take that gamble.

[prophet_of_rage]

How is shooting 30% from 3 in college on a stacked team dominating? Do you mean he has chucked at every level? 67% from the line? He's mediocre at best. Dump this pick with a **** quickness.

Guy averaged almost 23/8/4 for the best team in the best conference. He was the consensus top pick until Morant and Zion blew up. He would be the top pick in almost any draft. He is very athletic (as indicated by his 41" vert), he's unselfish and has an high IQ, plus his head is screwed on right. This will not be a major step down. Zion has much more hype because of his game style.

On high volume, low efficiency, and tendency chuck that betrays the notion of a very high IQ. He's also not an elite athlete in the halfcourt and relied more on strength at the college level.

The kid has tools for sure and a ton of craftiness, but there are some real concerns there.

Is he a top 5 pick in every draft? Probably, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a layup pick.

All of this sounds like a description of Kobe Bryant.

[Billy Goat]

DeAndre Hunter is a better player than Barrett, if the Knicks are going wing again.

You're out there...I mean..WAY out there. Barrett will be an allstar and hunter is a role player. Jesus, man...

Based on what? The Duke hype clouds people man. Barrett cant shoot. The Knicks have been built around players who shoot too much and cant shoot (Hardaway, Melo, Knox etc etc etc). These guys are impossbile to win with if they're commanding the lions share of the shots.

[E-Balla]

How is shooting 30% from 3 in college on a stacked team dominating? Do you mean he has chucked at every level? 67% from the line? He's mediocre at best. Dump this pick with a **** quickness.

Guy averaged almost 23/8/4 for the best team in the best conference. He was the consensus top pick until Morant and Zion blew up. He would be the top pick in almost any draft. He is very athletic (as indicated by his 41" vert), he's unselfish and has an high IQ, plus his head is screwed on right. This will not be a major step down. Zion has much more hype because of his game style.

On high volume, low efficiency, and tendency chuck that betrays the notion of a very high IQ. He's also not an elite athlete in the halfcourt and relied more on strength at the college level.

The kid has tools for sure and a ton of craftiness, but there are some real concerns there.

Is he a top 5 pick in every draft? Probably, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a layup pick.

He's JR Smith (more talented overall though). Great player if he can stop being an idiot on the court (JR is also an idiot off the court too though). RJ could easily become a star, or fall out the young hopeful category pretty quickly.

[HarthorneWingo]

Because ESPN & other media outlets are calling Ja transcendent right behind Zion & hardly mentioning RJ there. You add in the fact that the Grizzlies almost traded Conley at the deadline and pairing an electric PG with Jaren Jackson makes sense.

Also, Knicks set up a meeting with RJ for tomorrow.
People are following the tea leaves

Plus, Barrett played like crap in the Tournament. Unlike Hunter who had a solid tourney.

RJ averaged 20.3 8 and 6 in the tournament, it’s solid numbers. Hunter is 2 years older and averaged 15.8 5.3 and 1.2. I didn’t think Hunter played well at all up until the championship game where to his credit he rose to the occasion.

He shot 42% FGs for the Tournament (he was good in the first two, bad in the final two). Hunter shot 48% FGs, 38% from 3. I think he had one stinker in the bunch.

I agree that Barrett is more of a scorer. He's a 2/3. Hunter's a 3/4. I like his body for the NBA and believe he'll be a better defensive player and while he doesn't have the upside that Barrett may have, I believe that Hunter can contribute right away which will be important if we're signing two max free agents and we're looking to win now.

[Juggynaut]

One positive I really like about RJ is that he loves basketball. You can tell he wants to be good and y he will improve as he gets older. Some of u act like he's a finish product at 18 years old.

I'm taking my chances with RJ or Ja.

[jermsknicks]

Canadian team RJ like Olympic Melo is a thing.
He’s dominated everywhere and every level.
He won’t be afraid of the big lights.
That’s gonna go far if he’s the pick for us.
He’s not some untalented low ceiling meathead like people make him out to be. He’s not Wiggins or Rudy Gay.

How is shooting 30% from 3 in college on a stacked team dominating? Do you mean he has chucked at every level? 67% from the line? He's mediocre at best. Dump this pick with a **** quickness.

Guy averaged almost 23/8/4 for the best team in the best conference. He was the consensus top pick until Morant and Zion blew up. He would be the top pick in almost any draft. He is very athletic (as indicated by his 41" vert), he's unselfish and has an high IQ, plus his head is screwed on right. This will not be a major step down. Zion has much more hype because of his game style.

I am surprised I was the first to like your post. If KD and Kyrie weren't in site, I think Knick fans would be a little more excited about Barrett. Barrett at least seems to have the right mindset where he will work on his game and wants to dominate.
That Duke team wasn't just fun to watch because of Zion, Barrett was right there throwing the lobs, running the breaks right alongside Zion.

Not sure Barrett will stay or ever be a Knick, but he put up some great numbers, helped win a lot of games and some aspects of his game may come easier for him in the NBA.

[jermsknicks]

Guy averaged almost 23/8/4 for the best team in the best conference. He was the consensus top pick until Morant and Zion blew up. He would be the top pick in almost any draft. He is very athletic (as indicated by his 41" vert), he's unselfish and has an high IQ, plus his head is screwed on right. This will not be a major step down. Zion has much more hype because of his game style.

On high volume, low efficiency, and tendency chuck that betrays the notion of a very high IQ. He's also not an elite athlete in the halfcourt and relied more on strength at the college level.

The kid has tools for sure and a ton of craftiness, but there are some real concerns there.

Is he a top 5 pick in every draft? Probably, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a layup pick.

All of this sounds like a description of Kobe Bryant.

Barrett thinks he is the second coming of Mamba. I heard him reference bringing the Mamba out or something along the lines after a game.

That mentality can be dangerous, but I also believe he was a willing passer.

[jermsknicks]

One positive I really like about RJ is that he loves basketball. You can tell he wants to be good and y he will improve as he gets older. Some of u act like he's a finish product at 18 years old.

I'm taking my chances with RJ or Ja.

Yes, I sense the same thing. After Duke blew out Kentucky, I was thinking RJ would be better player in the NBA because of his body type compared to Zion.

Don't get me wrong, after the Gonzaga vs Duke game I was all on board for Zion, but for a quick minute it was all about drafting RJ #1.

[Capn'O]

Assuming Zion and Ja are off the board...

Also, Combine starts today. Woot Woot.

[SARGO127]

I would strongly consider trading #3 + Lance Thomas to ATL for #8 + #10 + lottery protected future first

Cap isn’t affected that much.

Then trade Dotson, DSJ to Pistons for #14

8 - Reddish
10 - White
14 - Bol Bol

[BBALLER4FR]

I would strongly consider trading #3 + Lance Thomas to ATL for #8 + #10 + lottery protected future first

Cap isn’t affected that much.

Then trade Dotson, DSJ to Pistons for #14

8 - Reddish
10 - White
14 - Bol Bol

Then tank some more so we can watch lots of College games, evaluate prospects, shout at the TV when teams leapfrog us in this new draft system, trade down for middling drafts prospects...SECOND VERSE - SAME AS THE FIRST!!

[NYKHardKnock]

I want RJ Barrett. Will be a nice fit with KD&KYRIE

Watch on YouTube

[Grinditout]

We wont know who will be coming in free agency, so just draft who you think the BPA is regardless of potential free agents

[NotMyKawhi]

i would just hope the Grizzlies don't take RJ


They have two PGs and lots of bigs, they need wings

[F N 11]

Im convinced people rather tank for a top 3 talent than to actually draft one. Im over it.

[F N 11]

We wont know who will be coming in free agency, so just draft who you think the BPA is regardless of potential free agents

[NYKHardKnock]

i would just hope the Grizzlies don't take RJ


They have two PGs and lots of bigs, they need wings

Memphis would likely deal Conley.

Could we actually package trade like Knox + Frank + DSJr in separate deals to create room. Something like Knox + Frank + 2020 Protected First for Conley. And still be able to sign two max?

Mike Conley
RJ Barrett — Allonzo Trier
Kevin Durant — Damyean Dotson
Tobias Harris
Mitchell Robinson

[Tron Carter]

no garland at the combine kinda sucks. was hoping to watch him.

now I’ll have to rely on team workout leaks. sigh