Antinomy wrote:skones wrote:Antinomy wrote:
Denver has always been competent. Milwaukee was always stuck in purgatory picking in the back half of the lottery besides “lucking into Jabari. Toronto is in a different country but they’ve been able to sustain competence for a over decade despite no top picks. GS has already turned that corner in the mid-2000 they were on the cusp.
Like dude, do you lack reading comprehension? I’m giving you a clear synopsis on their teams history & your arguing with me because of......?
LOL. All of this stuff is RIGHT in front of your face, easily verifiable, and you're just flat out ignoring it and accusing me of "reading comprehension?"
Denver averaged 25 wins a season for 8 years prior to acquiring Carmelo Anthony. Your perception of "competent" given their recent success, Exhibit A.
Milwaukee stuck in purgatory, much like New Orleans, now they're not. Exhibit B.
Toronto hasn't "sustained competence for over a decade." They've been a good solid team for 6 years. Prior to that for 7? Average wins per season 34. I suppose they should have been completely written off because they didn't get the job done with Bosh in town. Exhibit C.
Golden State was not "on the cusp" or "turning a corner in the mid 2000s. 94-12, The Warriors had ONE playoff appearance and that was the "We Believe" 42 win team. Average wins over that timespan? 29. Exhibit D.
New Orleans average wins since drafting Davis. 35.8, but they're incapable of a having a stroke of luck (ie. drafting Zion) and turning it around. k.
Denial of any of these examples because of recency bias is absolutely hilarious. You're not worth discussing with further.
I’m not bothering with you anymore. Your own post proves exactly what I’m saying about them. 35.8 wins per year is abysmal with an ATG on your roster. Not having a single 50 win season with AD on your roster is abysmal. Only having one 50 win season between CO3 & AD is abysmal.
Toronto managed to keep their head above water for years & had to appeal to international players because nobody would sign there.
Denver had prior success in their franchises history & once they got a “star” like Carmelo they’ve sustained their relevance for over 15 years even after they traded him. That is a clear sign of competency.
Warriors under Don Nelson were always a gimmicky team that played super small ball & outscore people. Once they nabbed a player like Curry, they haven’t looked back.
Milwaukee was in purgatory because they were never bad enough to pick high in the lottery & never good enough to win anything. As SOON as Giannis took off they became contenders. NOLA has had THAT kind of guy multiple times.
New Orleans HAD Chris Paul. Were still terrible. Had one 50 win year then fell off. Drafted AD & still hasn’t won 50 games. And now they’re coming full circle AGAIN for another ATG talent.
All of those other franchises were terrible or floating around til they got that ONE guy & now they’re sustaining success. New Orleans is on their THIRD guy & things still aren’t looking up. Some franchises haven’t even had their FIRST guy. That’s what I’m complaining about.
Why is that so difficult for you to comprehend?
This isn't about what they did with AD, this is about what Griffin does moving forward.