GoCeltics123 wrote:
Did the actual draw behind the scenes happen yet?
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yeahM8 wrote:Grooverider wrote:Then he can have it. He will also be leaving a bunch of money on the table. Is Kyrie and KD enough to win a championship? Not sure about that.
Wait grooverider is a Celtics fan? Fabio too?
Big up
Haha
djFan71 wrote:Assuming Knicks are out on AD, but getting Kyrie & KD. Who could you flip #3 and DSJ salary for that's not AD?
#3 and DSJ for Josh Richardson
#3 and DSJ, Knox for Aaron Gordon
#3 and DSJ for..... Tatum/Yabu/Wanamaker
Probably not enough, but if you throw in a DAL pick or 2????
The Aaron Gordon one could work for both sides, I think. They play Barrett/Isaac/Bamba as their frontline of the future and get a DAL pick. The scrubmatch out Fultz and DSJ, lol.
dorkestra wrote:Embiid is embarrassing the whole city of Philadelphia. Wake up you little bitch
The Comedian wrote:Saint Lazarus playing 4D chess right now.
This dude legit has other Celtics fans arguing with him
Saint Lazarus wrote:djFan71 wrote:Assuming Knicks are out on AD, but getting Kyrie & KD. Who could you flip #3 and DSJ salary for that's not AD?
#3 and DSJ for Josh Richardson
#3 and DSJ, Knox for Aaron Gordon
#3 and DSJ for..... Tatum/Yabu/Wanamaker
Probably not enough, but if you throw in a DAL pick or 2????
The Aaron Gordon one could work for both sides, I think. They play Barrett/Isaac/Bamba as their frontline of the future and get a DAL pick. The scrubmatch out Fultz and DSJ, lol.
josh richardson?
djFan71 wrote:Assuming Knicks are out on AD, but getting Kyrie & KD. Who could you flip #3 and DSJ salary for that's not AD?
#3 and DSJ for Josh Richardson
#3 and DSJ, Knox for Aaron Gordon
#3 and DSJ for..... Tatum/Yabu/Wanamaker
Probably not enough, but if you throw in a DAL pick or 2????
The Aaron Gordon one could work for both sides, I think. They play Barrett/Isaac/Bamba as their frontline of the future and get a DAL pick. The scrubmatch out Fultz and DSJ, lol.
Ed Pinkney wrote:djFan71 wrote:Assuming Knicks are out on AD, but getting Kyrie & KD. Who could you flip #3 and DSJ salary for that's not AD?
#3 and DSJ for Josh Richardson
#3 and DSJ, Knox for Aaron Gordon
#3 and DSJ for..... Tatum/Yabu/Wanamaker
Probably not enough, but if you throw in a DAL pick or 2????
The Aaron Gordon one could work for both sides, I think. They play Barrett/Isaac/Bamba as their frontline of the future and get a DAL pick. The scrubmatch out Fultz and DSJ, lol.
Getting a top three pick and another young talented (but flawed) player on their rookie scale contract (or two of them with the second option) for players like Richardson and Gordon would be daylight robbery in my opinion. They are nice enough players, but they are higher end role players (again, in my opinion). I don't think either of them are ever sniffing an All Star game for example. But I imagine Orlando or Miami would probably say yes very quickly. New York on the other hand I think would hang up the phone pretty quickly.
The third option is probably closer to equal value if you truly thought someone who will be available at three in this draft could be better than Tatum. I don't think that is the case, Tatum still has All Star and possibly All NBA talent, and he has shown it in the playoffs already. I don't follow college ball at all, but from what I hear a player like Barrett is certainly no sure thing is he?
djFan71 wrote:Saint Lazarus wrote:djFan71 wrote:Assuming Knicks are out on AD, but getting Kyrie & KD. Who could you flip #3 and DSJ salary for that's not AD?
#3 and DSJ for Josh Richardson
#3 and DSJ, Knox for Aaron Gordon
#3 and DSJ for..... Tatum/Yabu/Wanamaker
Probably not enough, but if you throw in a DAL pick or 2????
The Aaron Gordon one could work for both sides, I think. They play Barrett/Isaac/Bamba as their frontline of the future and get a DAL pick. The scrubmatch out Fultz and DSJ, lol.
josh richardson?
Dude would be perfect next to kD, Kyrie. Good shooter, can create a little. Perfect 3rd scorer. Good defender. Contract is great as well. Locked in for a while, cheap. 3 might be a little much, but adding Bam or 13 seems a little much the other way. I feel like something could be figured out.
dorkestra wrote:Embiid is embarrassing the whole city of Philadelphia. Wake up you little bitch
The Comedian wrote:Saint Lazarus playing 4D chess right now.
This dude legit has other Celtics fans arguing with him
Saint Lazarus wrote:djFan71 wrote:Saint Lazarus wrote:
josh richardson?
Dude would be perfect next to kD, Kyrie. Good shooter, can create a little. Perfect 3rd scorer. Good defender. Contract is great as well. Locked in for a while, cheap. 3 might be a little much, but adding Bam or 13 seems a little much the other way. I feel like something could be figured out.
No I just find it weird that you think tatum and Richardson are on the same level. I thought I was missing something with him, or you're really down on tatum
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djFan71 wrote:Ed Pinkney wrote:djFan71 wrote:Assuming Knicks are out on AD, but getting Kyrie & KD. Who could you flip #3 and DSJ salary for that's not AD?
#3 and DSJ for Josh Richardson
#3 and DSJ, Knox for Aaron Gordon
#3 and DSJ for..... Tatum/Yabu/Wanamaker
Probably not enough, but if you throw in a DAL pick or 2????
The Aaron Gordon one could work for both sides, I think. They play Barrett/Isaac/Bamba as their frontline of the future and get a DAL pick. The scrubmatch out Fultz and DSJ, lol.
Getting a top three pick and another young talented (but flawed) player on their rookie scale contract (or two of them with the second option) for players like Richardson and Gordon would be daylight robbery in my opinion. They are nice enough players, but they are higher end role players (again, in my opinion). I don't think either of them are ever sniffing an All Star game for example. But I imagine Orlando or Miami would probably say yes very quickly. New York on the other hand I think would hang up the phone pretty quickly.
The third option is probably closer to equal value if you truly thought someone who will be available at three in this draft could be better than Tatum. I don't think that is the case, Tatum still has All Star and possibly All NBA talent, and he has shown it in the playoffs already. I don't follow college ball at all, but from what I hear a player like Barrett is certainly no sure thing is he?
Mainly spitballing to see what nyk could do. I don’t think the number 3 helps kD and Kyrie next year. But ny doesn’t have a ton of salary to work with,hence including dsj. Even then, it’s hard to find better players that could be available in that 12-20M salary range c if you add other guys like Frank or Knox.
Everyone keeps saying this draft is weak, and Gordon and Richardson are both really good. The potential of Barrett in 3 years doesn’t matter to KD when he’s 33 years old. I know the Knicks have mortgaged the future before in vain. But, if they get KD and Kyrie, now is the right time to do it. I bet ORL fans scream bloody murder if you propose that deal. Not sure on MIA, but Josh was their best player this year.
Ed Pinkney wrote:I guess the way I see it is I don’t think it would be good decision (and I would not be very happy as a fan) if the Celtics were to trade the third pick in the draft and a player like Terry Rozier for a player like Richardson or Gordon. I see top three picks as the sort of assets you need to get an All Star level player like Davis.
I get what you mean that the Knicks might not want to add a rookie if they get Irving and Durant, I would imagine they would be setting their sights a bit higher though.
djFan71 wrote:Ed Pinkney wrote:djFan71 wrote:Assuming Knicks are out on AD, but getting Kyrie & KD. Who could you flip #3 and DSJ salary for that's not AD?
#3 and DSJ for Josh Richardson
#3 and DSJ, Knox for Aaron Gordon
#3 and DSJ for..... Tatum/Yabu/Wanamaker
Probably not enough, but if you throw in a DAL pick or 2????
The Aaron Gordon one could work for both sides, I think. They play Barrett/Isaac/Bamba as their frontline of the future and get a DAL pick. The scrubmatch out Fultz and DSJ, lol.
Getting a top three pick and another young talented (but flawed) player on their rookie scale contract (or two of them with the second option) for players like Richardson and Gordon would be daylight robbery in my opinion. They are nice enough players, but they are higher end role players (again, in my opinion). I don't think either of them are ever sniffing an All Star game for example. But I imagine Orlando or Miami would probably say yes very quickly. New York on the other hand I think would hang up the phone pretty quickly.
The third option is probably closer to equal value if you truly thought someone who will be available at three in this draft could be better than Tatum. I don't think that is the case, Tatum still has All Star and possibly All NBA talent, and he has shown it in the playoffs already. I don't follow college ball at all, but from what I hear a player like Barrett is certainly no sure thing is he?
Mainly spitballing to see what nyk could do. I don’t think the number 3 helps kD and Kyrie next year. But ny doesn’t have a ton of salary to work with,hence including dsj. Even then, it’s hard to find better players that could be available in that 12-20M salary range c if you add other guys like Frank or Knox.
Everyone keeps saying this draft is weak, and Gordon and Richardson are both really good. The potential of Barrett in 3 years doesn’t matter to KD when he’s 33 years old. I know the Knicks have mortgaged the future before in vain. But, if they get KD and Kyrie, now is the right time to do it. I bet ORL fans scream bloody murder if you propose that deal. Not sure on MIA, but Josh was their best player this year.
Darth Celtic wrote:djFan71 wrote:Ed Pinkney wrote:
Getting a top three pick and another young talented (but flawed) player on their rookie scale contract (or two of them with the second option) for players like Richardson and Gordon would be daylight robbery in my opinion. They are nice enough players, but they are higher end role players (again, in my opinion). I don't think either of them are ever sniffing an All Star game for example. But I imagine Orlando or Miami would probably say yes very quickly. New York on the other hand I think would hang up the phone pretty quickly.
The third option is probably closer to equal value if you truly thought someone who will be available at three in this draft could be better than Tatum. I don't think that is the case, Tatum still has All Star and possibly All NBA talent, and he has shown it in the playoffs already. I don't follow college ball at all, but from what I hear a player like Barrett is certainly no sure thing is he?
Mainly spitballing to see what nyk could do. I don’t think the number 3 helps kD and Kyrie next year. But ny doesn’t have a ton of salary to work with,hence including dsj. Even then, it’s hard to find better players that could be available in that 12-20M salary range c if you add other guys like Frank or Knox.
Everyone keeps saying this draft is weak, and Gordon and Richardson are both really good. The potential of Barrett in 3 years doesn’t matter to KD when he’s 33 years old. I know the Knicks have mortgaged the future before in vain. But, if they get KD and Kyrie, now is the right time to do it. I bet ORL fans scream bloody murder if you propose that deal. Not sure on MIA, but Josh was their best player this year.
I can tell you, the #3 pick in this draft is not worth much. I has value, but not value that it's had the last 3-4 drafts. This is more like Gainnis's draft. You might find a all star or MVP past 2, but odds are more likely you get a 5 year and out nba player instead.
Floody100 wrote:As depressing as it is, I’m starting to accept that this is bound to happen.
At least it isn’t the Lakers I guess lol