Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[Juco24]

Im just going on GUT alone...If we are going to keep the player- get RJ...I have a feeling he's going to become special...

AGREED! We didn't get an opportunity to see a LOT of his game because of how NCAA ball is played, but he did show time & again the ability to come through in the clutch! He was overshadowed but who wouldn't have been?

Sidenote: Knox, who is only a few months older than Barrett has exhibited not only a willingness to get better but also a DESIRE as evident by going back in the gym almost immediately after the season. WHO DOES THAT?!

Then there's Money Mitch, who just turned 21 in April...

I swear - unless someone somehow can GUARANTEE me a championship because of AD, there's just no way I'm trading potentially 3 studs for him AND Dennis/Frank AND DRAFT PICKS.

HELL NO!!! I'll watch these kids first and keep the hope alive. lol

[prophet_of_rage]

They have no idea. Duke wasn't an ideal situation as you have a playmaking slasher surrounded by non-shooters and he still was the dmoninant scorer in the toughest conference.

I didn’t realize he had reclassified. So he technically should’ve just been entering college THIS fall.

And as for the barreling into people thing. Not true.
He’s herky jerky and kinda awkward, rigid but his footwork and patience in the paint is special.
And in transition he’s as electrifying as Zion (well you know). It feels wack knowing that it’s very likely this kid never wears a Knick jerz. I know KD-AD-Ky is an instant contender. But man, I think we are really underrating how good this kid can be as a Knick.

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[Jose7]

Got faith in perry to find another trier type of guy at the end of the draft and maybe after the draft..

[waya]

Anybody know where to watch replays of Duke's regular season games?

720pier.ru has all sorts of pro and ncaa games to DL via torrent

http://720pier.ru/search.php?keywords=duke&fid%5B0%5D=52

Thank you, sir

[Deeeez Knicks]

Quote from Knicks beat writer Marc Berman on the Locked on Knicks podcast

We were waiting for Scott Perry and Steve Mills to come out of their interview with Ja Morant and they stopped and chatted with David Griffin for a good 10 minutes...Mills and Perry are being very careful in the media and they have not spoken to the media since the lottery... Right now they are lazer focused. [The feeling] is that the Knicks don’t want to build up RJ Barrett in the media because he will be part of their Anthony Davis package.

I am with Perry and Mills on this one. No need to say anything at this point. Focus on the plan and I look foward to hearing from them after the draft and free agency.

[DOT]

Looking like AD to Knicks is a lock. We have to make sure we do everything to keep Robinson. He was 2nd rd pick so his contract would be perfect! Dsj, Knox 3rd pick mavs 1st rounder

If we have too throw frank in. Ill rather keep dotson if we having a big 3.

I think that's a janky ass frontcourt

AD/Mitch are both best defensively at C, and neither shoot good enough to really make it work on offense

And we'd have to give up much more than that. Lakers are willing to give up everything and multiple picks to get him, so we'd have to basically give up everything too

[kej718]

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/rj-barrett-is-nba-draft-godsend-knicks-fans-didnt-want-shades-of-wade/

Would you take RJ over these past #1 picks?

2013: Anthony Bennett
2014: Andrew Wiggins
2015: Karl-Anthony Towns
2016: Ben Simmons
2017: Markelle Fultz
2018: Deandre Ayton

Another take away from the article.

Player A: 22.6 points, 7.6 rebounds, 4.3 assists, 45.4 FG%, 30.8 3P%

Player B: 21.5 points, 6.3 rebounds, 4.4 assists, 50.1 FG%, 31.8 3P%

Player A is Barrett — at age 18 at Duke.

Player B is Wade – at age 20-21 at Marquette.

He's still a kid give him time

[Context]

Im just going on GUT alone...If we are going to keep the player- get RJ...I have a feeling he's going to become special...

AGREED! We didn't get an opportunity to see a LOT of his game because of how NCAA ball is played, but he did show time & again the ability to come through in the clutch! He was overshadowed but who wouldn't have been?

Sidenote: Knox, who is only a few months older than Barrett has exhibited not only a willingness to get better but also a DESIRE as evident by going back in the gym almost immediately after the season. WHO DOES THAT?!

Then there's Money Mitch, who just turned 21 in April...

I swear - unless someone somehow can GUARANTEE me a championship because of AD, there's just no way I'm trading potentially 3 studs for him AND Dennis/Frank AND DRAFT PICKS.

HELL NO!!! I'll watch these kids first and keep the hope alive. lol

Im with you! It's desperation...Madness...I say if "Ainge" is willing to give NO everything for a one year AD- let him...

I say we make an offer that's enough for NO to say while the laker offer is better it's not enough for us to keep AD on the west coast.

And as far as Boston- if I'm AD- I make it clear to Boston that I'm not -no will I ever sign an extension- Let me see Ainge make the deal then- He'll just be doing the work for us in eliminating a team that we have to deal with...

[spree8]

And if for some reason we don’t get KD and Kyrie?

[iLLmatic860]

Looking like AD to Knicks is a lock. We have to make sure we do everything to keep Robinson. He was 2nd rd pick so his contract would be perfect! Dsj, Knox 3rd pick mavs 1st rounder

If we have too throw frank in. Ill rather keep dotson if we having a big 3.

I think that's a janky ass frontcourt

AD/Mitch are both best defensively at C, and neither shoot good enough to really make it work on offense

And we'd have to give up much more than that. Lakers are willing to give up everything and multiple picks to get him, so we'd have to basically give up everything too

Yeah Idk I just feel like the potential and youth alone that we can give Pelicans is way better. Not to mention this is a 3 player draft. Rj Barrett or Ja Morant is way better than what The 4th pick would get you. Not only that it would make Zion happy to play with his best friend. New Orleans already has a problem keeping star players. People were calling Rj Barrett the 1st or 2nd best player at one point. He has alot of potential. That mixed in with Knox, DsJ, Frank and Dallas 1st all fits in with Zions timeline. We can sell New Orleans on youth and potential. Theres nothing more valuable then that right now.

Lonzo does not want to play in New Orleans. If he gets traded their his father will throw a fit all over tv or social media. Ingram is a good player but his blood clot issues could be very concerning. Kuzma is good too but he can be pretty inconsistent. And that 4th pick is nowhere as valuable as that 3rd most importantly. Also another rumor out there to follow is that New Orleans would prefer to trade AD to the East and not the Lakers.

[smw6230]

Im just going on GUT alone...If we are going to keep the player- get RJ...I have a feeling he's going to become special...

AGREED! We didn't get an opportunity to see a LOT of his game because of how NCAA ball is played, but he did show time & again the ability to come through in the clutch! He was overshadowed but who wouldn't have been?

Sidenote: Knox, who is only a few months older than Barrett has exhibited not only a willingness to get better but also a DESIRE as evident by going back in the gym almost immediately after the season. WHO DOES THAT?!

Then there's Money Mitch, who just turned 21 in April...

I swear - unless someone somehow can GUARANTEE me a championship because of AD, there's just no way I'm trading potentially 3 studs for him AND Dennis/Frank AND DRAFT PICKS.

HELL NO!!! I'll watch these kids first and keep the hope alive. lol

Im with you! It's desperation...Madness...I say if "Ainge" is willing to give NO everything for a one year AD- let him...

I say we make an offer that's enough for NO to say while the laker offer is better it's not enough for us to keep AD on the west coast.

And as far as Boston- if I'm AD- I make it clear to Boston that I'm not -no will I ever sign an extension- Let me see Ainge make the deal then- He'll just be doing the work for us in eliminating a team that we have to deal with...

^^ This ^^

If Boston goes all in for AD. The Knicks win because any Boston trade would weaken a division / conference rival for a rental that has already expressed no desire to sign long term in Boston.

The Lakers best offer will be something like Kuzma, 4, the Ball family (wait till NO catches the act of an EMPOWERED Levar Ball, and a guy in B. Ingraham that has serious medical issues (blood clots).

That's the competition.

And to beat those offers it id said thst the Knicks would have to invlude

#3 pick, DS Jr, Knox, Mitch, 2 first round picks, Frank.

That Knicoffer doesn't only beat the competition its laps it twice (while NO has no leverage).

If that's the competition my best offer (which is problematic from a salary matching stsndpoint: which really is the issue) would be Mitch, Frank, DsJr, and A first round pick.

I 'm not throwing in RJ Barrett and multiple 1st when I judt have to beat a competiting offer of 4 snd Kyle Kuzma. I might evrn throw in another 1st BUT NOT RJ.

[smw6230]

Or to argue this another way. It can be argued thst of the competiting LA/NY offers Mitchell Robinson is the best prospect. To show how all out of proportion the Knicks offer us vis-a-vis Lakers, in the Knicks package Robinson coukd be the thurd best prospect NO gets in return. RJ would be #1and that Dallas pick coukd end up being very high.

All to beat an offer fir 4 and Kyle Kuzma.

And people here seem DESPERATE to maje that dead.

[newyorker4ever]

I think the only two i'd be good with taking at #3 over Barrett would be Garland or Hunter.

[DrCoach]

Jalen Rose is a terrible comparison.

DeMar DeRozan with a Mamba Mentality and More range is better.

He ceiling is Paul George

[Jeff Van Gully]

Watch on YouTube

Don't know if this was posted yet, but I'm always a fan of Dime Drop stuff

Some of this guy's tape looks amazing and yet, some of it looks terrible

Like, one second he looks like a better KP, next he's Olowokandi

Interesting prospect, but I'm out

Spoiler:

But maybe not for BaF

i'd take a stab later in the lottery.

like, if i were atlanta, he'd be one of my pics. why the hell not?

[KnixinSix]

AGREED! We didn't get an opportunity to see a LOT of his game because of how NCAA ball is played, but he did show time & again the ability to come through in the clutch! He was overshadowed but who wouldn't have been?

Sidenote: Knox, who is only a few months older than Barrett has exhibited not only a willingness to get better but also a DESIRE as evident by going back in the gym almost immediately after the season. WHO DOES THAT?!

Then there's Money Mitch, who just turned 21 in April...

I swear - unless someone somehow can GUARANTEE me a championship because of AD, there's just no way I'm trading potentially 3 studs for him AND Dennis/Frank AND DRAFT PICKS.

HELL NO!!! I'll watch these kids first and keep the hope alive. lol

Im with you! It's desperation...Madness...I say if "Ainge" is willing to give NO everything for a one year AD- let him...

I say we make an offer that's enough for NO to say while the laker offer is better it's not enough for us to keep AD on the west coast.

And as far as Boston- if I'm AD- I make it clear to Boston that I'm not -no will I ever sign an extension- Let me see Ainge make the deal then- He'll just be doing the work for us in eliminating a team that we have to deal with...

^^ This ^^

If Boston goes all in for AD. The Knicks win because any Boston trade would weaken a division / conference rival for a rental that has already expressed no desire to sign long term in Boston.

The Lakers best offer will be something like Kuzma, 4, the Ball family (wait till NO catches the act of an EMPOWERED Levar Ball, and a guy in B. Ingraham that has serious medical issues (blood clots).

That's the competition.

And to beat those offers it id said thst the Knicks would have to invlude

#3 pick, DS Jr, Knox, Mitch, 2 first round picks, Frank.

That Knicoffer doesn't only beat the competition its laps it twice (while NO has no leverage).

If that's the competition my best offer (which is problematic from a salary matching stsndpoint: which really is the issue) would be Mitch, Frank, DsJr, and A first round pick.

I 'm not throwing in RJ Barrett and multiple 1st when I judt have to beat a competiting offer of 4 snd Kyle Kuzma. I might evrn throw in another 1st BUT NOT RJ.

I believe you are correct in how the competitons packages aren't better than ours but dont agree ours is better if it doesn't include Barrett. Boston can still of Brown and or Tatum and Lakers with Kuzma Ball Ingram they may like better than Knox DSJ Frank. Barrett changes all that. As of right now he is the top chip that any team could offer in this . Besides we cant fit Barrett's 7-8 mill under our cap unless we are forgoing the 3rd max guy and only bringing in KD and AD.

[bringinhinkie]

I actually don't know what people see in Barrett - please explain

What I see is a old school small forward in a guard sized body, who can't shoot reliably or even make his free throws, who's a bit rigid and lacking athletically, who can only use his left hand, and who doesn't step up in big moments

an 18yo who put up stupid numbers while playing for Duke.. all while co-existing with multiple other stars and living up to the hype as a top prospect in the country

you people are overlooking it

people talking about his "ceiling".. none of you have a clue what his ceiling is.. that's on him to put in the work and reach his potential.. this ain't nba 2k.. this is real life..

fans act like a player's potential is written at birth.. the "natural talent" delusion that exists only in the minds of those that never competed.. these college players either put in the hours to improve, or they don't.. all signs point to this guy putting in the work, as he has up to this point

take the BPA.. he's more than likely the obvious BPA assuming on the board.. passing on this guy would be asinine

[Milk]

Wasn’t a good game for him, but here’s a highlight vid of RJ playing at MSG last year.

Watch on YouTube

[GettinitDone]

I love Zion, and I hope he turns into a superstar and has a fine injury free NBA career.

BUT if he turns to be a bust, and we keep RJ who becomes a James Harden, or trades him for AD to join Kyrie and KD here to build dynasty, this lottery night will turn from our curse to blessing. Because if we had got him, we're not trading him for AD.

[MaseInYourFace]

I think it’s closer between these two than most realize. However, Knicks should just keep it simple and draft the best player. Right now I’d give a small edge to RJ mainly because I think he has a higher ceiling but evaluations could change a lot between now and the draft.