Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[KnicksGadfly]

Damn I can't be the only one here who is intrigued by Coby White. Not sure if I take Culver over Hunter.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Looking like AD to Knicks is a lock. We have to make sure we do everything to keep Robinson. He was 2nd rd pick so his contract would be perfect! Dsj, Knox 3rd pick mavs 1st rounder

If we have too throw frank in. Ill rather keep dotson if we having a big 3.

frank would have to go in to match salary.

[Ray Williams]

Im just going on GUT alone...If we are going to keep the player- get RJ...I have a feeling he's going to become special...

AGREED! We didn't get an opportunity to see a LOT of his game because of how NCAA ball is played, but he did show time & again the ability to come through in the clutch! He was overshadowed but who wouldn't have been?

Sidenote: Knox, who is only a few months older than Barrett has exhibited not only a willingness to get better but also a DESIRE as evident by going back in the gym almost immediately after the season. WHO DOES THAT?!

Then there's Money Mitch, who just turned 21 in April...

I swear - unless someone somehow can GUARANTEE me a championship because of AD, there's just no way I'm trading potentially 3 studs for him AND Dennis/Frank AND DRAFT PICKS.

HELL NO!!! I'll watch these kids first and keep the hope alive. lol

This, and I’m pretty sure it takes us out of being able to sign a second max free agent.

[robillionaire]

could we send LFT to make the salary match and then they waive him or is that not possible

[smw6230]

I believe you are correct in how the competitons packages aren't better than ours but dont agree ours is better if it doesn't include Barrett. Boston can still of Brown and or Tatum and Lakers with Kuzma Ball Ingram they may like better than Knox DSJ Frank. Barrett changes all that. As of right now he is the top chip that any team could offer in this . Besides we cant fit Barrett's 7-8 mill under our cap unless we are forgoing the 3rd max guy and only bringing in KD and AD.

Ah, but does Ainge include Brown and/or Tatum in a NO deal with Davis' own father making public statements to the effect that AD has zero interest in resigning with Boston.

Remember, if Kyrie leaves he will have just gotten burned on a deal where he gave up assets for a guy who left in FA. I can't imagine he'd have much stomach for another go 'round.

[smw6230]

I believe you are correct in how the competitons packages aren't better than ours but dont agree ours is better if it doesn't include Barrett. Boston can still of Brown and or Tatum and Lakers with Kuzma Ball Ingram they may like better than Knox DSJ Frank. Barrett changes all that. As of right now he is the top chip that any team could offer in this . Besides we cant fit Barrett's 7-8 mill under our cap unless we are forgoing the 3rd max guy and only bringing in KD and AD.

Ah, but does Ainge include Brown and/or Tatum in a NO deal with Davis' own father making public statements to the effect that AD has zero interest in resigning with Boston.

Remember, if Kyrie leaves he will have just gotten burned on a deal where he gave up assets for a guy who left in FA. I can't imagine he'd have much stomach for another go 'round.

[Day_Man]

Damn I can't be the only one here who is intrigued by Coby White. Not sure if I take Culver over Hunter.

I'm a big White fan.. He's got that dog in him.. I have him at #4

[newyorker4ever]

Watch on YouTube

Sheesh, this one he’s showing off his handle.

Anyone know how many times he went to the basket with the ball to the right side in that whole video clip? Pretty sure it was zero so that will be something NBA players and coaches will pick up on real quick so he definitely needs to put that at the top of his list of things he needs to work on if we draft him and keep him.

[Context]

I think the only two i'd be good with taking at #3 over Barrett would be Garland or Hunter.

if you are going to do that -then you trade down...

[KnixinSix]

I believe you are correct in how the competitons packages aren't better than ours but dont agree ours is better if it doesn't include Barrett. Boston can still of Brown and or Tatum and Lakers with Kuzma Ball Ingram they may like better than Knox DSJ Frank. Barrett changes all that. As of right now he is the top chip that any team could offer in this . Besides we cant fit Barrett's 7-8 mill under our cap unless we are forgoing the 3rd max guy and only bringing in KD and AD.

Ah, but does Ainge include Brown and/or Tatum in a NO deal with Davis' own father making public statements to the effect that AD has zero interest in resigning with Boston.

Remember, if Kyrie leaves he will have just gotten burned on a deal where he gave up assets for a guy who left in FA. I can't imagine he'd have much stomach for another go 'round.

Its a good question. His first strategy is to convince ky
2 stay. Does he offer that if he leaves? Probably not.

[newyorker4ever]

I could see us trading for another 1st rd pick. Maybe trade DSJ for a mid 1st and target a stretch 4? If we feel like Kyrie is coming it makes sense to shop him now.

If we trade the #3 pick then i would love for us to trade DSJ and a future pick to get us a first round pick out of this draft especially if we could get one anywhere in the lottery. If we traded the #3 pick for AD or B.Beal and then were still able to come out of this draft with Bol Bol or Sekou Doumbouya or T.Herro or K.Porter then i'd be a very happy man. Shyt even if we keep the #3 pick and draft Barrett or D.Hunter (love this kid) or D.Garland or whoever then i'd still love to get another first round pick.

[Day_Man]

Jalen Rose is a terrible comparison.

DeMar DeRozan with a Mamba Mentality and More range is better.

He ceiling is Paul George

yes please

[newyorker4ever]

Watch on YouTube

Don't know if this was posted yet, but I'm always a fan of Dime Drop stuff

Some of this guy's tape looks amazing and yet, some of it looks terrible

Like, one second he looks like a better KP, next he's Olowokandi

Interesting prospect, but I'm out

Spoiler:

But maybe not for BaF

If we somehow had a pick in the middle of the first round, whether that be trading down or trading back into the first round, and Bol Bol is sitting there then i'm taking him without a doubt.

[Context]

I believe you are correct in how the competitons packages aren't better than ours but dont agree ours is better if it doesn't include Barrett. Boston can still of Brown and or Tatum and Lakers with Kuzma Ball Ingram they may like better than Knox DSJ Frank. Barrett changes all that. As of right now he is the top chip that any team could offer in this . Besides we cant fit Barrett's 7-8 mill under our cap unless we are forgoing the 3rd max guy and only bringing in KD and AD.

Ah, but does Ainge include Brown and/or Tatum in a NO deal with Davis' own father making public statements to the effect that AD has zero interest in resigning with Boston.

Remember, if Kyrie leaves he will have just gotten burned on a deal where he gave up assets for a guy who left in FA. I can't imagine he'd have much stomach for another go 'round.

I know..I'd be willing to bet he doesnt include both...To the posters that think Boston will trade them both- look at the top teams in the league-
you cant just have two superstars- you need starters and a strong bench to have a legit shot at winning it all...The Lakers-Boston nor
Knicks should gut their teams for a player that's bound for trade anyway...Picks are one thing- give them all away if you're desperate (boston)- but you cant win it all with just mercenary vets...

AD will be traded- the last thing NO needs is drama to start off Zion's career...

[SARGO127]

He is a lefty DeRozen with better shot mechanics and better passing. The kid is 18. A flat out stud.

[shtolky]

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/rj-barrett-is-nba-draft-godsend-knicks-fans-didnt-want-shades-of-wade/

Would you take RJ over these past #1 picks?

2013: Anthony Bennett
2014: Andrew Wiggins
2015: Karl-Anthony Towns
2016: Ben Simmons
2017: Markelle Fultz
2018: Deandre Ayton

Another take away from the article.

Player A: 22.6 points, 7.6 rebounds, 4.3 assists, 45.4 FG%, 30.8 3P%

Player B: 21.5 points, 6.3 rebounds, 4.4 assists, 50.1 FG%, 31.8 3P%

Player A is Barrett — at age 18 at Duke.

Player B is Wade – at age 20-21 at Marquette.

He's still a kid give him time

People would have picked Wade apart back then too if we were getting ready to draft him. Just gotta wait and see, but RJ did have one of the best freshman seasons in college basketball history from a statistical standpoint and he was surrounded by one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in the nation. Just gotta hope and assume he'll work on his weaknesses (shooting first and foremost, handles, and cleaning up tunnel vision).

[newyorker4ever]

Looking like AD to Knicks is a lock. We have to make sure we do everything to keep Robinson. He was 2nd rd pick so his contract would be perfect! Dsj, Knox 3rd pick mavs 1st rounder

If we have too throw frank in. Ill rather keep dotson if we having a big 3.

If we gonna have a big 3 or even a big 2 then i wanna keep Frank and Dotson because ya gotta have players who love playing defense to win in this league. GSW has won so many big games over the years because of things A.Iguadala or D.Green have done with their defense even though they don't get enough of the credit because the focus is so much on Steph, KD and Klay. I'm not saying Iggy and Dray don't get any credit because of course they do but there's been many big games that GSW has won over the years that without a big defensive play by Iggy or Dray they wouldn't of won those games. Gotta have defenders that love playing defense and love taking on the challenge of guarding the other teams best player.

[newyorker4ever]

Looking like AD to Knicks is a lock. We have to make sure we do everything to keep Robinson. He was 2nd rd pick so his contract would be perfect! Dsj, Knox 3rd pick mavs 1st rounder

If we have too throw frank in. Ill rather keep dotson if we having a big 3.

I think that's a janky ass frontcourt

AD/Mitch are both best defensively at C, and neither shoot good enough to really make it work on offense

And we'd have to give up much more than that. Lakers are willing to give up everything and multiple picks to get him, so we'd have to basically give up everything too

AD doesn't shoot good enough? I'm pretty sure he's a pretty damn good shooting big man.

[spree8]

I actually don't know what people see in Barrett - please explain

What I see is a old school small forward in a guard sized body, who can't shoot reliably or even make his free throws, who's a bit rigid and lacking athletically, who can only use his left hand, and who doesn't step up in big moments

an 18yo who put up stupid numbers while playing for Duke.. all while co-existing with multiple other stars and living up to the hype as a top prospect in the country

you people are overlooking it

people talking about his "ceiling".. none of you have a clue what his ceiling is.. that's on him to put in the work and reach his potential.. this ain't nba 2k.. this is real life..

fans act like a player's potential is written at birth.. the "natural talent" delusion that exists only in the minds of those that never competed.. these college players either put in the hours to improve, or they don't.. all signs point to this guy putting in the work, as he has up to this point

take the BPA.. he's more than likely the obvious BPA assuming on the board.. passing on this guy would be asinine

Good point. Development is huge. Look at Giannis... nobody in their right mind would’ve thought he’d grow into this thru hard work. I remember in like 2014 playing a Gm a Team game on the Trade Games Board, I had the Bucks and I traded Giannis for a bag of chips basically. Just goes to show you that ya never know with young kids like that.

[DOT]

Looking like AD to Knicks is a lock. We have to make sure we do everything to keep Robinson. He was 2nd rd pick so his contract would be perfect! Dsj, Knox 3rd pick mavs 1st rounder

If we have too throw frank in. Ill rather keep dotson if we having a big 3.

I think that's a janky ass frontcourt

AD/Mitch are both best defensively at C, and neither shoot good enough to really make it work on offense

And we'd have to give up much more than that. Lakers are willing to give up everything and multiple picks to get him, so we'd have to basically give up everything too

AD doesn't shoot good enough? I'm pretty sure he's a pretty damn good shooting big man.

He's a good shooter for a big. That doesn't mean he's a good shooter comparatively

33% from 3 isn't gonna give Mitch enough space on PnRs, and Mitch just can't shoot at all so an AD PnR is just gonna get stuffed right away

It could work, but that's why I say it'd be janky