Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[Br00kLyn]

Looking like AD to Knicks is a lock. We have to make sure we do everything to keep Robinson. He was 2nd rd pick so his contract would be perfect! Dsj, Knox 3rd pick mavs 1st rounder

If we have too throw frank in. Ill rather keep dotson if we having a big 3.

I think that's a janky ass frontcourt

AD/Mitch are both best defensively at C, and neither shoot good enough to really make it work on offense

And we'd have to give up much more than that. Lakers are willing to give up everything and multiple picks to get him, so we'd have to basically give up everything too

AD doesn't shoot good enough? I'm pretty sure he's a pretty damn good shooting big man.

lol facts, any front court that starts with AD is a good front court

[newyorker4ever]

Looking like AD to Knicks is a lock. We have to make sure we do everything to keep Robinson. He was 2nd rd pick so his contract would be perfect! Dsj, Knox 3rd pick mavs 1st rounder

If we have too throw frank in. Ill rather keep dotson if we having a big 3.

I think that's a janky ass frontcourt

AD/Mitch are both best defensively at C, and neither shoot good enough to really make it work on offense

And we'd have to give up much more than that. Lakers are willing to give up everything and multiple picks to get him, so we'd have to basically give up everything too

Yeah Idk I just feel like the potential and youth alone that we can give Pelicans is way better. Not to mention this is a 3 player draft. Rj Barrett or Ja Morant is way better than what The 4th pick would get you. Not only that it would make Zion happy to play with his best friend. New Orleans already has a problem keeping star players. People were calling Rj Barrett the 1st or 2nd best player at one point. He has alot of potential. That mixed in with Knox, DsJ, Frank and Dallas 1st all fits in with Zions timeline. We can sell New Orleans on youth and potential. Theres nothing more valuable then that right now.

Lonzo does not want to play in New Orleans. If he gets traded their his father will throw a fit all over tv or social media. Ingram is a good player but his blood clot issues could be very concerning. Kuzma is good too but he can be pretty inconsistent. And that 4th pick is nowhere as valuable as that 3rd most importantly. Also another rumor out there to follow is that New Orleans would prefer to trade AD to the East and not the Lakers.

Why is it that every time i see someone making up a trade package for AD or Beal or whoever it always has one or both of the Dallas picks in it? If we're gonna have a big 3 of KD, AD, Kyrie to go along with whatever vets we get and whatever young players we have left after the trade then we're gonna be a really good team and picking in the bottom of the 1st round for the next 4-5-6 years so i'd rather trade our 1st rounders and keep the unprotected 2021 and top 10 protected 2023 Dallas picks.

Wouldn't that be the better way to go about a trade or am i missing something?

[KnixinSix]

Looking like AD to Knicks is a lock. We have to make sure we do everything to keep Robinson. He was 2nd rd pick so his contract would be perfect! Dsj, Knox 3rd pick mavs 1st rounder

If we have too throw frank in. Ill rather keep dotson if we having a big 3.

If we gonna have a big 3 or even a big 2 then i wanna keep Frank and Dotson because ya gotta have players who love playing defense to win in this league. GSW has won so many big games over the years because of things A.Iguadala or D.Green have done with their defense even though they don't get enough of the credit because the focus is so much on Steph, KD and Klay. I'm not saying Iggy and Dray don't get any credit because of course they do but there's been many big games that GSW has won over the years that without a big defensive play by Iggy or Dray they wouldn't of won those games. Gotta have defenders that love playing defense and love taking on the challenge of guarding the other teams best player.

Dotson and Allen can likely be fit salary cap wise. Frank probably has to go.

[Clyde Frazier]

whoops

[Ray Williams]

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What say you? I voted Beal and Mitch. Really think Mitch is that special and a core 4 of Kyrie or Kemba, Beal, Durant and Mitch would be insane.

I Think I’d rather have a core 4 of Mitch,KD, RJ and Jimmy Butler.

[BasicBall]

First off if they take RJ I won’t stop watching. But I prefer they draft Jarret Culver and here’s why. If NY gets both Kyrie & Durant they are both ball dominate and attract attention. RJ also is more effective with the ball in his hands, how would those 3 co-exist? Culver on the other hand, does not have the best outside shot but is better suited to play off the ball as a spot up shooter alongside Kyrie & Durant. Dotson will be invaluable alongside Kyrie & Durant in my view.

Defensively I think Culver is superior in every way to RJ. Offensively in time and if you want, I can see Culver able to run your offense as RJ would be able to, though I think Culver’s skill set over time will evolve to be on par with RJ who right now is superior to Culver but not by much.

And lastly I compare Culver to a more aggressive Ntilikina who I’d be far more comfortable moving if I’ve drafted Culver, especially if NY indeed lands Kyrie & Durant. Note, 2 places I’d look to move Frank to is either Atlanta or Phoenix. To Phoenix for Josh Jackson or to Atlanta for the 10th pick where I’d draft Rui Hachimura.

In my view this is a 10-12 player deep draft. Not many stars outside of Zion & Ja, but plenty of really good to great starters and rotation guys. I think Culver can be a star (Paul George) and at the very least a very solid starter.

I trust THIS front office to pick the right player and I love how they’ve moved in silence for the most part. I also hope they pick Jarret Culver.

You ain’t **** for this

[KnixinSix]

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What say you? I voted Beal and Mitch. Really think Mitch is that special and a core 4 of Kyrie or Kemba, Beal, Durant and Mitch would be insane.

Mitch may not have to be included in the AD deal. But if he had to be included it makes the 2 choices a little closer . Barrett is a very strong chip in this equation with Dal unprotected first perhaps the 2nd best chip . Just a guess but if those 2 are included I dont think Mitch will need to be

[KnixinSix]

I think that's a janky ass frontcourt

AD/Mitch are both best defensively at C, and neither shoot good enough to really make it work on offense

And we'd have to give up much more than that. Lakers are willing to give up everything and multiple picks to get him, so we'd have to basically give up everything too

Yeah Idk I just feel like the potential and youth alone that we can give Pelicans is way better. Not to mention this is a 3 player draft. Rj Barrett or Ja Morant is way better than what The 4th pick would get you. Not only that it would make Zion happy to play with his best friend. New Orleans already has a problem keeping star players. People were calling Rj Barrett the 1st or 2nd best player at one point. He has alot of potential. That mixed in with Knox, DsJ, Frank and Dallas 1st all fits in with Zions timeline. We can sell New Orleans on youth and potential. Theres nothing more valuable then that right now.

Lonzo does not want to play in New Orleans. If he gets traded their his father will throw a fit all over tv or social media. Ingram is a good player but his blood clot issues could be very concerning. Kuzma is good too but he can be pretty inconsistent. And that 4th pick is nowhere as valuable as that 3rd most importantly. Also another rumor out there to follow is that New Orleans would prefer to trade AD to the East and not the Lakers.

Why is it that every time i see someone making up a trade package for AD or Beal or whoever it always has one or both of the Dallas picks in it? If we're gonna have a big 3 of KD, AD, Kyrie to go along with whatever vets we get and whatever young players we have left after the trade then we're gonna be a really good team and picking in the bottom of the 1st round for the next 4-5-6 years so i'd rather trade our 1st rounders and keep the unprotected 2021 and top 10 protected 2023 Dallas picks.

Wouldn't that be the better way to go about a trade or am i missing something?

Pels arent stupid. If we keep Mitch we probably have to give up one of the Dallas picks

[robillionaire]

I would either go for AD or the young players, Beal would be far and away my last option, no half measures, either rebuild or go for the big 3 and rings

[awy]

if you quit the team over the FO either trading down or trading away the pick lmfao

[Knicksfan20]

Watch on YouTube

Sheesh, this one he’s showing off his handle.

Anyone know how many times he went to the basket with the ball to the right side in that whole video clip? Pretty sure it was zero so that will be something NBA players and coaches will pick up on real quick so he definitely needs to put that at the top of his list of things he needs to work on if we draft him and keep him.

Barrett is very good with dribbling/finishing/passing with his right hand. U took a highlight video and made a very wrong assumption about him.

[newyorker4ever]

I think the only two i'd be good with taking at #3 over Barrett would be Garland or Hunter.

if you are going to do that -then you trade down...

Well of course the best option would be to trade down and gain an extra pick but Garland and Hunter could easily be drafted at 4 and 5 so we could only trade down to 5 at the most to know for sure we'd still get one of Garland or Hunter. But i could see the Lakers or Clev wanting Barrett enough to trade up just 1 or 2 spots to get him. So yes the best option would be to trade with one of those two teams and gain an extra draft pick but i'm just saying that even though i like taking Barrett at #3 that it wouldn't bother me too much if we drafted one of Garland or D.Hunter at #3 because i like both.

[Marty McFly]

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/rj-barrett-is-nba-draft-godsend-knicks-fans-didnt-want-shades-of-wade/

Would you take RJ over these past #1 picks?

2013: Anthony Bennett
2014: Andrew Wiggins
2015: Karl-Anthony Towns
2016: Ben Simmons
2017: Markelle Fultz
2018: Deandre Ayton

Another take away from the article.

Player A: 22.6 points, 7.6 rebounds, 4.3 assists, 45.4 FG%, 30.8 3P%

Player B: 21.5 points, 6.3 rebounds, 4.4 assists, 50.1 FG%, 31.8 3P%

Player A is Barrett — at age 18 at Duke.

Player B is Wade – at age 20-21 at Marquette.

He's still a kid give him time

not over ayton, simmons and towns obviously.

[Knicksfan20]

I would either go for AD or the young players, Beal would be far and away my last option, no half measures, either rebuild or go for the big 3 and rings

Beal is one of the top 2 way guards in the league. Passing on him I do not understand.

[Luv those Knicks]

You guys are getting me excited about the pick. I'm also afraid the Knicks will mess it up somehow. They'll trade him for some 32 year old center with bad knees or something, because Dolans gunna Dolan.

[newyorker4ever]

I think that's a janky ass frontcourt

AD/Mitch are both best defensively at C, and neither shoot good enough to really make it work on offense

And we'd have to give up much more than that. Lakers are willing to give up everything and multiple picks to get him, so we'd have to basically give up everything too

AD doesn't shoot good enough? I'm pretty sure he's a pretty damn good shooting big man.

He's a good shooter for a big. That doesn't mean he's a good shooter comparatively

33% from 3 isn't gonna give Mitch enough space on PnRs, and Mitch just can't shoot at all so an AD PnR is just gonna get stuffed right away

It could work, but that's why I say it'd be janky

Well AD is a big and for a big he shoots pretty damn good and lets not count Mitch out from being a decent shooting big man so soon since we haven't even seen yet if he can or can't shoot. Don't know why they didn't let him shoot since we were a bad team anyway. Why not let him shoot from wherever on the court just to see if he has a chance at becoming a good or decent shooter? He says he's gonna work on his shooting and shoot more next year so i'm excited to see if he can or not.

[newyorker4ever]

Looking like AD to Knicks is a lock. We have to make sure we do everything to keep Robinson. He was 2nd rd pick so his contract would be perfect! Dsj, Knox 3rd pick mavs 1st rounder

If we have too throw frank in. Ill rather keep dotson if we having a big 3.

If we gonna have a big 3 or even a big 2 then i wanna keep Frank and Dotson because ya gotta have players who love playing defense to win in this league. GSW has won so many big games over the years because of things A.Iguadala or D.Green have done with their defense even though they don't get enough of the credit because the focus is so much on Steph, KD and Klay. I'm not saying Iggy and Dray don't get any credit because of course they do but there's been many big games that GSW has won over the years that without a big defensive play by Iggy or Dray they wouldn't of won those games. Gotta have defenders that love playing defense and love taking on the challenge of guarding the other teams best player.

Dotson and Allen can likely be fit salary cap wise. Frank probably has to go.

Yeah i actually forgot about K.Allen and definitely want him around next year for his defense and he showed some offensive skills last year. We would be fine down low with AD, M.Robinson and hopefully D.Jordan but K.Knox absolutely has to get better on defense and put the damn effort in which i saw none of last year. That actually scares me about him because if you're a rookie that showing to be very inconsistent on offense then you would think that rookie would put a ton of effort in on defense and he didn't.

[DOT]

AD doesn't shoot good enough? I'm pretty sure he's a pretty damn good shooting big man.

He's a good shooter for a big. That doesn't mean he's a good shooter comparatively

33% from 3 isn't gonna give Mitch enough space on PnRs, and Mitch just can't shoot at all so an AD PnR is just gonna get stuffed right away

It could work, but that's why I say it'd be janky

Well AD is a big and for a big he shoots pretty damn good and lets not count Mitch out from being a decent shooting big man so soon since we haven't even seen yet if he can or can't shoot. Don't know why they didn't let him shoot since we were a bad team anyway. Why not let him shoot from wherever on the court just to see if he has a chance at becoming a good or decent shooter? He says he's gonna work on his shooting and shoot more next year so i'm excited to see if he can or not.

AD is a big, but he'd be playing the 4, and the 4 isn't played by bigs any more, it's played by wings. And AD is not a good shooter for a wing, I don't see what you're not getting here

And I will count out Mitch from being a decent shooter next year cause he hasn't shown he can shoot in game. High school mixtapes are one thing, and pretty much any player can hit 3s at a decent rate in an empty gym, but until I see him consistently hit shots in game, I'm gonna count him out. I'm not talking about 4 or 5 years down the line, I'm talking about next year

[Clyde Frazier]

I would either go for AD or the young players, Beal would be far and away my last option, no half measures, either rebuild or go for the big 3 and rings

In case it wasn't clear, the big 3 would be kyrie OR kemba, KD and beal with mitch staying.

[newyorker4ever]

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What say you? I voted Beal and Mitch. Really think Mitch is that special and a core 4 of Kyrie or Kemba, Beal, Durant and Mitch would be insane.

I Think I’d rather have a core 4 of Mitch,KD, RJ and Jimmy Butler.

I'd be good with that but i would need a R.Rubio or T.Rozier or P.Beverley or a trade for M.Conley to play PG.