Free agency and trade ideas: Which wings do we go after this summer?

[WeekapaugGroove]

Holiday probably isn't getting traded but I found this interesting considering we all like him as the PG target.

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[BobbieL]

Holiday probably isn't getting traded but I found this interesting considering we all like him as the PG target.

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Pelton is very good. Interesting thought on Jrue. They probably are thinking PG too

Is Payton a possibility for the Suns? Or not enough shooting in his game still

[King4Day]

I know Jones stated he wants to find a PG in his prime (or FA's in their prime). I think he was referring to Kemba and maybe PatBev.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I know Jones stated he wants to find a PG in his prime (or FA's in their prime). I think he was referring to Kemba and maybe PatBev.

Beverly I can see( if we can find a way to clear more space to out bid Dallas)???

But how could we afford Kemba, without making major moves to increase salary space??? Also with the consideration that Dallas is going to be chasing him as well.

[VCfor3]

Holiday probably isn't getting traded but I found this interesting considering we all like him as the PG target.

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Pelton is very good. Interesting thought on Jrue. They probably are thinking PG too

Is Payton a possibility for the Suns? Or not enough shooting in his game still

I think Jrue prefers to play SG so they may be looking for a PG to pair with him. I know they'd be hesitant to move Jrue but I can't see them turning down a very solid rebuilding package to add to Zion and the AD haul.

[Waylay13]

Holiday probably isn't getting traded but I found this interesting considering we all like him as the PG target.

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Pelton is very good. Interesting thought on Jrue. They probably are thinking PG too

Is Payton a possibility for the Suns? Or not enough shooting in his game still

I would rather stay with Tyler Johnson then bring back Payton. I am not saying he was bad but I saw some good stuff form TJ when he was on the court on the defensive end. I really like the havoc that we were creating with Tyler, Kelly, Jackson, and/or Bridges on the floor.

[Ghost of Kleine]

PHX in: Conley, Anderson, #25
PHX out: 2020 PHX 1st (Top 4 protected, convey MIL pick instead if doesn't convey), 2022 PHX 1st (Top 10 protected, immediately becomes 2022 & 2023 2nds), Warren, Johnson, Jackson/#32?

MEM in: 2020 PHX 1st, 2022 PHX 1st, Johnson, Jackson/#32?, Turner, 2022 POR 2nd
MEM out: Conley, Anderson

POR in: Warren
POR out: Turner, #25, 2022 2nd

Conley and Anderson would fill your holes at PG and PF. At 25 Pheonix can hopefully grab Williams that a few of you are high on and at 6 you can take Garland/White as your PG of the future. Josh Jackson and/or #32 being included is debatable. Portland saves money and gets a decent player. If #32 isn't included maybe you can get a backup C and use the room exception for a backup SG. You'd have a legit shot at making the playoffs though it will never be easy in the West. If you win the lottery next year you keep your pick and if for some reason things go bad and you aren't great in 2022 you keep the pick as a sort of safety net. Heck there is a chance you could get Conley, Anderson, and a late first and ultimately only send out the late MIL 1st and a couple 2nds plus Warren/filler.

Conley, Garland/White, Melton
Booker
Bridges, Oubre
Anderson, Williams
Ayton

Whilst I do like the idea of what Conley would bring to our young player's overall advancement, as well as his statistical contribution, and the likelihood that he could help us fight for the playoffs better too.

I'm not overly fond of giving up a 2020 pick with only top 4 protection in a much deeper and more talented draft ( due to the now flattened lottery odds).

And also having to take back Anderson's 4 years at 8 million per negates any value in sending Jackson out, as currently, Jackson's numbers are better, and his contract is cheaper, and has less years.


We'd quite subtly be giving up too much value in this trade honestly man. Change the 2020 protection to top 8.

And take out Anderson( So we can maintain a reasonable amount of cap space for this summer, and then I'd most likely do it.

But then again, For my part at least, I love the idea of the effect that Conley would have towards the advancement of both our young players and team overall.

But I just don't see Jones considering it for anything more than maybe Warren/Johnson/ the Milwaukee pick and possibly a 2020 top 8-10 protected pick at the most.

[King4Day]

Hypothetical question.

Let's say we dealt for Anthony Davis. In doing so, we give up Ayton, Jackson, Warren, and this years pick.

Roster:

Johnson
Booker
Oubre
Bridges
Davis

Disregarding the bench or who we find at PG, could you see this lineup causing more damage than the Pels ever did with Davis? I've never seen them play with a scorer like Booker. Seems we'd have some solid defense and length.
How do you see a team with that starting 5 panning out?

[Ghost of Kleine]

Holiday probably isn't getting traded but I found this interesting considering we all like him as the PG target.

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Pelton is very good. Interesting thought on Jrue. They probably are thinking PG too

Is Payton a possibility for the Suns? Or not enough shooting in his game still

I would rather stay with Tyler Johnson then bring back Payton. I am not saying he was bad but I saw some good stuff form TJ when he was on the court on the defensive end. I really like the havoc that we were creating with Tyler, Kelly, Jackson, and/or Bridges on the floor.

If we stay with Johnson, I'd obviously still prefer to find a trade to move either Warren or Jackson or PREFERABLY both, Then we could make a more aggressive offer to Beverly or Collison.

That would really good backcourt depth for sure. And we'd still have the csp space to reasonably pursue a veteran 4 too possibly.

[VCfor3]

PHX in: Conley, Anderson, #25
PHX out: 2020 PHX 1st (Top 4 protected, convey MIL pick instead if doesn't convey), 2022 PHX 1st (Top 10 protected, immediately becomes 2022 & 2023 2nds), Warren, Johnson, Jackson/#32?

MEM in: 2020 PHX 1st, 2022 PHX 1st, Johnson, Jackson/#32?, Turner, 2022 POR 2nd
MEM out: Conley, Anderson

POR in: Warren
POR out: Turner, #25, 2022 2nd

Conley and Anderson would fill your holes at PG and PF. At 25 Pheonix can hopefully grab Williams that a few of you are high on and at 6 you can take Garland/White as your PG of the future. Josh Jackson and/or #32 being included is debatable. Portland saves money and gets a decent player. If #32 isn't included maybe you can get a backup C and use the room exception for a backup SG. You'd have a legit shot at making the playoffs though it will never be easy in the West. If you win the lottery next year you keep your pick and if for some reason things go bad and you aren't great in 2022 you keep the pick as a sort of safety net. Heck there is a chance you could get Conley, Anderson, and a late first and ultimately only send out the late MIL 1st and a couple 2nds plus Warren/filler.

Conley, Garland/White, Melton
Booker
Bridges, Oubre
Anderson, Williams
Ayton

Whilst I do like the idea of what Conley would bring to our young player's overall advancement, as well as his statistical contribution, and the likelihood that he could help us fight for the playoffs better too.

I'm not overly fond of giving up a 2020 pick with only top 4 protection in a much deeper and more talented draft ( due to the now flattened lottery odds).

And also having to take back Anderson's 4 years at 8 million per negates any value in sending Jackson out, as currently, Jackson's numbers are better, and his contract is cheaper, and has less years.


We'd quite subtly be giving up too much value in this trade honestly man. Change the 2020 protection to top 8.

And take out Anderson( So we can maintain a reasonable amount of cap space for this summer, and then I'd most likely do it.

But then again, For my part at least, I love the idea of the effect that Conley would have towards the advancement of both our young players and team overall.

But I just don't see Jones considering it for anything more than maybe Warren/Johnson/ the Milwaukee pick and possibly a 2020 top 8-10 protected pick at the most.

Honestly changing the protections to Top 8 isn't a big deal since I think you guys will be outside the bottom 10. As far as Anderson goes, Memphis would prefer to keep him but I was just trying to add value. I saw him as a young vet who could give you guys a defensive boost. He was one of Memphis's best defenders last year almost always guarding the opposing team's best player and actually was a decent secondary playmaker when given a chance though that isn't as important for you guys.

I'd be cool with Warren/Johnson/MIL 1st/2020 Top8-10 protected 1st for Conley.

[King4Day]

https://www.sbnation.com/2019/5/17/18629456/anthony-davis-trade-rumors-phoenix-suns-devin-booker-mind-blown

[Kerrsed]

PHX in: Conley, Anderson, #25
PHX out: 2020 PHX 1st (Top 4 protected, convey MIL pick instead if doesn't convey), 2022 PHX 1st (Top 10 protected, immediately becomes 2022 & 2023 2nds), Warren, Johnson, Jackson/#32?

MEM in: 2020 PHX 1st, 2022 PHX 1st, Johnson, Jackson/#32?, Turner, 2022 POR 2nd
MEM out: Conley, Anderson

POR in: Warren
POR out: Turner, #25, 2022 2nd

Conley and Anderson would fill your holes at PG and PF. At 25 Pheonix can hopefully grab Williams that a few of you are high on and at 6 you can take Garland/White as your PG of the future. Josh Jackson and/or #32 being included is debatable. Portland saves money and gets a decent player. If #32 isn't included maybe you can get a backup C and use the room exception for a backup SG. You'd have a legit shot at making the playoffs though it will never be easy in the West. If you win the lottery next year you keep your pick and if for some reason things go bad and you aren't great in 2022 you keep the pick as a sort of safety net. Heck there is a chance you could get Conley, Anderson, and a late first and ultimately only send out the late MIL 1st and a couple 2nds plus Warren/filler.

Conley, Garland/White, Melton
Booker
Bridges, Oubre
Anderson, Williams
Ayton

Yeah, there is NO WAY we give up anything close to that. Thats absurd! Why would we give up that much when Memphis was willing to take much much much less from Utah just months ago?

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So Utah was willing to give up their 1st and 2nd in THIS draft (Remember, Utah was already play-off bound, so it would have been a NON-LOTTO pick along with a late 2nd), and a handful of crap players on expiring contracts. Memphis wanted Exum to be thrown in and they were willing to do it, and Utah said, "Nah bro, thats too much". Exum. He isnt that good of a player and Utah knew that was too much.

Now all of a sudden Memphis wants 2 future 1sts from the Suns (Who havent missed the lotto in 10+ seasons) along with a very very solid TJ Warren, a huge expiring in Johnson, and a struggling youngster who has shown potential in bursts in Jackson (Still better than Exum).....while also getting saddled with 3 seasons of "Too-Slow-Mo-For-The-NBA" Anderson and a 2nd round pick in like 3 years?

EASY PASS.

EASY!

[Sreister]

https://www.sbnation.com/2019/5/17/18629456/anthony-davis-trade-rumors-phoenix-suns-devin-booker-mind-blown

Man I don't know. We get so thin after a trade of Ayton, Warren, JJ, and #6.

TJ/Okobo, Melton
Book/
Bridges/
Oubre/Bender?
Davis/Holmes

That's a very thin roster, and Ayton can end up being maybe what, 85% of what AD can be, plus obviously whatever else we give up. PLUS, unless we get a promise from AD that he'll stay. It's such a huge risk, and I don't think it works in our favor. More of a spinning the wheels team unless we can swing a starting Caliber PG from somewhere.

[VCfor3]

PHX in: Conley, Anderson, #25
PHX out: 2020 PHX 1st (Top 4 protected, convey MIL pick instead if doesn't convey), 2022 PHX 1st (Top 10 protected, immediately becomes 2022 & 2023 2nds), Warren, Johnson, Jackson/#32?

MEM in: 2020 PHX 1st, 2022 PHX 1st, Johnson, Jackson/#32?, Turner, 2022 POR 2nd
MEM out: Conley, Anderson

POR in: Warren
POR out: Turner, #25, 2022 2nd

Conley and Anderson would fill your holes at PG and PF. At 25 Pheonix can hopefully grab Williams that a few of you are high on and at 6 you can take Garland/White as your PG of the future. Josh Jackson and/or #32 being included is debatable. Portland saves money and gets a decent player. If #32 isn't included maybe you can get a backup C and use the room exception for a backup SG. You'd have a legit shot at making the playoffs though it will never be easy in the West. If you win the lottery next year you keep your pick and if for some reason things go bad and you aren't great in 2022 you keep the pick as a sort of safety net. Heck there is a chance you could get Conley, Anderson, and a late first and ultimately only send out the late MIL 1st and a couple 2nds plus Warren/filler.

Conley, Garland/White, Melton
Booker
Bridges, Oubre
Anderson, Williams
Ayton

Yeah, there is NO WAY we give up anything close to that. Thats absurd! Why would we give up that much when Memphis was willing to take much much much less from Utah just months ago?

Read on Twitter

So Utah was willing to give up their 1st and 2nd in THIS draft (Remember, Utah was already play-off bound, so it would have been a NON-LOTTO pick along with a late 2nd), and a handful of crap players on expiring contracts. Memphis wanted Exum to be thrown in and they were willing to do it, and Utah said, "Nah bro, thats too much". Exum. He isnt that good of a player and Utah knew that was too much.

Now all of a sudden Memphis wants 2 future 1sts from the Suns (Who havent missed the lotto in 10+ seasons) along with a very very solid TJ Warren, a huge expiring in Johnson, and a struggling youngster who has shown potential in bursts in Jackson (Still better than Exum).....while also getting saddled with 3 seasons of "Too-Slow-Mo-For-The-NBA" Anderson and a 2nd round pick in like 3 years?

EASY PASS.

EASY!

They never said which 2nd. It was 2019 1st plus a 2nd. Also there was speculation that Memphis wanted Exum instead of Favor or Rubio as well as the second 1st. Not just Exum+1st+2nd+Rubio/Favors.

[jcsunsfan]

PHX in: Conley, Anderson, #25
PHX out: 2020 PHX 1st (Top 4 protected, convey MIL pick instead if doesn't convey), 2022 PHX 1st (Top 10 protected, immediately becomes 2022 & 2023 2nds), Warren, Johnson, Jackson/#32?

MEM in: 2020 PHX 1st, 2022 PHX 1st, Johnson, Jackson/#32?, Turner, 2022 POR 2nd
MEM out: Conley, Anderson

POR in: Warren
POR out: Turner, #25, 2022 2nd

Conley and Anderson would fill your holes at PG and PF. At 25 Pheonix can hopefully grab Williams that a few of you are high on and at 6 you can take Garland/White as your PG of the future. Josh Jackson and/or #32 being included is debatable. Portland saves money and gets a decent player. If #32 isn't included maybe you can get a backup C and use the room exception for a backup SG. You'd have a legit shot at making the playoffs though it will never be easy in the West. If you win the lottery next year you keep your pick and if for some reason things go bad and you aren't great in 2022 you keep the pick as a sort of safety net. Heck there is a chance you could get Conley, Anderson, and a late first and ultimately only send out the late MIL 1st and a couple 2nds plus Warren/filler.

Conley, Garland/White, Melton
Booker
Bridges, Oubre
Anderson, Williams
Ayton

Yeah, there is NO WAY we give up anything close to that. Thats absurd! Why would we give up that much when Memphis was willing to take much much much less from Utah just months ago?

Read on Twitter

So Utah was willing to give up their 1st and 2nd in THIS draft (Remember, Utah was already play-off bound, so it would have been a NON-LOTTO pick along with a late 2nd), and a handful of crap players on expiring contracts. Memphis wanted Exum to be thrown in and they were willing to do it, and Utah said, "Nah bro, thats too much". Exum. He isnt that good of a player and Utah knew that was too much.

Now all of a sudden Memphis wants 2 future 1sts from the Suns (Who havent missed the lotto in 10+ seasons) along with a very very solid TJ Warren, a huge expiring in Johnson, and a struggling youngster who has shown potential in bursts in Jackson (Still better than Exum).....while also getting saddled with 3 seasons of "Too-Slow-Mo-For-The-NBA" Anderson and a 2nd round pick in like 3 years?

EASY PASS.

EASY!

Conley''s contract is greater than his value. They have to take back bad contracts to move him.

[jcsunsfan]

https://www.sbnation.com/2019/5/17/18629456/anthony-davis-trade-rumors-phoenix-suns-devin-booker-mind-blown

Man I don't know. We get so thin after a trade of Ayton, Warren, JJ, and #6.

TJ/Okobo, Melton
Book/
Bridges/
Oubre/Bender?
Davis/Holmes

That's a very thin roster, and Ayton can end up being maybe what, 85% of what AD can be, plus obviously whatever else we give up. PLUS, unless we get a promise from AD that he'll stay. It's such a huge risk, and I don't think it works in our favor. More of a spinning the wheels team unless we can swing a starting Caliber PG from somewhere.

Whoever trades for Davis is trading for one year of him. You are not trading for a player, you are trading for a contract. Its just not worth the risk. Davis is going to get moved for much less than we think unless it is to the Knicks or Lakers. Those are the only two teams with good assurances of resigning him.

[Ghost of Kleine]

PHX in: Conley, Anderson, #25
PHX out: 2020 PHX 1st (Top 4 protected, convey MIL pick instead if doesn't convey), 2022 PHX 1st (Top 10 protected, immediately becomes 2022 & 2023 2nds), Warren, Johnson, Jackson/#32?

MEM in: 2020 PHX 1st, 2022 PHX 1st, Johnson, Jackson/#32?, Turner, 2022 POR 2nd
MEM out: Conley, Anderson

POR in: Warren
POR out: Turner, #25, 2022 2nd

Conley and Anderson would fill your holes at PG and PF. At 25 Pheonix can hopefully grab Williams that a few of you are high on and at 6 you can take Garland/White as your PG of the future. Josh Jackson and/or #32 being included is debatable. Portland saves money and gets a decent player. If #32 isn't included maybe you can get a backup C and use the room exception for a backup SG. You'd have a legit shot at making the playoffs though it will never be easy in the West. If you win the lottery next year you keep your pick and if for some reason things go bad and you aren't great in 2022 you keep the pick as a sort of safety net. Heck there is a chance you could get Conley, Anderson, and a late first and ultimately only send out the late MIL 1st and a couple 2nds plus Warren/filler.

Conley, Garland/White, Melton
Booker
Bridges, Oubre
Anderson, Williams
Ayton

Whilst I do like the idea of what Conley would bring to our young player's overall advancement, as well as his statistical contribution, and the likelihood that he could help us fight for the playoffs better too.

I'm not overly fond of giving up a 2020 pick with only top 4 protection in a much deeper and more talented draft ( due to the now flattened lottery odds).

And also having to take back Anderson's 4 years at 8 million per negates any value in sending Jackson out, as currently, Jackson's numbers are better, and his contract is cheaper, and has less years.


We'd quite subtly be giving up too much value in this trade honestly man. Change the 2020 protection to top 8.

And take out Anderson( So we can maintain a reasonable amount of cap space for this summer, and then I'd most likely do it.

But then again, For my part at least, I love the idea of the effect that Conley would have towards the advancement of both our young players and team overall.

But I just don't see Jones considering it for anything more than maybe Warren/Johnson/ the Milwaukee pick and possibly a 2020 top 8-10 protected pick at the most.

Honestly changing the protections to Top 8 isn't a big deal since I think you guys will be outside the bottom 10. As far as Anderson goes, Memphis would prefer to keep him but I was just trying to add value. I saw him as a young vet who could give you guys a defensive boost. He was one of Memphis's best defenders last year almost always guarding the opposing team's best player and actually was a decent secondary playmaker when given a chance though that isn't as important for you guys.

I'd be cool with Warren/Johnson/MIL 1st/2020 Top8-10 protected 1st for Conley.

I'd be down with that too man! Honestly.....

[King4Day]

https://www.sbnation.com/2019/5/17/18629456/anthony-davis-trade-rumors-phoenix-suns-devin-booker-mind-blown

Man I don't know. We get so thin after a trade of Ayton, Warren, JJ, and #6.

TJ/Okobo, Melton
Book/
Bridges/
Oubre/Bender?
Davis/Holmes

That's a very thin roster, and Ayton can end up being maybe what, 85% of what AD can be, plus obviously whatever else we give up. PLUS, unless we get a promise from AD that he'll stay. It's such a huge risk, and I don't think it works in our favor. More of a spinning the wheels team unless we can swing a starting Caliber PG from somewhere.

I wouldn't trade anything more than Ayton and the 6 if I were to make a move for him unless he gave full commitment. WIthout it, Ayton is too much to gamble.

[VCfor3]

Spoiler:

Whilst I do like the idea of what Conley would bring to our young player's overall advancement, as well as his statistical contribution, and the likelihood that he could help us fight for the playoffs better too.

I'm not overly fond of giving up a 2020 pick with only top 4 protection in a much deeper and more talented draft ( due to the now flattened lottery odds).

And also having to take back Anderson's 4 years at 8 million per negates any value in sending Jackson out, as currently, Jackson's numbers are better, and his contract is cheaper, and has less years.


We'd quite subtly be giving up too much value in this trade honestly man. Change the 2020 protection to top 8.

And take out Anderson( So we can maintain a reasonable amount of cap space for this summer, and then I'd most likely do it.

But then again, For my part at least, I love the idea of the effect that Conley would have towards the advancement of both our young players and team overall.

But I just don't see Jones considering it for anything more than maybe Warren/Johnson/ the Milwaukee pick and possibly a 2020 top 8-10 protected pick at the most.

Honestly changing the protections to Top 8 isn't a big deal since I think you guys will be outside the bottom 10. As far as Anderson goes, Memphis would prefer to keep him but I was just trying to add value. I saw him as a young vet who could give you guys a defensive boost. He was one of Memphis's best defenders last year almost always guarding the opposing team's best player and actually was a decent secondary playmaker when given a chance though that isn't as important for you guys.

I'd be cool with Warren/Johnson/MIL 1st/2020 Top8-10 protected 1st for Conley.

I'd be down with that too man! Honestly.....

Just to keep things easier to compare, let's say Warren is moved to Portland like in my original deal. The difference between the two deals is 2019 #25, 2020 MIL 1st, Anderson vs 2022 PHX 1st (Top 10 protected then two 2nds). I feel like that is likely an okay tradeoff for Memphis and PHX gets to make sure they keep their 2022 pick.

I feel like PHX will make an offer even though some of you guys don't want Conley but it will be Johnson+MIL 1st(+maybe Warren and/or Jackson). How much further they would be willing to go is a toss up.

EDIT: Also I had originally said Top 4 since that covers the possibility of you guys barely missing the playoffs and moving up in the lottery. If you don't move up in the lottery, you guys *should* be good enough to convey a late lottery or non-lottery pick. Though Memphis of course would argue to have the smallest protection possible, Top 8 protection is extremely reasonable and easy to sell to the fan base.

[Waylay13]

https://www.sbnation.com/2019/5/17/18629456/anthony-davis-trade-rumors-phoenix-suns-devin-booker-mind-blown

I am always amazed at how dumb the media believe that the Suns must be. There is no way you would give up that type of talent without already having his name on the extension knowing the feeling this team has for Rich Paul.