Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[newyorker4ever]

Anyone know how many times he went to the basket with the ball to the right side in that whole video clip? Pretty sure it was zero so that will be something NBA players and coaches will pick up on real quick so he definitely needs to put that at the top of his list of things he needs to work on if we draft him and keep him.

He used his right hand in driving, he went right, uses the right well in crossovers and even finished with his right hand multiple times in that video so the only thing that is zero here is your credibility. You lose, good day sir......

So just so you know you weren't supposed to watch this video like your avatar with your hands covering your eyes so please try again without your hands over your eyes smart guy. SMDH. FOH.....Gotta go....

When you uncover your eyes you should also very slowly read my post again where i very clearly asked how many times he finished to the right side of the basket....again read it slow......just because you obviously have reading problems to go with your other problems....

Go look at some of his scouting reports. Here's one:

Barrett's game is all about beating his man and forcing help to come and for his to realize his potential as a slasher he'll need to improve going to his right. Most of his game flows to his dominant left hand, and while that's enough in a lot of situations, if he's going to take the next step he'll have to improve going to his right as well as finishing with his off-hand at the rim. His ball handling could also use work and improving his off-hand confidence would really help.

[stuporman]

Anyone know how many times he went to the basket with the ball to the right side in that whole video clip? Pretty sure it was zero so that will be something NBA players and coaches will pick up on real quick so he definitely needs to put that at the top of his list of things he needs to work on if we draft him and keep him.

He used his right hand in driving, he went right, uses the right well in crossovers and even finished with his right hand multiple times in that video so the only thing that is zero here is your credibility. You lose, good day sir......

So just so you know you weren't supposed to watch this video like your avatar with your hands covering your eyes so please try again without your hands over your eyes smart guy. SMDH. FOH.....Gotta go....

When you uncover your eyes you should also very slowly read my post again where i very clearly asked how many times he finished to the right side of the basket....again read it slow......just because you obviously have reading problems to go with your other problems....

Well, there were different times when he separately used his right hand when driving, he went right past his defender, he used his right hand to finish and he finished to the right of the basket but under your strict requirements to satisfy some peculiar point @1:20 he went right, finished to the right of the basket and with used his right hand to finish.

Now go make me a sammich.

[Br00kLyn]

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Steve Mills and Scott Perry are going to get a statue if they pull all of this off

They are in a position the knicks have probably never been in. Loads of cap space, some young talent, and a chance to draft a potential franchise player. Depending how everything plays out they either get a statue or pink slips lol

[Marty McFly]

RJ’s raw stats coming out of duke are quite similar to Penny’s coming out of Memphis too.

[stuporman]

He used his right hand in driving, he went right, uses the right well in crossovers and even finished with his right hand multiple times in that video so the only thing that is zero here is your credibility. You lose, good day sir......

So just so you know you weren't supposed to watch this video like your avatar with your hands covering your eyes so please try again without your hands over your eyes smart guy. SMDH. FOH.....Gotta go....

When you uncover your eyes you should also very slowly read my post again where i very clearly asked how many times he finished to the right side of the basket....again read it slow......just because you obviously have reading problems to go with your other problems....

Go look at some of his scouting reports. Here's one:

Barrett's game is all about beating his man and forcing help to come and for his to realize his potential as a slasher he'll need to improve going to his right. Most of his game flows to his dominant left hand, and while that's enough in a lot of situations, if he's going to take the next step he'll have to improve going to his right as well as finishing with his off-hand at the rim. His ball handling could also use work and improving his off-hand confidence would really help.

So your quoting yourself and talking to yourself now? ...and you think I got problems...both of you go make me a sammich

[newyorker4ever]

:lol: "They f*cked up the whole NBA. The whole entire NBA f*cked up!" -Jada

Joe is a real one, too.

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Man i felt this

I'm hardly ever the kind to feel confident about good things happening for my teams, especially the Knicks, but after the Cavs got that 5th pick and we were the only team left with a 14% chance i was feeling real good and then......well first that stupid long azz commercial break but after that the Lakers got the 4th i was feeling like no way we don't get this first pick and then it happened....................................................................

[Jeff Van Gully]

If we still want to rebuild/develop our young guys, we could still sign KD n Kemba (Kyrie not so much in that regard) to get them needed playoff experience and tutelage. I wouldn’t mind that either if we’re competitive and still get to watch the young guys grow. I doubt that happens tho, but..

Kemba/DSJr
Dotson/Trier
Barrett/Frank
Durant/Knox
Mitch/Vonleh or DJ

...would be kinda fun

Is that a championship team though??

Im not so sure.

you also don't have trier or dotson. one gotta go to sign 2 max.

[King of Canada]

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Steve Mills and Scott Perry are going to get a statue if they pull all of this off

They are in a position the knicks have probably never been in. Loads of cap space, some young talent, and a chance to draft a potential franchise player. Depending how everything plays out they either get a statue or pink slips lol

Taking RJ would be the safe thing at this point. Take the top rated guy that's left, and if you strike out in FA just KIM. I wouldn't be mad at all with that, and with all of that cap space we'd be sure to nab some great talent whenever we want. I think the only thing they could screw up right now is trading the pick to drop down and take guys that don't pan out, and/or signing second tier talent if they strike out on KD (or trading for AD and then not signing anybody, which isn't going to happen if the AD trade happened).

[newyorker4ever]

He used his right hand in driving, he went right, uses the right well in crossovers and even finished with his right hand multiple times in that video so the only thing that is zero here is your credibility. You lose, good day sir......

So just so you know you weren't supposed to watch this video like your avatar with your hands covering your eyes so please try again without your hands over your eyes smart guy. SMDH. FOH.....Gotta go....

When you uncover your eyes you should also very slowly read my post again where i very clearly asked how many times he finished to the right side of the basket....again read it slow......just because you obviously have reading problems to go with your other problems....

Well, there were different times when he separately used his right hand when driving, he went right past his defender, he used his right hand to finish and he finished to the right of the basket but under your strict requirements to satisfy some peculiar point @1:20 he went right, finished to the right of the basket and with used his right hand to finish.

Now go make me a sammich.

Now i see why your name is stupidman. I feel bad for you. It's very obvious that going to his right is something he needs to work on but you just keep being you stupidman...

[newyorker4ever]

So just so you know you weren't supposed to watch this video like your avatar with your hands covering your eyes so please try again without your hands over your eyes smart guy. SMDH. FOH.....Gotta go....

When you uncover your eyes you should also very slowly read my post again where i very clearly asked how many times he finished to the right side of the basket....again read it slow......just because you obviously have reading problems to go with your other problems....

Go look at some of his scouting reports. Here's one:

Barrett's game is all about beating his man and forcing help to come and for his to realize his potential as a slasher he'll need to improve going to his right. Most of his game flows to his dominant left hand, and while that's enough in a lot of situations, if he's going to take the next step he'll have to improve going to his right as well as finishing with his off-hand at the rim. His ball handling could also use work and improving his off-hand confidence would really help.

So your quoting yourself and talking to yourself now? ...and you think I got problems...both of you go make me a sammich

That was from this article in the part about his weaknesses. I'm done letting you troll me.

Weaknesses

There is much to like about the things Barrett brings on offence but he's also got some issues particularly when it comes to his shot selection and decision making.

He unnecessarily forced the issue in a lot of circumstances this past year and ended up putting up a lot of inefficient shots, particularly of the pull-up midrange jumper variety. While the pull-up jump shot is in his arsenal and will have value as an option in late-clock scenarios, he went to it early and often and that often resulted in a lot of bad shots and empty possessions.

As an example of his inefficiency, he averaged the identical amount of points per game as his teammate Zion Williamson (22.6) but he did it on 18.5 field goal attempts versus Williamson's 13.2. While his 4.3 assists per game showed his vision, his 3.2 turnovers showed how he often played out of control.

A lot of value Barrett brings offensively comes from work with the ball in his hands but as a secondary option playing without the rock, he isn't anywhere near as much of a threat. He shot a ton of threes, 6.2 per game to be exact, and only hit them at a 30.8% clip which is extremely concerning especially considering the low trajectory and inconsistent spin on those attempts. His jump shot is going to need reworking and the amount of his game predicated on volume shooting from the midrange could scare off some front offices. To suggest he's going to be a good scorer from anywhere other than around the hoop is to suggest he's going to start hitting shots he wasn't hitting in college and that could be a tough sell for some scouts.

Barrett's game is all about beating his man and forcing help to come and for his to realize his potential as a slasher he'll need to improve going to his right. Most of his game flows to his dominant left hand, and while that's enough in a lot of situations, if he's going to take the next step he'll have to improve going to his right as well as finishing with his off-hand at the rim. His ball handling could also use work and improving his off-hand confidence would really help.

With as high of a ceiling as it gets, Barrett definitely has some star potential, but he's a player that needs the ball in his hands to be effective and if teams don't see him as someone who can dominate with the ball he might fall down their big boards.

[Capn'O]

I'm having a hard time dedicating any time at all to scouting picks this year because we're probably trading the pick, and I got #1 overall in BAF, so I don't even need to scout

[King of Canada]

Combine covg just starting on NBA TV

[smw6230]

If the report is true, and there have been more than one saying they don't want to trade him to the Lakers, it's really just the Knicks and Boston who would make a push for him. Or the Pelicans refuse to trade him which also seems unlikely

And this has LONG been my issue. The Knicks are bidding against themselves.

NO was never going to trade AD to the Lakers. Gail Benson HATES LA. Not only because of the alleged tampering but she ALSO owns the NO Saints and they got royally boned by the LA Rams in the playoffs. Gail was still wailing about that last week.

Boston - He ain't resigning there. HE most certainly ain't resigning there w/o Kyrie and/or Tatum.

Gail Benson's hatred for LA is such that a 50+1 offer sends AD to NYC. Zero need to offer everything when you're the only option.

If LA isn't an option. And Boston may not be a serious player, who exactly are the Knicks competing against?

[Day_Man]

funny that Reddish is the only one with no votes..

[shtolky]

If the report is true, and there have been more than one saying they don't want to trade him to the Lakers, it's really just the Knicks and Boston who would make a push for him. Or the Pelicans refuse to trade him which also seems unlikely

And this has LONG been my issue. The Knicks are bidding against themselves.

NO was never going to trade AD to the Lakers. Gail Benson HATES LA. Not only because of the alleged tampering but she ALSO owns the NO Saints and they got royally boned by the LA Rams in the playoffs. Gail was still wailing about that last week.

Boston - He ain't resigning there. HE most certainly ain't resigning there w/o Kyrie and/or Tatum.

Gail Benson's hatred for LA is such that a 50+1 offer sends AD to NYC. Zero need to offer everything when you're the only option.

If LA isn't an option. And Boston may not be a serious player, who exactly are the Knicks competing against?

You're making two assumptions though.

Ainge seems like a crazy person and could easily try for AD regardless of his intentions to sign or the Kyrie situation. We have the picks, they have the players. If they include Tatum, Brown, the Memphis pick, and a couple of their picks this year, they probably win.

Also, let's say we are the only legit option. It's possible Perry knows this and is firm that Mitch isn't in the deal, or the Dallas pick. Bidding against yourself can go both ways, it's up to the GM to not overplay his hand.

So if LA is in fact out, that's good news (assuming of course Perry doesn't offer the farm).

[robillionaire]

If the report is true, and there have been more than one saying they don't want to trade him to the Lakers, it's really just the Knicks and Boston who would make a push for him. Or the Pelicans refuse to trade him which also seems unlikely

And this has LONG been my issue. The Knicks are bidding against themselves.

NO was never going to trade AD to the Lakers. Gail Benson HATES LA. Not only because of the alleged tampering but she ALSO owns the NO Saints and they got royally boned by the LA Rams in the playoffs. Gail was still wailing about that last week.

Boston - He ain't resigning there. HE most certainly ain't resigning there w/o Kyrie and/or Tatum.

Gail Benson's hatred for LA is such that a 50+1 offer sends AD to NYC. Zero need to offer everything when you're the only option.

If LA isn't an option. And Boston may not be a serious player, who exactly are the Knicks competing against?

Well this is all speculation, we don’t even know if the Knicks have made them any kind of offer or even intend to make them an offer. Perry might play hardball

[spree8]

If we still want to rebuild/develop our young guys, we could still sign KD n Kemba (Kyrie not so much in that regard) to get them needed playoff experience and tutelage. I wouldn’t mind that either if we’re competitive and still get to watch the young guys grow. I doubt that happens tho, but..

Kemba/DSJr
Dotson/Trier
Barrett/Frank
Durant/Knox
Mitch/Vonleh or DJ

...would be kinda fun

Is that a championship team though??

Im not so sure.

you also don't have trier or dotson. one gotta go to sign 2 max.

Really? I didn’t work out the numbers, but that’d be easy for me... keep Dotson, sign a vet like Thabo for the min.

[stuporman]

So just so you know you weren't supposed to watch this video like your avatar with your hands covering your eyes so please try again without your hands over your eyes smart guy. SMDH. FOH.....Gotta go....

When you uncover your eyes you should also very slowly read my post again where i very clearly asked how many times he finished to the right side of the basket....again read it slow......just because you obviously have reading problems to go with your other problems....

Well, there were different times when he separately used his right hand when driving, he went right past his defender, he used his right hand to finish and he finished to the right of the basket but under your strict requirements to satisfy some peculiar point @1:20 he went right, finished to the right of the basket and with used his right hand to finish.

Now go make me a sammich.

Now i see why your name is stupidman. I feel bad for you. It's very obvious that going to his right is something he needs to work on but you just keep being you stupidman...

You mad cause you got exposed.

Sure, he predominantly goes left, uses his left and finishes on the left with his left so would need to improve on that to be effective at the next level. But even in the video you provided, that you asked about and claiming was "zero" had actual instances he used his right, went right, finished to the right and with his right.

So, no... it wasn't "zero". Keep coming back to argue a inane point you obviously are wrong about and this 'stupidman' will keep making you look foolish.

[Triple C]

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[stuporman]

Go look at some of his scouting reports. Here's one:

Barrett's game is all about beating his man and forcing help to come and for his to realize his potential as a slasher he'll need to improve going to his right. Most of his game flows to his dominant left hand, and while that's enough in a lot of situations, if he's going to take the next step he'll have to improve going to his right as well as finishing with his off-hand at the rim. His ball handling could also use work and improving his off-hand confidence would really help.

So your quoting yourself and talking to yourself now? ...and you think I got problems...both of you go make me a sammich

That was from this article in the part about his weaknesses. I'm done letting you troll me.

Weaknesses

There is much to like about the things Barrett brings on offence but he's also got some issues particularly when it comes to his shot selection and decision making.

He unnecessarily forced the issue in a lot of circumstances this past year and ended up putting up a lot of inefficient shots, particularly of the pull-up midrange jumper variety. While the pull-up jump shot is in his arsenal and will have value as an option in late-clock scenarios, he went to it early and often and that often resulted in a lot of bad shots and empty possessions.

As an example of his inefficiency, he averaged the identical amount of points per game as his teammate Zion Williamson (22.6) but he did it on 18.5 field goal attempts versus Williamson's 13.2. While his 4.3 assists per game showed his vision, his 3.2 turnovers showed how he often played out of control.

A lot of value Barrett brings offensively comes from work with the ball in his hands but as a secondary option playing without the rock, he isn't anywhere near as much of a threat. He shot a ton of threes, 6.2 per game to be exact, and only hit them at a 30.8% clip which is extremely concerning especially considering the low trajectory and inconsistent spin on those attempts. His jump shot is going to need reworking and the amount of his game predicated on volume shooting from the midrange could scare off some front offices. To suggest he's going to be a good scorer from anywhere other than around the hoop is to suggest he's going to start hitting shots he wasn't hitting in college and that could be a tough sell for some scouts.

Barrett's game is all about beating his man and forcing help to come and for his to realize his potential as a slasher he'll need to improve going to his right. Most of his game flows to his dominant left hand, and while that's enough in a lot of situations, if he's going to take the next step he'll have to improve going to his right as well as finishing with his off-hand at the rim. His ball handling could also use work and improving his off-hand confidence would really help.

With as high of a ceiling as it gets, Barrett definitely has some star potential, but he's a player that needs the ball in his hands to be effective and if teams don't see him as someone who can dominate with the ball he might fall down their big boards.

You trolled yourself, I just brought it to your attention.....