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Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

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RJ
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Cam
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Garland
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Culver
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Other
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Trade Down
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1161 » by Worst_to_First » Sun May 19, 2019 2:11 am

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Hellz yes i'd want more then that 2022 pick to give up #3.


What the Cavs owe the Hawks in 2020 is Top 10 protected. I wonder if we could construct the deal wherein the Cavs’ pick would otherwise go to us or wherein they would return us the favor and do the swap provided both of our picks fall in the lottery.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1162 » by awy » Sun May 19, 2019 2:36 am

rj would be ahead of knox and sexton in last year's draft. sga should go ahead of him too. probably top 5 in most years tho since last year was deep. just don't think he'll have an easy off-ball transition.

very curious to see reddish athleticism numbers. it's pretty bad on court.

kpjr has a weird no dribble free throw routine. if he can fix that free throw percentage he would have pretty nice looking three level scoring ability. need to drive to the rim more given his athleticism and good finishing percentage. too many pull up long 2's, need to make those 3's.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1163 » by Polk377 » Sun May 19, 2019 2:36 am

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Don't get caught up on numbers in an analogy, especially since it has nothing to do with the actual players.

The point was, we were hoping to win the grand prize and we didn't. People have a right to be disappointed.


Depends on how you look at. Most years RJ would be the grand prize. This kid is exceptionally talented. His game will translate better to the NBA, especially if he has shooters around him spacing the floor which Duke severely lacked with Cam bricking everything.We are doing just fine.


You're missing the point.

Again, I'm not doubting the players. I'm only saying KNICKS fans are not clowns for being disappointed they didn't get the #1 pick -- WHOEVER that player turns out to be.


Its fine to be disappointed but taking it to the level guys like Stephen A Smith have been is ridiculous. The way this lottery turned out, we are lucky to have the 3rd pick.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1164 » by Worst_to_First » Sun May 19, 2019 2:37 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Been hyping him up since last summer. If the Knicks decided to trade down for him I wouldn’t even be mad. Dude is a nasty scorer


Earlier in the season I couldn’t bring myself to get enamored with Culver as I believe lower ranked guys like KPJr and Langford were the ones with abilities that could translate to the NBA.

Culver’s lack of burst on top of his inconsistent shooting worries me in terms of his potential to be a great player in the league.

Culver reminds me of Frank. I would not trade down for him. I’ll be pretty mad if we did.

How do you feel about RJ still? He is growing on me a little bit. He is still a very flawed player but I am starting to see some star potential in him. His FIBA tape makes him look like a god


Have been spending the last couple of days trying to acclimatize myself to RJ. LOL it is easier to do so than when we drafted Frank over DSJ wherein I went into full delusion mode and convinced myself that Frank gives me Kawhi vibes.

RJ is a great player and I saw how he dominated in FIBA in giving Canada that gold medal in the under-19 world tournament. That guy has that drive and a winner’s mentality.

The challenge with me is that I still approach things as if we are still in rebuild mode. Hard to predict things with uncertainties surrounding KD and Kyrie and I still think they end up elsewhere (I think Mills already knows what’s up).

So for me DSJ is still in the roster and I am not optimistic of his fit with RJ. Both guys are more effective with the ball in their hands given their scoring and playmaking skills and would benefit from having as much shooters around them as possible.

Aside from potentially jersey number complications LOL I think their overlapping strengths and lack of complementary skills for each other could be a problem in terms of maximizing the lineup on the floor.

Needless to say I like DSJ but if RJ is our guy moving forward we may have to find a different PG to pair up with him. If we are sticking with DSJ I won’t mind trading down this draft in exchange for a better position to get the top prospects in the 2020 draft class.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1165 » by Knick4Real » Sun May 19, 2019 3:26 am

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Depends on how you look at. Most years RJ would be the grand prize. This kid is exceptionally talented. His game will translate better to the NBA, especially if he has shooters around him spacing the floor which Duke severely lacked with Cam bricking everything.We are doing just fine.


You're missing the point.

Again, I'm not doubting the players. I'm only saying KNICKS fans are not clowns for being disappointed they didn't get the #1 pick -- WHOEVER that player turns out to be.


Its fine to be disappointed but taking it to the level guys like Stephen A Smith have been is ridiculous. The way this lottery turned out, we are lucky to have the 3rd pick.


I can't speak for Stephen A or any other fan other than myself. Tiki and Tierney in the video called us "clowns" for being unhappy about not getting the #1 pick. I call that stupid.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1166 » by thebuzzardman » Sun May 19, 2019 3:28 am

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Thugger HBC wrote:That would make some sense. they seem to really like Trier and Dotson. If you can get a pick for Frank, that's a plus as well.


If they trade DSJr, which seems to be necessary to get AD, who is the backup PG? Kadeem Allen? I mean, he played well, but wouldn't the Knicks want to retain a backup PG with a little more upside?


Frank is not a PG. He dont have the handling, agressive, leadership skills, emotional control to be a PG. His vision and passing are good but overrated. He could be a good wing.


He can defend PG better than the other PG's, except maybe Kadeem, who let's call equal. There are reasons the team might retain him, even on a KD etc squad. There are reasons they would trade him.

I'd agree the FO has shown signs they'll probably trade him. Add all the different factors together, and trading him for a low first pick seems likely - it frees up money, still brings back an asset. It's a way of recouping a pick if picks to to the Pels; or to even add to the deal instead of another - based on timing.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1167 » by Fat » Sun May 19, 2019 3:32 am

Just take RJ
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1168 » by Marty McFly » Sun May 19, 2019 3:36 am

FatboyRealPetty wrote:Just take RJ

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Post#1169 » by Newyorknick94 » Sun May 19, 2019 3:50 am

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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1170 » by Richard4444 » Sun May 19, 2019 4:11 am

HEZI wrote:Sounds like the Hawks are locked in on Cam Reddish


It is the most probable scenario.

It is 90% locked: 1) Zion, 2) Ja, 3) RJ

LA and Cleveland already have point guards in Lonzo and Sexton. They should pick wings. Besides, Culver and Hunter are the most hyped players besides Zion/Ja/RJ.

Phoenix and Bulls needs PGs. Almost locked in Garland and Coby if avaliable.

Besides, it could even work better for Atlanta if Lakers or Cavs picks Cam and leaves them Hunter or Culver at 8 spot.
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Post#1171 » by F N 11 » Sun May 19, 2019 4:14 am



RJ a natural leader/Alpha

Zion humble

Cam shy than a mf
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1172 » by Richard4444 » Sun May 19, 2019 4:15 am

F N 11 wrote:Are we sleeping on Trier?


Maybe. If we cant make 2M in extra cap space by june 20, he walks.

I think we will trade Frank at draft night.
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Post#1173 » by F N 11 » Sun May 19, 2019 4:22 am

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Post#1174 » by malik959 » Sun May 19, 2019 4:24 am

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This video is stupid!

I don't know many fans who were actually bashing RJ the player or whoever lands at #3. The "tripping" came from us never getting a break for so long and getting SO CLOSE to finally being in the driver's seat (with #1) only to get disappointed yet again.

Sure, the #3 pick is still good and way better than #5 or anywhere else we could have landed. However, if I had a chance to win a $100 million grand prize but ended up only winning 3rd place with $1 million, of course, $1 million is still very good and better than nothing -- but I'm still gonna be disappointed I didn't win the grand prize. It's only natural.

To call fans "clowns" for being disappointed and not jumping for joy over the #3 pick as quick as some were able to do is stupid.

$1 Million? Oh hell naw, more like $75 mil. RJ actually has more skill than Zion, Zion is just a Athletic freak of nature. People talk about RJ not being able to shoot, well Zion can't shoot past three feet. I was an RJ > Zion stan half the season and felt that Coach K was making him the #1 option for a reason. Coach K was putting the ball in RJ's hands and allowing him to run the team.


Don't get caught up on numbers in an analogy, especially since it has nothing to do with the actual players.

The point was, we were hoping to win the grand prize and we didn't. People have a right to be disappointed.


Oh I know bro and I understand why people were upset, but I'm sorry if my company came to me and said hey you have a 14% of becoming CEO of our company (I work for AT&T) or 12.7% chance of becoming a supervisor do you think I should be excited?
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1175 » by Richard4444 » Sun May 19, 2019 4:25 am

I am curious. If we had won the 2pick, Ja would won the poll? Would be more chalenge to fit him along Dennis and Max PG and NO could value RJ more.

Maybe it was better picked the 3pick instead the 2pick. Same player for less salary.

I think it is almost indiferent. Ja looks a bit better. But RJ has better fit in the team.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1176 » by malik959 » Sun May 19, 2019 4:26 am

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malik959 wrote: $1 Million? Oh hell naw, more like $75 mil. RJ actually has more skill than Zion, Zion is just a Athletic freak of nature. People talk about RJ not being able to shoot, well Zion can't shoot past three feet. I was an RJ > Zion stan half the season and felt that Coach K was making him the #1 option for a reason. Coach K was putting the ball in RJ's hands and allowing him to run the team.


Don't get caught up on numbers in an analogy, especially since it has nothing to do with the actual players.

The point was, we were hoping to win the grand prize and we didn't. People have a right to be disappointed.


Oh I know bro and I understand why people were upset, but I'm sorry if my company came to me and said hey you have a 14% of becoming CEO of our company (I work for AT&T) or 12.7% chance of becoming a supervisor do you think I should be excited?

Also people weren't hoping they were expecting the league to throw us a bone.
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Post#1177 » by Clyde_Style » Sun May 19, 2019 4:28 am

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RJ a natural leader/Alpha

Zion humble

Cam shy than a mf


RJ's going to be a good locker room glue guy
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1178 » by Polk377 » Sun May 19, 2019 5:16 am

malik959 wrote:
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Knick4Real wrote:
Don't get caught up on numbers in an analogy, especially since it has nothing to do with the actual players.

The point was, we were hoping to win the grand prize and we didn't. People have a right to be disappointed.


Oh I know bro and I understand why people were upset, but I'm sorry if my company came to me and said hey you have a 14% of becoming CEO of our company (I work for AT&T) or 12.7% chance of becoming a supervisor do you think I should be excited?

Also people weren't hoping they were expecting the league to throw us a bone.


They did by giving us the 3rd pick. Everyone knew this new lottery system was designed to stop tanking so they made their point with the first 2 picks.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1179 » by Polk377 » Sun May 19, 2019 5:19 am

I didn't know RJ had NY roots until earlier today. Thats cool that both his parents were athletes at St. Johns.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1180 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Sun May 19, 2019 5:28 am

Ain't that tampering?
Like big time tampering??
If true, of course....

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