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2019 NBA Draft Prep

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What direction should Hawks go with their lottery picks?

Sekou Doumbouya
19
18%
Coby White
4
4%
Jaxson Hayes
9
9%
Nassir Little
5
5%
Cam Reddish
35
34%
Bol Bol
14
14%
Brandon Clarke
10
10%
Trade the picks
7
7%
 
Total votes: 103

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3561 » by King Ken » Sun May 19, 2019 4:12 am

Reddish isn't on the Cavs or Suns radar.
The Bulls are looking at him but is rumored to promise one of the PGs. The only team i am worried about is the Lakers but not at 4 but if they trade Ball which I have heard they are against unless they get a superstar or trade in return
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Post#3562 » by kerrypack » Sun May 19, 2019 4:17 am

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Is this a concern?

someone compared him to D.K. Metcalf in the draft board. I laughed out laugh

unc board talks about this a good bit. They think is is a concern, and they do like naz a lot. of course it could be that is just got arrogant and put up those good but not great agility times as a result. (have been drinking. when i say he's been arrogant i mean that he didn't put in the effort to maximize his athletic times.)

that said, the tape seems to say that he didn't have great lateral quickness.

most unc folks say that he is an intellectual kid (for a baskteball player anyways), but that this iq doesn't show up on the court. I'd think that he has the athleticism to play 3 or 4; we'll see if he can put it all together. he does not seem to have the athleticism to be unguardable a la lebron/kobe/jordan; this may seem like an arrogant comment, but people thought he might be there.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3563 » by King Ken » Sun May 19, 2019 5:20 am

kerrypack wrote:
King Ken wrote:
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Is this a concern?

someone compared him to D.K. Metcalf in the draft board. I laughed out laugh

unc board talks about this a good bit. They think is is a concern, and they do like naz a lot. of course it could be that is just got arrogant and put up those good but not great agility times as a result. (have been drinking. when i say he's been arrogant i mean that he didn't put in the effort to maximize his athletic times.)

that said, the tape seems to say that he didn't have great lateral quickness.

most unc folks say that he is an intellectual kid (for a baskteball player anyways), but that this iq doesn't show up on the court. I'd think that he has the athleticism to play 3 or 4; we'll see if he can put it all together. he does not seem to have the athleticism to be unguardable a la lebron/kobe/jordan; this may seem like an arrogant comment, but people thought he might be there.

I personally like the Jaylen Brown comparison. That's who he reminds me of but this draft class is a lot stronger than Jaylen class. After Ingram, the class went straight to tier 4 and it dropped from tier four to tier five around Milwaukee pick. Historically weak draft but it has some role playing gems in it so it wasn't too bad. Buddy Hield as a prospect reminds me of DeAndre Hunter. High floors with lower end ceiling but in the right system, could be special. I don't think that system is ours for Hunter but I am high on him.
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Post#3564 » by Illmatic12 » Sun May 19, 2019 5:54 am

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Illmatic12 wrote:Thanks guys. I guess it really feels like the Hawks have locked in on Reddish for the #8.
I wonder if he kills it in workouts would that push him ahead of a guy like Culver or Hunter? Hmm


To me the Cavs and Bulls are the only realistic threats to take Cam. I believe he's way too raw for the Lakers. I actually believe the Lakers will take De'Andre Hunter since he's the most NBA ready and has a decent three point shot. If the Hawks really like Cam, they may be willing to part with the 10th pick to move to 5. If Travis is willing to do that, then I have to believe that Cam might be special.

I don't recommend that though. If it's the Bulls, we can probably kiss some seconds goodbye to move up and grab him. I'm way more willing to part with seconds to move up a spot to grab Cam. Hopefully, none of this comes to fruition and he's sitting there for the taking. I'm with Supes on this. Cam will not be great with every team, but with the Hawks he can become really good.

For some reason it's harder to see the Bulls taking Reddish (again, unless he absolutely kills it in his workout)
They're paying Otto Porter like $27m as starting SF, it would make more sense to invest in a backcourt player like White

Cavs could definitely be a threat to draft him. We know for a fact they aren't taking Garland or White, so they'll want to come away with one of the wings - Culver/Hunter/Reddish whichever they think has highest upside

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Illmatic12 wrote:Thanks guys. I guess it really feels like the Hawks have locked in on Reddish for the #8.
I wonder if he kills it in workouts would that push him ahead of a guy like Culver or Hunter? Hmm

I would hope that they then go and get him still.

Just listening to the rumors, but they seem to believe he is the best obtainable fit with Trae & Huerter, and surely he is. Great offensive potential mixed with high defensive upside. Seems like the perfect player you put on the wing with them. He doesn't need to be a super star in my opinion. If he can just be star player or push Trae to be 1a/1b, then that would be all we need. Even as a 2nd option, I would call him a success.

Yeah I think Reddish is a good fit with the Hawks because the play fast and get up a lot of threes. He wouldn't be asked to do much else , other than defend his matchups which he should be good at.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3565 » by Worst_to_First » Sun May 19, 2019 7:29 am

Cavs are said to like RJ Barrett a lot and may aggressively pursue a trade with the Knicks. Our FO is said to like Cam Reddish so if the Cavs move up to 3 we might take Cam at 5.

Regardless you guys under this scenario would get either Hunter or Culver which are value picks at 8.
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Post#3566 » by Worst_to_First » Sun May 19, 2019 7:31 am

By the way why more love for Bol Bol than Jaxson Hayes?

I think Hayes is the perfect complement to Collins in the front court.
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Post#3567 » by Ice Trae » Sun May 19, 2019 8:26 am

Cavs may bank on Cam's potential and go for him if Lakers go for Culver instead of Hunter. Hunter seems like too much of a safe pick for the Cavs and they may want to go for someone with more upside. Garland to Suns is a lock in my book and White to the Bulls makes too much sense. I don't see Culver going past the Cavs so it's going to be between Reddish/Hunter at 8 imo
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3568 » by Jamaaliver » Sun May 19, 2019 11:37 am

Illmatic12 wrote:Who are the Hawks expected to target with their two picks?

...has there been any noise about interest in Doumbouya ?



I hope so.

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Post#3569 » by DS5 » Sun May 19, 2019 11:40 am

I don't know if it's been shared here already but fanspeak has a draft simulator for the nba now. I got Reddish, Culver, Bruno, Goga, Luka on my first try. Obviously just for fun and very unlikely all those players drop, especially Culver to 10 and Bruno and Goga to the 2nd round.

https://fanspeak.com/nbaotc/
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3570 » by pacehawk » Sun May 19, 2019 12:15 pm

Personally, As disappointed as I was with the Lottery results I will still be very happy with the Hawks Draft if they can get two of the below players AND I will be thrilled if they can get and would select Luka Samanic and Tacko Fall with two of their 2nd Round picks! I know Fall is probably not a real popular choice but with his size I do think he could prove to be very valuable in certain situations and against certain players and in the 2nd Round he would be worth the gamble (Especially, since the Hawks do have 3 2nd Round Picks).

Players (2) I hope the Hawks consider/end up with in the 1st Round: Not listing Williamson, Morant or Barrett for obvious reasons:

DeAndre Hunter
Cameron Redish
Jaxson Hayes
Bol Bol
Jarrett Culver
Ruin Hachimura
Bruno Fernando
Sekou Doumbouya
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Post#3571 » by kerrypack » Sun May 19, 2019 12:31 pm

pacehawk wrote:Personally, As disappointed as I was with the Lottery results I will still be very happy with the Hawks Draft if they can get two of the below players AND I will be thrilled if they can get and would select Luka Samanic and Tacko Fall with two of their 2nd Round picks! I know Fall is probably not a real popular choice but with his size I do think he could prove to be very valuable in certain situations and against certain players and in the 2nd Round he would be worth the gamble (Especially, since the Hawks do have 3 2nd Round Picks).

Players (2) I hope the Hawks consider/end up with in the 1st Round: Not listing Williamson, Morant or Barrett for obvious reasons:

DeAndre Hunter
Cameron Redish
Jaxson Hayes
Bol Bol
Jarrett Culver
Ruin Hachimura
Bruno Fernando
Sekou Doumbouya
i think luka will end up top 15 and bol probably won't. all those guys look good to me, we'll see.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3572 » by High 5 » Sun May 19, 2019 1:26 pm

Worst_to_First wrote:By the way why more love for Bol Bol than Jaxson Hayes?

I think Hayes is the perfect complement to Collins in the front court.


I think the perfect complement to Collins is a center who can shoot first and foremost. He (along with Trae) flourished with the spacing Dedmon and Len provided. So someone who projects to be a more talented floor spacer than both of those guys is very intriguing. I'm definitely not sold on Bol Bol, but I do love the idea of his skill set with that length.
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Post#3573 » by _s_t_u_r_t_ » Sun May 19, 2019 2:07 pm

King Ken wrote:Reddish isn't on the Cavs or Suns radar.
The Bulls are looking at him but is rumored to promise one of the PGs. The only team i am worried about is the Lakers but not at 4 but if they trade Ball which I have heard they are against unless they get a superstar or trade in return


Might want to worry about Boston and Brooklyn trading with someone up ahead of #8.
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Post#3574 » by _s_t_u_r_t_ » Sun May 19, 2019 2:11 pm

Worst_to_First wrote:By the way why more love for Bol Bol than Jaxson Hayes?

I think Hayes is the perfect complement to Collins in the front court.


Schlenk has been very insistent that we're not drafting for positions yet, and that we're still very much in a BPA state. Schlenk has also said he's always evaluating on the basis of shooting, passing and dribbling.

Bol and Fernando are both better at those three things than Hayes.

So, he may seem to outsiders as a fit, but probably not really.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3575 » by observer1995 » Sun May 19, 2019 2:48 pm

_s_t_u_r_t_ wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:By the way why more love for Bol Bol than Jaxson Hayes?

I think Hayes is the perfect complement to Collins in the front court.


Schlenk has been very insistent that we're not drafting for positions yet, and that we're still very much in a BPA state. Schlenk has also said he's always evaluating on the basis of shooting, passing and dribbling.

Bol and Fernando are both better at those three things than Hayes.

So, he may seem to outsiders as a fit, but probably not really.


The Hawks have also shown....exactly 0 interest in Bol so far. (do I need to post those things where the Athletic beat writer mentioned names for the draft that he'd heard with Hawks operations but didn't say Bol, then the other thing was the Hawks had no interest in Bol again?)

Yes, they might be going for BPA, but until the Hawks show interest in Bol, I'd erase him from any potential lists. This is the one case where BPA might be ignored by the Hawks.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3576 » by King Ken » Sun May 19, 2019 4:33 pm

Bol is not a fit for what we do especially on defense. Let's move from the idea of him for now.
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Post#3577 » by observer1995 » Sun May 19, 2019 4:44 pm

Here's another thing from Chris Kirschner shooting down any ideas about Bol again:

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While he also says that the Hawks LOVE Cam Reddish.

(I can't see theathletic articles since I don't pay but I assume that the pick was Bol at #10)
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Post#3578 » by gurpilo » Sun May 19, 2019 4:45 pm

Bol is exactly the player with potential that can flourish on a team like Atlanta. He has already tremendous tools, if he can develop his weaknesses he could be really really special. I don't know why some people just delete him from the list. Elite shooting, length and shot blocking, good handling and passing, need to improve on intensity strength and mobility, that can be done.
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Post#3579 » by zimpy27 » Sun May 19, 2019 4:47 pm

Would Hawks swap there 8 and 10 picks to the Lakers for there pick 4?

#4 means you get Culver.
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Post#3580 » by gurpilo » Sun May 19, 2019 5:09 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Would Hawks swap there 8 and 10 picks to the Lakers for there pick 4?

#4 means you get Culver.


I would not do it, 4-14th pick is pretty much same value.

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