Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[GONYK]

Lol just read an article Cavs would trade 5 and 26 for 3. Not nearly enough...

I'll trade them DSJ, Frank and the #3 pick for C.Sexton, #5 and #26.

Maybe just one of DSJ or Frank but would probably do both.

Then i draft RJ Hunter at #5.

Sexton is trash though.

DSJ is the best player in the trade and the #26 pick does not cover the distance between Barret and Hunter.

[awy]

tell tge cavs to love rj more. 5+26 isnt enough love

[alphad0gz]

FWIW, when Zion was out those 6 games, RJ's numbers were: 26.2/8.2/5.2 on 49.5% shooting. If he would have shot well from the FT line, he'd have been close to 30 ppg. He stepped up when needed....not many can or do to that level. He was also the only real threat and he still did that. Remarkable.

[Deeeez Knicks]

RJ is one of our best chips in an AD or another star trade so trading doesn't really make sense unless we are ruling that out.

Even if we do rule out a trade, RJ still probably makes the most sense

[F N 11]

Kyrie, KD, RJ, KK, And MR for the chip

[F N 11]

FWIW, when Zion was out those 6 games, RJ's numbers were: 26.2/8.2/5.2 on 49.5% shooting. If he would have shot well from the FT line, he'd have been close to 30 ppg. He stepped up when needed....not many can or do to that level. He was also the only real threat and he still did that. Remarkable.

Shh before the Grizzlies wake up

[newyorker4ever]

Lol just read an article Cavs would trade 5 and 26 for 3. Not nearly enough...

I'll trade them DSJ, Frank and the #3 pick for C.Sexton, #5 and #26.

Maybe just one of DSJ or Frank but would probably do both.

Then i draft RJ Hunter at #5.

Sexton is trash though.

DSJ is the best player in the trade and the #26 pick does not cover the distance between Barret and Hunter.

Hahahaha that's pretty funny....wait a minute....are you serious?

I love D.Hunter and think he'll be really good and feel the same about D.Garland.

[newyorker4ever]

Oh my goodness, now this. A handshake deal between KD and the Knicks.

https://clutchpoints.com/knicks-rumors-new-york-kevin-durant-had-secret-meeting-reached-handshake-deal/

[King of Canada]

I hope these rumours of us trading down go away. It’s likely just the same old NY media spin for clicks but god damn is it frustrating. Barrett is clearly the guy at the very least for trade value and beyond that as a piece to a slow rebuild.

[GONYK]

I'll trade them DSJ, Frank and the #3 pick for C.Sexton, #5 and #26.

Maybe just one of DSJ or Frank but would probably do both.

Then i draft RJ Hunter at #5.

Sexton is trash though.

DSJ is the best player in the trade and the #26 pick does not cover the distance between Barret and Hunter.

Hahahaha that's pretty funny....wait a minute....are you serious?

I love D.Hunter and think he'll be really good and feel the same about D.Garland.

Yes, on both counts.

I don't even like DSJ, but Colin was barely an NBA player for most of last season. What has Sexton done to prove otherwise?

[stuporman]

The recipe for creating a competitive team in the NBA and one that has the highest upside as far as playoff success is built with a balance on both sides of the ball. The time when constructing a roster using players with a high level of one skill or on one side of the ball and not much else is long gone.

This doesn't mean every player has to be a two way monster but if those on a 1 to 10 scale are 8 or better on both sides of the ball we want to see as many players as can be assembled over 5 on both sides. Players with 7-2 splits are less likely to contribute to a winning team than a 5-5 one.

Obviously you want players with an elite skill in one aspect or side of the ball so players with potential 8-5 splits are going to really elevate a team. Although, the game has evolved to a point where players with 2 or 3 on one side of the ball are too much of a liability and limits the upside of a team.

Look at the Warriors, up and down that roster from stars to role players it's 5-5 or better. That's what makes them such a dominant dynasty and as elite as individual players from other teams are in one skill or side their teams can't beat the Warrior in the playoffs.

Knicks need more 5-5 and better players because they don't have many. Although, it's difficult to recognize if these young 18-20 year old guys can round out their game because quite often they aren't asked to do so in HS or college. The best indicator I have seen is their instincts because those can be honed and refined into useful skill.

Obviously rating a player on a 1 to 10 scale is a subjective assessment but this was just an illustration to get a point across. One trick pony players no matter how good they are in one skill or side are becoming less useful and effective in building a winning playoff team.

[HEZI]

I hope these rumours of us trading down go away. It’s likely just the same old NY media spin for clicks but god damn is it frustrating. Barrett is clearly the guy at the very least for trade value and beyond that as a piece to a slow rebuild.

Well there are some whispers of us being high on Reddish also so take that for what it's worth

[HEZI]

Sexton is trash though.

DSJ is the best player in the trade and the #26 pick does not cover the distance between Barret and Hunter.

Hahahaha that's pretty funny....wait a minute....are you serious?

I love D.Hunter and think he'll be really good and feel the same about D.Garland.

Yes, on both counts.

I don't even like DSJ, but Colin was barely an NBA player for most of last season. What has Sexton done to prove otherwise?

Not that high on Sexton either but he had a very solid rookie campaign. Yeah he got outshined by the other rookies like Doncic and Trae and JJJ but Sexton still showed he is indeed an NBA player, no doubt about it. The Cavs stink, yeah sure, but Knicks stunk even more and other teams stunk just as bad as the Cavs so we can't hold that against him.

16.7 PPG
43% FG
40% 3 Point on 3.6 attempts a game
3 assists
3 rebounds

That's pretty solid. If anything he is a 6th man on a good team but he can also be a contributor as a starter on a good team if the right pieces are around him.

[newyorker4ever]

Sexton is trash though.

DSJ is the best player in the trade and the #26 pick does not cover the distance between Barret and Hunter.

Hahahaha that's pretty funny....wait a minute....are you serious?

I love D.Hunter and think he'll be really good and feel the same about D.Garland.

Yes, on both counts.

I don't even like DSJ, but Colin was barely an NBA player for most of last season. What has Sexton done to prove otherwise?

He definitely started out the season bad and i even remember rumors of teammates saying he was a bust or some shyt like that but he also got better as the season went on and had a good 2nd half which for a rookie i have no problem with him starting out bad or average and of course getting better the more he adjusted to the NBA game. He also plays defense and i'm always on here talking about how we have to have good/great defenders if we're gonna be a good/great team no matter who we get in free agency and/or trade for. For me if i'm choosing out of the two of Sexton and DSJ to be our starting PG i'm going with Sexton. I don't think it's a huge difference in the two but i do think Sexton will be the better player.

[Context]

My gut says Barrett is going to become an all star...But the more I read about him the more I want to keep him- even with KD...
we need to forget this AD stuff...Too much to give to get him- even if we keep Mitch...KD and KYRIE- are just going to have to realize if you want to put a chip team together in a short amount of time that can beat the bucks- they are going to have to take a pay cut. Period...Time for them to put their GM cap on- plain and simple...

[newyorker4ever]

Hahahaha that's pretty funny....wait a minute....are you serious?

I love D.Hunter and think he'll be really good and feel the same about D.Garland.

Yes, on both counts.

I don't even like DSJ, but Colin was barely an NBA player for most of last season. What has Sexton done to prove otherwise?

Not that high on Sexton either but he had a very solid rookie campaign. Yeah he got outshined by the other rookies like Doncic and Trae and JJJ but Sexton still showed he is indeed an NBA player, no doubt about it. The Cavs stink, yeah sure, but Knicks stunk even more and other teams stunk just as bad as the Cavs so we can't hold that against him.

16.7 PPG
43% FG
40% 3 Point on 3.6 attempts a game
3 assists
3 rebounds

That's pretty solid. If anything he is a 6th man on a good team but he can also be a contributor as a starter on a good team if the right pieces are around him.

I agree with all but i definitely think he's a starter. It was just his rookie year and he'd probably have much better assist numbers if he had guys he was passing to that could make shots. We will see how he is next year but gotta think he'll be better, not sure how much better the Cavs will be though.

[DowNY]

Lol just read an article Cavs would trade 5 and 26 for 3. Not nearly enough...

I'll trade them DSJ, Frank and the #3 pick for C.Sexton, #5 and #26.

Maybe just one of DSJ or Frank but would probably do both.

Then i draft RJ Hunter at #5.

That’s a horrible trade.
I wouldn’t even take 5 & Sexton for 3 by itself. Cavs are the ones desperate, not the Knicks.

[Richard4444]

Kyrie, KD, RJ, KK, And MR for the chip

Durant never signs with my 2K Knicks...

[Richard4444]

Hahahaha that's pretty funny....wait a minute....are you serious?

I love D.Hunter and think he'll be really good and feel the same about D.Garland.

Yes, on both counts.

I don't even like DSJ, but Colin was barely an NBA player for most of last season. What has Sexton done to prove otherwise?

Not that high on Sexton either but he had a very solid rookie campaign. Yeah he got outshined by the other rookies like Doncic and Trae and JJJ but Sexton still showed he is indeed an NBA player, no doubt about it. The Cavs stink, yeah sure, but Knicks stunk even more and other teams stunk just as bad as the Cavs so we can't hold that against him.

16.7 PPG
43% FG
40% 3 Point on 3.6 attempts a game
3 assists
3 rebounds

That's pretty solid. If anything he is a 6th man on a good team but he can also be a contributor as a starter on a good team if the right pieces are around him.

Sexton will be a great scorer. I dont know if he can be a solid playmaker and defender. He looks like a offensive minded shortsized shooting guard. It is difficult to build a team around him. I prefer Dennis.

[DowNY]

I am curious. If we had won the 2pick, Ja would won the poll? Would be more chalenge to fit him along Dennis and Max PG and NO could value RJ more.

Maybe it was better picked the 3pick instead the 2pick. Same player for less salary.

I think it is almost indiferent. Ja looks a bit better. But RJ has better fit in the team.

That #2 pick and J.Morant is a much easier trade piece then #3 pick and RJ Barrett though because maybe not all but most look at J.Morant as a star in the NBA more then they look at Barrett because he's shown to be that at PG. I don't think it's ever better to get a lower pick. If you wanna keep the pick then it's an easy decision to take Morant and trade DSJ to whoever wants him with the bdest return. Not saying we can't trade the #3 pick and that getting Barrett isn't valuable but not like that #2 pick and Morant. I'd rather draft Morant and sign KD and J.Butler than draft RJ Barrett and sign KD and Kyrie.

There’s no telling if Ja deserves to be picked over RJ. Ja wasn’t even in the top 15 at the start of the NBA season. RJ & Ja swap teams/situations & we might be talking RJ going 2nd. Ja would’ve had to concede to Zion.