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Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

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What Should We Do With It?

RJ
145
74%
Cam
3
2%
Garland
9
5%
Culver
3
2%
Other
1
1%
Trade Down
8
4%
Trade Out Of The Draft
20
10%
Give Up and Follow The Warriors
1
1%
STFU Capn'O
6
3%
 
Total votes: 196

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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1281 » by Thugger HBC » Sun May 19, 2019 5:54 pm

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Trust the process yes!!!!


You seem to be good on the internet with going back and finding things so maybe you can help me out with something i asked on here yesterday and something i think we'd all be very interested to know?

So supposedly the Pels aren't interested in K.Knox so i want to know if that's just them playing with us to get us to up our offer and if they do really like K.Knox, or at least if D.Griffin does. So if i'm correct then D.Griffin was working for like ESPN or NBA TV last year and covering the draft and i'd like to find out what he had to say about K.Knox before the draft and after we drafted him to see if he did like him and think he had good/great upside but i'm not good on the computer and wouldn't know how to even go back and find those videos of what they were all saying about Knox. I think D.Griffin was actually on a panel covering the draft while it was going on and pretty sure it was for NBA TV but not 100 on that.

Here's one link that should help. click the video to the right of the knicks pick. Griffin analysis is the last portion of the video.

https://www.nba.com/draft/2018/board#/
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1282 » by Jay10 » Sun May 19, 2019 6:02 pm

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DrCoach wrote:This is why you can’t rebuild in NY

There is no need to trade Frank.

He’s only 20 and he has a NBA skill, it’s a fantastic defender!

Look at Iggy from GS, he won a game by defending Lilliard

Mitch and Frank give us two long defenders, no need to trade Frank

Especially he can guard 1-3


We cant keep Frank and Trier. One has to go.



Says who, why not?

They are totally Diff players

Because of his contract.

The fans are willing to give up a player that could defend 3 positions for offense. :lol:
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1283 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Sun May 19, 2019 6:04 pm

DrCoach wrote:This is why you can’t rebuild in NY

There is no need to trade Frank.

He’s only 20 and he has a NBA skill, it’s a fantastic defender!

Look at Iggy from GS, he won a game by defending Lilliard

Mitch and Frank give us two long defenders, no need to trade Frank

Especially he can guard 1-3


What’s the sense of keeping him if the front office has no plans to play him? To further torpedo his confidence and value? At least they’re talking FRP cuz next stop is a top 55 protected SRP.

I have no proof but I truly feel he was pouting with the whole groin ordeal. He had no interest in sharing the floor with DSJ. In theory, Frank’s great but can’t be great when your coach has no confidence in playing you. It’s his job to make his way into the conversation.

I honestly don’t even consider him a part of this team anymore.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1284 » by Thugger HBC » Sun May 19, 2019 6:05 pm

Jay10 wrote:
DrCoach wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
We cant keep Frank and Trier. One has to go.



Says who, why not?

They are totally Diff players

Because of his contract.

The fans are willing to give up a player that could defend 3 positions for offense. :lol:

I haven't seen anyone wanting to give up Mitch.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1285 » by DrCoach » Sun May 19, 2019 6:06 pm

Jay10 wrote:
DrCoach wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
We cant keep Frank and Trier. One has to go.



Says who, why not?

They are totally Diff players

Because of his contract.

The fans are willing to give up a player that could defend 3 positions for offense. :lol:


He’s currently 10th highest on payroll and we control his options

I don’t see what the issue with a rookie contract is
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1286 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Sun May 19, 2019 6:07 pm

Jay10 wrote:
DrCoach wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
We cant keep Frank and Trier. One has to go.



Says who, why not?

They are totally Diff players

Because of his contract.

The fans are willing to give up a player that could defend 3 positions for offense. :lol:

What do the fans opinions have to do with anything?
The BOSSES don’t have a use for him. Their actions speak to that. We can’t just change their minds and he certainly hasn’t. I don’t get why y’all keep including this guy in stuff like there’s any possibility we see him in a Knick uni again.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1287 » by N Y K » Sun May 19, 2019 6:08 pm

Three person draft. We draft third. Sounds simple enough to me.

Looking at our roster, how many people would you rather have than RJ?

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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1288 » by DrCoach » Sun May 19, 2019 6:09 pm

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:
DrCoach wrote:This is why you can’t rebuild in NY

There is no need to trade Frank.

He’s only 20 and he has a NBA skill, it’s a fantastic defender!

Look at Iggy from GS, he won a game by defending Lilliard

Mitch and Frank give us two long defenders, no need to trade Frank

Especially he can guard 1-3


What’s the sense of keeping him if the front office has no plans to play him? To further torpedo his confidence and value? At least they’re talking FRP cuz next stop is a top 55 protected SRP.

I have no proof but I truly feel he was pouting with the whole groin ordeal. He had no interest in sharing the floor with DSJ. In theory, Frank’s great but can’t be great when your coach has no confidence in playing you. It’s his job to make his way into the conversation.

I honestly don’t even consider him a part of this team anymore.



Coach plays players, coach likes defenders, his guys is 20 yrs old.

Andre Roberson and Iggy start for playoff teams
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1289 » by F N 11 » Sun May 19, 2019 6:09 pm

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F N 11 wrote:

Trust the process yes!!!!


You seem to be good on the internet with going back and finding things so maybe you can help me out with something i asked on here yesterday and something i think we'd all be very interested to know?

So supposedly the Pels aren't interested in K.Knox so i want to know if that's just them playing with us to get us to up our offer and if they do really like K.Knox, or at least if D.Griffin does. So if i'm correct then D.Griffin was working for like ESPN or NBA TV last year and covering the draft and i'd like to find out what he had to say about K.Knox before the draft and after we drafted him to see if he did like him and think he had good/great upside but i'm not good on the computer and wouldn't know how to even go back and find those videos of what they were all saying about Knox. I think D.Griffin was actually on a panel covering the draft while it was going on and pretty sure it was for NBA TV but not 100 on that.

To be honest I just bump into stuff and post it here. Most I can find is Griff giving Fizdale and Knicks coaching staff props for development after beating the bucks.

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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1290 » by DrCoach » Sun May 19, 2019 6:09 pm

So who do we like with our 55 pick?
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1291 » by SelbyCobra » Sun May 19, 2019 6:10 pm

Context wrote:My gut says Barrett is going to become an all star...But the more I read about him the more I want to keep him- even with KD...
we need to forget this AD stuff...Too much to give to get him- even if we keep Mitch...KD and KYRIE- are just going to have to realize if you want to put a chip team together in a short amount of time that can beat the bucks- they are going to have to take a pay cut. Period...Time for them to put their GM cap on- plain and simple...


I am happy either way honestly. RJ would be fun to follow because he's ready to score NOW and still has lots of potential due to his passing ability and room for shooting improvement, and acquiring AD would also be cool because he's not yet hit his prime and is one of the best players in the league.

I can prefer one over the other depending on the day of the week, but the fun part is that there's very little obvious downside to this summer. Sure, things could go wrong or they could divert from the plan and sign Butler and Kemba to maxes, but the big options on the table are all really enticing - even if you gut the youth for AD.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1292 » by HEZI » Sun May 19, 2019 6:11 pm

DrCoach wrote:So who do we like with our 55 pick?



Tacko Fall aka Zion Stopper
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1293 » by Clyde_Style » Sun May 19, 2019 6:12 pm

DrCoach wrote:So who do we like with our 55 pick?


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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1294 » by Jay10 » Sun May 19, 2019 6:12 pm

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Jay10 wrote:
DrCoach wrote:

Says who, why not?

They are totally Diff players

Because of his contract.

The fans are willing to give up a player that could defend 3 positions for offense. :lol:

I haven't seen anyone wanting to give up Mitch.

Frank makes life easier for everyone around him on the defensive end especially Mitchell.

The Knicks had success a few years ago when they had Iman defending the perimeter and Tyson defending the paint.

You're not going to be successful if you don't have anyone to put up a resistance on the opposing team's backcourt if you choose to have 4 offensive-minded players on the court, and Mitchell having to clean up the mess.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1296 » by Clyde_Style » Sun May 19, 2019 6:14 pm

HEZI wrote:
DrCoach wrote:So who do we like with our 55 pick?



Tacko Fall aka Zion Stopper


Are there any NBA rules that prohibit encasing a player in fly paper?

I mean he's so tall. If he was sticky too he'd be a hell of a rim deterrent..
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1297 » by F N 11 » Sun May 19, 2019 6:17 pm

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Trust the process yes!!!!


You seem to be good on the internet with going back and finding things so maybe you can help me out with something i asked on here yesterday and something i think we'd all be very interested to know?

So supposedly the Pels aren't interested in K.Knox so i want to know if that's just them playing with us to get us to up our offer and if they do really like K.Knox, or at least if D.Griffin does. So if i'm correct then D.Griffin was working for like ESPN or NBA TV last year and covering the draft and i'd like to find out what he had to say about K.Knox before the draft and after we drafted him to see if he did like him and think he had good/great upside but i'm not good on the computer and wouldn't know how to even go back and find those videos of what they were all saying about Knox. I think D.Griffin was actually on a panel covering the draft while it was going on and pretty sure it was for NBA TV but not 100 on that.

Here's one link that should help. click the video to the right of the knicks pick. Griffin analysis is the last portion of the video.

https://www.nba.com/draft/2018/board#/

So weird how the pick on the dumb part of the Knicks fan base for reaction.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1298 » by DowNY » Sun May 19, 2019 6:17 pm

awy wrote:the worst outcome for a rebuilding team is become saddled by a wiggins type contract.

barrett is the perfect storm of ingredients for such a trap.

You worrying bout ish that’s 4+ years down the road. You don’t even know how Barrett will develop and you’re already claiming Wiggins. I can tell you right now, Barrett cares more about the game of basketball now than Wiggins probably ever has during his career.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1299 » by Thugger HBC » Sun May 19, 2019 6:18 pm

Jay10 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Jay10 wrote:Because of his contract.

The fans are willing to give up a player that could defend 3 positions for offense. :lol:

I haven't seen anyone wanting to give up Mitch.

Frank makes life easier for everyone around him on the defensive end especially Mitchell.

The Knicks had success a few years ago when they had Iman defending the perimeter and Tyson defending the paint.

You're not going to be successful if you don't have anyone to put up a resistance on the opposing team's backcourt, if you choose to have 4 offensive-minded players on the court, and Mitchell having to clean up the mess.

I don't see any playoff teams featuring lineups such as this. A player defense doesn't matter much if they cannot be a threat to score.

Even Mitch will have to demonstrate a jumper.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1300 » by Jay10 » Sun May 19, 2019 6:20 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
Jay10 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:I haven't seen anyone wanting to give up Mitch.

Frank makes life easier for everyone around him on the defensive end especially Mitchell.

The Knicks had success a few years ago when they had Iman defending the perimeter and Tyson defending the paint.

You're not going to be successful if you don't have anyone to put up a resistance on the opposing team's backcourt, if you choose to have 4 offensive-minded players on the court, and Mitchell having to clean up the mess.

I don't see any playoff teams featuring lineups such as this. A player defense doesn't matter much if they cannot be a threat to score.

Even Mitch will have to demonstrate a jumper.

Iggy is hiding Steph's weakness against the Trailblazers, and he also did it against the Rockets.

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