Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[Context]

Looks like a rising all star...

I like RJ. If KD wants him I'm all for it. However, I don't wanna get attached yet because KD/Mills/Perry might have other ideas and something else in the works.

I've woken up from my dream and realized its going to take a lot to assemble a team to get past the bucks and warriors...If KD
is coming -he will understand this...Therefore, we cant trade a piece like RJ- we have no choice but to hope he becomes a vital piece in the chip run...

[reub]

Stefan Bondy
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@SBondyNYDN
Sources: Frank Ntilikina dropped his agents at CAA after he wasn't traded at the deadline last season. Plan was to sign with French agent Bouna Ndiaye.

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9:07 AM - May 20, 2019
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Go do your thing Franky. Mf's dont know how to use you ever. You have to get better but not once did they give you a legit chance.

Our front office is Euro racist.

Next they'll trade Jaramaz.

[GONYK]

Looks like a rising all star...

I like RJ. If KD wants him I'm all for it. However, I don't wanna get attached yet because KD/Mills/Perry might have other ideas and something else in the works.

I've woken up from my dream and realized its going to take a lot to assemble a team to get past the bucks and warriors...If KD
is coming -he will understand this...Therefore, we cant trade a piece like RJ- we have no choice but to hope he becomes a vital piece in the chip run...

Unlikely. I don't recall a star ever altering their plans over a rookie. These guys want to win now.

AD and Zion is a perfect example.

[Knicksfan1992]

Stefan Bondy
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@SBondyNYDN
Sources: Frank Ntilikina dropped his agents at CAA after he wasn't traded at the deadline last season. Plan was to sign with French agent Bouna Ndiaye.

88
9:07 AM - May 20, 2019
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Go do your thing Franky. Mf's dont know how to use you ever. You have to get better but not once did they give you a legit chance.

Our front office is Euro racist.

Or... and hear me out here... Frank has been like really bad the majority of the time he's played NBA basketball and a team with KD can not wait for a potential role player to fulfill his potential?

Oh and this opportunity crap... Frank's MPG rank for players in his draft is 17th highest and his games played total is 18th (and that mainly has to do with his own injury woes). He got the same opportunity as anyone else would have and has largely sucked. Just the reality of the situation whether us fans can separate emotions over facts is another story...

[Besart19]

everybody wasting their time thinking about all these other options. kd is coming and the most likely guy he'll want/get to join him is kyrie. that's the deal.....and you'll like it.

My final 17-man roster is:


Kyrie / Frank / Allen
Dotson / Trier / Mario / Jenkins
Barrett / Knox / Vince
KD / TJ or Isaac/ Melo
Mitch / Jordan / Gasol / Kornet

Are you satisfied?!

Just curious, what did you do with DSJ?

Smith and 2nd for Isac or Smith and 1st for Warren

[HarthorneWingo]

Go do your thing Franky. Mf's dont know how to use you ever. You have to get better but not once did they give you a legit chance.

Our front office is Euro racist.

Or... and hear me out here... Frank has been like really bad the majority of the time he's played NBA basketball and a team with KD can not wait for a potential role player to fulfill his potential?

Oh and this opportunity crap... Frank's MPG rank for players in his draft is 17th highest and his games played total is 18th (and that mainly has to do with his own injury woes). He got the same opportunity as anyone else would have and has largely sucked. Just the reality of the situation whether us fans can separate emotions over facts is another story...

I’ll just say it’s too early to know what we have with our youth and leave it at that.

[Context]

I like RJ. If KD wants him I'm all for it. However, I don't wanna get attached yet because KD/Mills/Perry might have other ideas and something else in the works.

I've woken up from my dream and realized its going to take a lot to assemble a team to get past the bucks and warriors...If KD
is coming -he will understand this...Therefore, we cant trade a piece like RJ- we have no choice but to hope he becomes a vital piece in the chip run...

Unlikely. I don't recall a star ever altering their plans over a rookie. These guys want to win now.

AD and Zion is a perfect example.

AD-KD-KYRIE with a bunch of fillers don't get past the bucks...assuming AD and KYRIE make it out of the season healthy...

[GONYK]

I've woken up from my dream and realized its going to take a lot to assemble a team to get past the bucks and warriors...If KD
is coming -he will understand this...Therefore, we cant trade a piece like RJ- we have no choice but to hope he becomes a vital piece in the chip run...

Unlikely. I don't recall a star ever altering their plans over a rookie. These guys want to win now.

AD and Zion is a perfect example.

AD-KD-KYRIE with a bunch of fillers don't get past the bucks...assuming AD and KYRIE make it out of the season healthy...

I don't anticipate that KD thinks a 19 year old will give them a better shot in the next 2-3 years.

[awy]

it's amazing that people think rj will help a team get past the bucks. they'll just let him shoot long jump shots and he can't get past the historic rim protection.

it's basically magical thinking in the specific because of investing too much emotionally into the idea of rebuilding in general.



to get past the bucks you need 2 things, extremely efficient jump shooting on offense, and a dude that can defend giannis. KD gives you 1 and AD is one of the best at 2. it's way beyond what RJ would get you in that series.

[Context]

Unlikely. I don't recall a star ever altering their plans over a rookie. These guys want to win now.

AD and Zion is a perfect example.

AD-KD-KYRIE with a bunch of fillers don't get past the bucks...assuming AD and KYRIE make it out of the season healthy...

I don't anticipate that KD thinks a 19 year old will give them a better shot in the next 2-3 years.

Age is just a number- it all depends on how the kid's game translates to the nba- Mitch is how old? and I could have put him on the Jazz team and several others and he would have made said team better...

[GONYK]

AD-KD-KYRIE with a bunch of fillers don't get past the bucks...assuming AD and KYRIE make it out of the season healthy...

I don't anticipate that KD thinks a 19 year old will give them a better shot in the next 2-3 years.

Age is just a number- it all depends on how the kid's game translates to the nba- Mitch is how old? and I could have put him on the Jazz team and several others and he would have made said team better...

Do you think KD is willing to bet that a rookie will be more effective than Anthony Davis?

Who was better? KD at 19 or KD now?

[Besart19]

I don't anticipate that KD thinks a 19 year old will give them a better shot in the next 2-3 years.

Age is just a number- it all depends on how the kid's game translates to the nba- Mitch is how old? and I could have put him on the Jazz team and several others and he would have made said team better...

Do you think KD is willing to bet that a rookie will be more effective than Anthony Davis?

AD trade should be made in mid season... we dont have enough salaries to match his

[GONYK]

Age is just a number- it all depends on how the kid's game translates to the nba- Mitch is how old? and I could have put him on the Jazz team and several others and he would have made said team better...

Do you think KD is willing to bet that a rookie will be more effective than Anthony Davis?

AD trade should be made in mid season... we dont have enough salaries to match his

Neither AD nor the Pelicans will let this last until the middle of the season.

[shtolky]

I've woken up from my dream and realized its going to take a lot to assemble a team to get past the bucks and warriors...If KD
is coming -he will understand this...Therefore, we cant trade a piece like RJ- we have no choice but to hope he becomes a vital piece in the chip run...

Unlikely. I don't recall a star ever altering their plans over a rookie. These guys want to win now.

AD and Zion is a perfect example.

AD-KD-KYRIE with a bunch of fillers don't get past the bucks...assuming AD and KYRIE make it out of the season healthy...

Definitely disagree on that one. Mirotic will be gone. Same for Lopez. Are they going to max Middleton and pay Brogdon (who also has durability issues) big money? AD and Kyrie are arguably more durable than Bledsoe.

[F N 11]

I better not hear y’all talk about lack of perimeter defense at all Bc y’all was talking chit about the only one that is elite at that. Forever a fan of this kid. Mitch not going to save everybody.

[NoLayupRule]

I like RJ a lot but its important to remember that, with some very small exceptions, rookies and young players dont tilt the table for a team winning a title

its vets that do that

Id be happy with a roster of guys like Frank and Knox and RJ supporting Kyrie and KD but the reality is one Beal or AD is better than all those guys combined when it comes to actual winning

the biggest question mark will be Robinson who seems like a role playing difference maker
and secondly, with a major gap between them, Dotson and Frank

[Knicks Byke]

I better not hear y’all talk about lack of perimeter defense at all Bc y’all was talking chit about the only one that is elite at that. Forever a fan of this kid. Mitch not going to save everybody.

you just don't wanna change your name again.














jk don't shoot.

[whocares1]

I better not hear y’all talk about lack of perimeter defense at all Bc y’all was talking chit about the only one that is elite at that. Forever a fan of this kid. Mitch not going to save everybody.

Or they’ll sign someone that can defend the perimeter AND doesn’t play soft on offense.

[KnixinSix]

I like RJ a lot but its important to remember that, with some very small exceptions, rookies and young players dont tilt the table for a team winning a title

its vets that do that

Id be happy with a roster of guys like Frank and Knox and RJ supporting Kyrie and KD but the reality is one Beal or AD is better than all those guys combined when it comes to actual winning

the biggest question mark will be Robinson who seems like a role playing difference maker
and secondly, with a major gap between them, Dotson and Frank

Great post. Unless its the very rare rookie. The guy isnt coming in as a major contributing piece to a championship. Those are usually the freaks of nature Bron, Shaq or just Super gifted totally polished game. Don't know that Barrett quite fits that instant impact level.

AD is a great pick in this case. As he comes in at 26 entering his peak yeats and is an established NBA do it all top 5 superstar.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Come on, there's young talent here. It's hard to project how far their games will evolve, but guys like DSJ, Knox and Frank I believe to be young talent. There's a reason they were all selected in the middle of the lottery- they're very young teenagers coming into the league that need 3-4+ years to see how their games are evolving.

Why give up on our young lottery guys when they've only had 1-2 seasons in the league? There's the obvious chance that their games don't pan out, but I'd rather roll the dice on seeing if they can continue to improve.

I saw Mudiay go from a career sub 40% shooter to a guy who averaged around 45% from the field this year. If that moron can improve, I have faith our other young guys can if given ample opportunities.

The inverse of that is why wait for those kids to maybe pan out in 3-4 years when you can form an elite trio and spend those same 3 years pursuing NBA titles?

I like the kids. I really do. But the name of the game is championships. Kyrie, KD, and AD put us significantly closer than DSJ, Knox, and Frank.

But the debate is what Kyrie, KD and AD do vs DSJr, Knox, and Frank.

It's what does Kyrie, KD, and AD and Trier? do vs Kyrie, KD, RJ, DSJr, Knox, Frank, Mitch, Trier, all the Knicks own picks moving forward, plus Mavs picks in 2021 and 2023, where some of the players and picks can be moved in along the way for better players.

I get AD the scenario where AD is potentially available right away. I'm just pointing out KD & Kyrie can come and it can be all the youth around them, or half the youth and half moved for player(s) X, not named AD. Even if it takes another season.

but you're getting anthony davis tho. it costs. he's not someone you can expect to get another way. that's a gift horse you probably shouldn't look in the mouth if it's coming to you without having to move mitch.