Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[Context]

I don't anticipate that KD thinks a 19 year old will give them a better shot in the next 2-3 years.

Age is just a number- it all depends on how the kid's game translates to the nba- Mitch is how old? and I could have put him on the Jazz team and several others and he would have made said team better...

Do you think KD is willing to bet that a rookie will be more effective than Anthony Davis?

Who was better? KD at 19 or KD now?

Unfortunately, with the salary cap - if he wants to beat the bucks and Warriors- he will have to realize that it cant get done in two seasons...

[alphad0gz]

We've seen this model work though.

There were GSW fans who complained that they lost too much depth when they had to let players walk for KD.

What did losing Speights, Fezili, Bogut, etc... really matter in the long run?

I agree to a degree, but I'm hesitant to say KD, Kyrie and AD bring the same sort of thing to team that Curry, Klay, Dray and Iggy bring.
Hell, KD is just icing over that.

The Heat a bit better example, maybe.

I would say that a big 3 of KD/KI/AD is better than Miami's 3.

Certainly better balanced.

Nope, and not even close. Prime LeBron is much better than prime Durant. He'll be top 3 all-time when he is done. Wade was much better than Kyrie because he boards and plays defense and was just tougher...a leader. Bosh was not as good as AD but he was very, very good. He was the perfect sidekick for the other 2. Miami by a lot.

[GONYK]

Age is just a number- it all depends on how the kid's game translates to the nba- Mitch is how old? and I could have put him on the Jazz team and several others and he would have made said team better...

Do you think KD is willing to bet that a rookie will be more effective than Anthony Davis?

Who was better? KD at 19 or KD now?

Unfortunately, with the salary cap - if he wants to beat the bucks and Warriors- he will have to realize that if cant get done in two seasons...

We can fit all 3 within the salary cap, so that's not an issue.

He just won a few rings with a top heavy roster. I don't think he is unaware of the risks.

[alphad0gz]

R.J. Barrett reminds me of Carmelo in his last year of school. If I’m not mistaken they shot around the same
Percentage

This dude is the reL deal. Incredible fearless slasher
That nobody on this team can imitate I watched all his tapes and he really attacks the rim with a bully ball attitude. Once he gets that midrange down we have a young Carmelo

We would regret trading this 18 YEAR OLD for AD. I say
no deal

Dsj
RJ
KD
Tobias
Mitch

Nothing like Melo. Melo was bigger, better rebounder, not a slasher, and not an open court terror. He also didn't have much use for defense where Barrett is solid and works it.

[alphad0gz]

I like RJ. If KD wants him I'm all for it. However, I don't wanna get attached yet because KD/Mills/Perry might have other ideas and something else in the works.

I've woken up from my dream and realized its going to take a lot to assemble a team to get past the bucks and warriors...If KD
is coming -he will understand this...Therefore, we cant trade a piece like RJ- we have no choice but to hope he becomes a vital piece in the chip run...

Unlikely. I don't recall a star ever altering their plans over a rookie. These guys want to win now.

AD and Zion is a perfect example.

Ever occur to you that AD just might want out of there, period? He's lost that lovin' feeling.

[Thugger HBC]

Whether a deal happens to bring Davis here or not, he's not staying in NO to play with a rookie.

[god shammgod]

my thing is not ad vs keeping all the youth. it's should we spend all the youth on just ad or can we spend some of it someone else and keep some and actually be better. i'm not sure the answer to that is cut and dry.

[Thugger HBC]

my thing is not ad vs keeping all the youth. it's should we spend all the youth on just ad or can we spend some of it someone else and keep some and actually be better. i'm not sure the answer to that is cut and dry.

I don't see Perry forking it all over. I am curious what was the counter to the Pels not wanting KP.

[nykinoz]

Draft RJ, sign 2 max cats, develop our kids already here.

[F N 11]

I better not hear y’all talk about lack of perimeter defense at all Bc y’all was talking chit about the only one that is elite at that. Forever a fan of this kid. Mitch not going to save everybody.

you just don't wanna change your name again.














jk don't shoot.

Keeping it

[F N 11]

I better not hear y’all talk about lack of perimeter defense at all Bc y’all was talking chit about the only one that is elite at that. Forever a fan of this kid. Mitch not going to save everybody.

Or they’ll sign someone that can defend the perimeter AND doesn’t play soft on offense.

Like who and for how much? I’ll wait

[god shammgod]

my thing is not ad vs keeping all the youth. it's should we spend all the youth on just ad or can we spend some of it someone else and keep some and actually be better. i'm not sure the answer to that is cut and dry.

I don't see Perry forking it all over. I am curious what was the counter to the Pels not wanting KP.

me neither. it would go against everything they've been saying.

[F N 11]

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Yeah good luck seeing this again from a Knick perimeter player.

[GONYK]

I agree to a degree, but I'm hesitant to say KD, Kyrie and AD bring the same sort of thing to team that Curry, Klay, Dray and Iggy bring.
Hell, KD is just icing over that.

The Heat a bit better example, maybe.

I would say that a big 3 of KD/KI/AD is better than Miami's 3.

Certainly better balanced.

Nope, and not even close. Prime LeBron is much better than prime Durant. He'll be top 3 all-time when he is done. Wade was much better than Kyrie because he boards and plays defense and was just tougher...a leader. Bosh was not as good as AD but he was very, very good. He was the perfect sidekick for the other 2. Miami by a lot.

In terms of raw talent, Miami is better. In terms of fit and spacing, KD, Kyrie and AD all have different kill zones and would allow each other to operate on the floor much better than Miami.

LeBron and Wade worked the same space and forced Bosh to the perimeter.

[GONYK]

I've woken up from my dream and realized its going to take a lot to assemble a team to get past the bucks and warriors...If KD
is coming -he will understand this...Therefore, we cant trade a piece like RJ- we have no choice but to hope he becomes a vital piece in the chip run...

Unlikely. I don't recall a star ever altering their plans over a rookie. These guys want to win now.

AD and Zion is a perfect example.

Ever occur to you that AD just might want out of there, period? He's lost that lovin' feeling.

And a talent like Zion isn't changing his mind.

You're proving my point.

[Besart19]

Do you think KD is willing to bet that a rookie will be more effective than Anthony Davis?

AD trade should be made in mid season... we dont have enough salaries to match his

Neither AD nor the Pelicans will let this last until the middle of the season.

Its not like it hasnt happened before!!

Rasheed, Pau Gasol, Melo, Butler,

[N Y K]

Y'all see the weather outside?! Makes me feel thankful for the third pick!!!

[NoLayupRule]

The inverse of that is why wait for those kids to maybe pan out in 3-4 years when you can form an elite trio and spend those same 3 years pursuing NBA titles?

I like the kids. I really do. But the name of the game is championships. Kyrie, KD, and AD put us significantly closer than DSJ, Knox, and Frank.

But the debate is what Kyrie, KD and AD do vs DSJr, Knox, and Frank.

It's what does Kyrie, KD, and AD and Trier? do vs Kyrie, KD, RJ, DSJr, Knox, Frank, Mitch, Trier, all the Knicks own picks moving forward, plus Mavs picks in 2021 and 2023, where some of the players and picks can be moved in along the way for better players.

I get AD the scenario where AD is potentially available right away. I'm just pointing out KD & Kyrie can come and it can be all the youth around them, or half the youth and half moved for player(s) X, not named AD. Even if it takes another season.

but you're getting anthony davis tho. it costs. he's not someone you can expect to get another way. that's a gift horse you probably shouldn't look in the mouth if it's coming to you without having to move mitch.

if you somehow retain mitch in an AD trade then its at the expense of at least one significant pick

the pelicans will ask for Mitch as he is probably our top asset after the #3 pick
if we hold him back it'll cost us significantly
not to suggest it wouldn't be worth it
i doubt we replace him with even dallas' unprotected pick.

but might AD make Robinson redundant to some extent?
Robinson has a chance to be the top shot blocker in the nba. AD has been and probably will be again next year

[GONYK]

But the debate is what Kyrie, KD and AD do vs DSJr, Knox, and Frank.

It's what does Kyrie, KD, and AD and Trier? do vs Kyrie, KD, RJ, DSJr, Knox, Frank, Mitch, Trier, all the Knicks own picks moving forward, plus Mavs picks in 2021 and 2023, where some of the players and picks can be moved in along the way for better players.

I get AD the scenario where AD is potentially available right away. I'm just pointing out KD & Kyrie can come and it can be all the youth around them, or half the youth and half moved for player(s) X, not named AD. Even if it takes another season.

but you're getting anthony davis tho. it costs. he's not someone you can expect to get another way. that's a gift horse you probably shouldn't look in the mouth if it's coming to you without having to move mitch.

if you somehow retain mitch in an AD trade then its at the expense of at least one significant pick

the pelicans will ask for Mitch as he is probably our top asset after the #3 pick
if we hold him back it'll cost us significantly
not to suggest it wouldn't be worth it
i doubt we replace him with even dallas' unprotected pick.

but might AD make Robinson redundant to some extent?
Robinson has a chance to be the top shot blocker in the nba. AD has been and probably will be again next year

If we were to map out the absolute maximum improvement trajectory for Mitch, it would be AD.

I would love to keep Mitch, but if trading him enables us more flexibility and assets to build the team, I would strongly consider moving him

[F N 11]